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SweKenZo
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden82 Posts
February 15 2013 08:43 GMT
#14881
On February 15 2013 17:22 ricepudding wrote:
I have a question about MMR and matchmaking.
I'm currently in gold league. I played three games tonight and won all of them.
The first time, they put me up against a platinum player, and I won. I assumed that Blizzard was going to put me against all platinums until I get promoted, but the next game, I was put against a gold (which is fine), and the game after that, I was up against a silver.

What's up with that?
I thought they only put you against people in lower leagues if they want to demote you or something.


Did you check the silver guys match history?

I bet your MMR is about mid-high gold and was facing a low level plat player (which is kind of the same as high gold) and a high level silver player (which is about mid gold).

When I play ppl on ladder i usually check their recent 5 1v1 games to check what level Blizzard estimates me as.

Gl on ladder tho
Bronze->Silver->Gold->Platinum->Diamond-> ?
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
February 15 2013 08:57 GMT
#14882
On February 15 2013 12:56 dynwar7 wrote:
What is the best way to improve Ghost micro?


maybe there is a challenge like marine split etc?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
ricepudding
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
February 15 2013 13:00 GMT
#14883
On February 15 2013 17:43 SweKenZo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 17:22 ricepudding wrote:
I have a question about MMR and matchmaking.
I'm currently in gold league. I played three games tonight and won all of them.
The first time, they put me up against a platinum player, and I won. I assumed that Blizzard was going to put me against all platinums until I get promoted, but the next game, I was put against a gold (which is fine), and the game after that, I was up against a silver.

What's up with that?
I thought they only put you against people in lower leagues if they want to demote you or something.


Did you check the silver guys match history?

I bet your MMR is about mid-high gold and was facing a low level plat player (which is kind of the same as high gold) and a high level silver player (which is about mid gold).

When I play ppl on ladder i usually check their recent 5 1v1 games to check what level Blizzard estimates me as.

Gl on ladder tho


Thank you :3
But what I don't understand is, after those games, they put me up against someone in bronze? And they keep pairing me up with people in silver even though I honestly think I should be placed in platinum.
I've won every single game tonight, and I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to get into platinum by beating someone in silver.
never say die.
HelioSeven
Profile Joined February 2012
United States193 Posts
February 15 2013 22:03 GMT
#14884
On February 15 2013 22:00 ricepudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 17:43 SweKenZo wrote:
On February 15 2013 17:22 ricepudding wrote:
I have a question about MMR and matchmaking.
I'm currently in gold league. I played three games tonight and won all of them.
The first time, they put me up against a platinum player, and I won. I assumed that Blizzard was going to put me against all platinums until I get promoted, but the next game, I was put against a gold (which is fine), and the game after that, I was up against a silver.

What's up with that?
I thought they only put you against people in lower leagues if they want to demote you or something.


Did you check the silver guys match history?

I bet your MMR is about mid-high gold and was facing a low level plat player (which is kind of the same as high gold) and a high level silver player (which is about mid gold).

When I play ppl on ladder i usually check their recent 5 1v1 games to check what level Blizzard estimates me as.

Gl on ladder tho


Thank you :3
But what I don't understand is, after those games, they put me up against someone in bronze? And they keep pairing me up with people in silver even though I honestly think I should be placed in platinum.
I've won every single game tonight, and I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to get into platinum by beating someone in silver.


Actually you can, and most likely probably will, move into higher league by beating someone of lower MMR than you.

You have to stop thinking about the whole MMR system as quantitative ranks, ie, that someone of rank 25 is better than someone of rank 50, and someone in diamond is better than someone in platinum. What you need to account for is inconsistency: on a bad day a diamond player looks silver quality and on a good day a platinum such as myself can absolutely wreck diamond or master quality players. The MMR system is not concerned about whether you can beat someone of higher rank than you, but whether you can consistently beat a variety of players around your level. Remember that every victory in matchmaking is worth points; victories against weaker opponents are worth less points, and victories against stronger opponents are worth more, but at the end of the day, wins equal +points and losses equal -points. Simple as that.

The other thing is that a few months ago, Blizzard substantially eased the standard deviation of opponent difficulty. That is to say that nowadays the skill range of opponents against which you will be matched is much wider (except at the masters/gm level). As a gold level player, it's now more common to be matched against bronze and diamond players, far outside your own skill level. This, theoretically, exposes you as a player to a more diverse range of skills and strategies, thus forming a more accurate overall picture of your abilities and deficiencies. In theory, anyway.

The point is, beating harder or easier opponents will raise your MMR either way. Beating harder opponents will raise your MMR faster, but not significantly so. If you have a consistently high win rating over your last dozen games or so, your promotion is not far off no matter who the system is matching you against. And ultimately, while beating a bronzie may only yield you a few MMR points, those could be the few points necessary to tip you over into the next league. So yeah, don't focus on who you are being matched against; there is going to be wild variation there, and you have no power over that. Instead just focus on winning consistently, and you will see your promotion before too long.
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 22:36:44
February 15 2013 22:35 GMT
#14885
edit: nvm, was answered better before I got round to actually posting, lol.
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CashewFetus
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2 Posts
February 16 2013 17:39 GMT
#14886
My Question: For units that can attack both ground and air, which weapon will they use versus Colossus?

My hypothesis: It depends on the army that the Colossus is with. If it's Immortal/Sentry/Colossus, a thor (for example) will already be using it's ground weapons. But a queen would do more damage if she used her air attack, so what will she default to?
I win by default, the duel is just a formality.
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
February 16 2013 18:29 GMT
#14887
99% sure they use the one that deals more damage, but this probably ignores armor.
So a thor will use its ground attack, while a queen would use its air attack, and a battlecruiser would use its ground attack.

It has nothing to do with what unit it was attacking previously, or any other units.

I remember reading this somewhere, but I can't find a source to this, sorry!
Getting back into sc2 O_o
CashewFetus
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2 Posts
February 16 2013 19:00 GMT
#14888
Okay, thanks for the reply! The only reason I assumed that was because most units that have ground and air attacks take a second to transition between the two, right? Like the Thor for example: If it's attacking the ground and then targets an air unit, it has to first aim its guns upward (because its air attack has different graphics). The queen likewise has to "transition" between her spine attack and her melee attack. How long do transitions like this take? Is it a negligible amount of time?
I win by default, the duel is just a formality.
Doominator10
Profile Joined August 2012
United States515 Posts
February 16 2013 23:19 GMT
#14889
When doing the moving drop trick with medivacs, dropships, warp prisms, and overlords, is it possible to cancel dropping units without having to go off a cliff or something?
(I mean pressing drop on the transport itself so you can move and drop @ same time.)
Your DOOM has arrived,,,, and is handing out cookies
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
February 17 2013 00:38 GMT
#14890
On February 17 2013 08:19 Doominator10 wrote:
When doing the moving drop trick with medivacs, dropships, warp prisms, and overlords, is it possible to cancel dropping units without having to go off a cliff or something?
(I mean pressing drop on the transport itself so you can move and drop @ same time.)

Pretty sure you have to press S (then obviously hit move again if you're trying to avoid antiair or something)
Getting back into sc2 O_o
speshilK
Profile Joined February 2013
1 Post
February 17 2013 04:42 GMT
#14891
On February 15 2013 08:40 rastaban wrote:
Following Aunvilgod missing persons request, has anyone heard anything about John the Translator? I assume he is still working for Gom but since we never hear anything I wondered if I had missed something.

edit/update
-- I found his twitter account and it looks like he is just working behind the scenes
When asked "How come I don't see you working anymore?"
his response was "a mark of a good house elf is that you never know he is there"

edit/update 2
Here is Fishuu's twitter, you might can ask him there. From the looks of it he might be working on starting a webcomic.
https://twitter.com/fishuuuu



Fishuu is a girl. That is all.
HelioSeven
Profile Joined February 2012
United States193 Posts
February 17 2013 23:28 GMT
#14892
On February 17 2013 09:38 Mavvie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 08:19 Doominator10 wrote:
When doing the moving drop trick with medivacs, dropships, warp prisms, and overlords, is it possible to cancel dropping units without having to go off a cliff or something?
(I mean pressing drop on the transport itself so you can move and drop @ same time.)

Pretty sure you have to press S (then obviously hit move again if you're trying to avoid antiair or something)


To clarify, since not everyone uses default hotkeys, he means Stop command. Which, if you play grid, is E, not S. Also I think the ESC key works as well for both hotkey setups. Not sure about that, though.
If I smite you, have you been smitten?
Grubbegrabbn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden174 Posts
February 19 2013 09:39 GMT
#14893
On February 17 2013 02:39 CashewFetus wrote:
My Question: For units that can attack both ground and air, which weapon will they use versus Colossus?

My hypothesis: It depends on the army that the Colossus is with. If it's Immortal/Sentry/Colossus, a thor (for example) will already be using it's ground weapons. But a queen would do more damage if she used her air attack, so what will she default to?


The Thor will always use its ground attack versus Colossus. The air attack will not be used even if the Colossus is outside ground attack range. However, if you target a flying unit near the Colossus, the Colossus will take damage from the air splash of the Thor AA missilies.
ricepudding
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
February 19 2013 11:36 GMT
#14894
When a high templar uses storm, does it have to storm an area on the ground, or can it storm, say, an area beyond the edge of a cliff?
never say die.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
February 19 2013 12:06 GMT
#14895
On February 19 2013 20:36 ricepudding wrote:
When a high templar uses storm, does it have to storm an area on the ground, or can it storm, say, an area beyond the edge of a cliff?


So long as you have range, you may storm anywhere. So no, it doesn't have to be on an area of the map with ground.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
Doominator10
Profile Joined August 2012
United States515 Posts
February 19 2013 23:07 GMT
#14896
On February 18 2013 08:28 HelioSeven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 09:38 Mavvie wrote:
On February 17 2013 08:19 Doominator10 wrote:
When doing the moving drop trick with medivacs, dropships, warp prisms, and overlords, is it possible to cancel dropping units without having to go off a cliff or something?
(I mean pressing drop on the transport itself so you can move and drop @ same time.)

Pretty sure you have to press S (then obviously hit move again if you're trying to avoid antiair or something)


To clarify, since not everyone uses default hotkeys, he means Stop command. Which, if you play grid, is E, not S. Also I think the ESC key works as well for both hotkey setups. Not sure about that, though.


K will check it out. TY
Your DOOM has arrived,,,, and is handing out cookies
FancYCaT
Profile Joined October 2012
45 Posts
February 20 2013 00:04 GMT
#14897
does someone know how i can set the rotate left / rotate right camera hotkeys to my mousewheel?

if i use my mouswheel sc2 wont accept it as a hotkey even though "enable wheel mouse zoom" in the options is off
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
February 20 2013 01:08 GMT
#14898
Is there a new AI for movement? My marines are staying split while on a move command? o.O
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PeterHuynh
Profile Joined June 2011
United States151 Posts
February 20 2013 03:58 GMT
#14899
is there anyway to prioritize buildings and units over eachother now with this patch? or in hots in that case?
.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
February 20 2013 04:49 GMT
#14900
On February 20 2013 10:08 Zealos wrote:
Is there a new AI for movement? My marines are staying split while on a move command? o.O


I played a ZvZ and a PvZ (I'm random) and I didn't notice, but I wasn't paying attention. Would be amazing if it was true
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