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TheSpectruM
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand33 Posts
February 07 2013 01:49 GMT
#14841
why does the protoss assimilator have 900 health and the protoss nexus have 2000 health while their terran and zerg counterparts have only 500 and 1500 health?
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists." - Midas
ricepudding
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
February 07 2013 05:41 GMT
#14842
On February 07 2013 10:49 TheSpectruM wrote:
why does the protoss assimilator have 900 health and the protoss nexus have 2000 health while their terran and zerg counterparts have only 500 and 1500 health?


Actually, the nexus has 1000 health and 1000 shields.
It make sense because the nexus can always regenerate shields, but once it loses health, it will never be able to be at full health again. You can repair a command centre (which costs minerals, but I'm pretty sure the command centre has +2 armour) and use transfusion on a hatchery (which only requires energy).

Same goes for the assimilator/extractor/refinery.
never say die.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 08:37:48
February 07 2013 08:37 GMT
#14843
Also protoss units are so gas heavy that assimilators are simply more important for protoss, at least at the stage of the game where sniping an assimilator is a big deal.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
former.Marpro
Profile Joined February 2013
United States30 Posts
February 07 2013 19:10 GMT
#14844
For Protoss, how many dark templars can kill a single hatchery in 1 hit?
(former : Marpro.576 now : lllllIlllIl.235)
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
February 07 2013 19:16 GMT
#14845
On February 08 2013 04:10 former.Marpro wrote:
For Protoss, how many dark templars can kill a single hatchery in 1 hit?


You would need around 34~ to one shot a hatchery. It's just not feasible really.
SOURD1ESEL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 02:13:11
February 08 2013 02:12 GMT
#14846
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 10 2013 05:08 GMT
#14847
On February 07 2013 14:41 ricepudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 10:49 TheSpectruM wrote:
why does the protoss assimilator have 900 health and the protoss nexus have 2000 health while their terran and zerg counterparts have only 500 and 1500 health?


Actually, the nexus has 1000 health and 1000 shields.
It make sense because the nexus can always regenerate shields, but once it loses health, it will never be able to be at full health again. You can repair a command centre (which costs minerals, but I'm pretty sure the command centre has +2 armour) and use transfusion on a hatchery (which only requires energy).

Same goes for the assimilator/extractor/refinery.


Also, originally, the nexus was 750/750, but the nexi were getting sniped repeatedly so they buffed protoss in this way. For the assimilator, their isn't really a good explanation except that the broodwar assimilator had 900 health and they didn't change it.
Avendil
Profile Joined February 2013
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 11:23:23
February 10 2013 11:20 GMT
#14848
Anyway, taking in acount the high attak speed of the dark templars, it would be more effective to use a third of them and just kill it in something like 3 shots.

I'd also like to ask: how far do you think a terran can go (I mean to which league can he go) by playing pure mech/mechair style?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
February 10 2013 14:00 GMT
#14849
On February 10 2013 20:20 Avendil wrote:
Anyway, taking in acount the high attak speed of the dark templars, it would be more effective to use a third of them and just kill it in something like 3 shots.

I'd also like to ask: how far do you think a terran can go (I mean to which league can he go) by playing pure mech/mechair style?


Judging by GoOdy, you can go pro.
ricepudding
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
February 11 2013 10:28 GMT
#14850
On February 10 2013 23:00 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 20:20 Avendil wrote:
Anyway, taking in acount the high attak speed of the dark templars, it would be more effective to use a third of them and just kill it in something like 3 shots.

I'd also like to ask: how far do you think a terran can go (I mean to which league can he go) by playing pure mech/mechair style?


Judging by GoOdy, you can go pro.


But it also depends on how well you can macro/use your units.
If you can't micro a banshee for your life, I'd say you can't go pro.
never say die.
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
February 11 2013 18:58 GMT
#14851
Why high level players I see when they try to get a task started right when they have resourses or when another finishes they press the key for that task multiple times instead of just holding the key and releasing when they start a task?
For example when I want to build a worker and I dont have the 50 minerals yet I hold the e bottom (probe) but I see people press repeatedly this bottom instead of holding it. Is it because of BW mechanics? Because I think it causes much more fatigue than just holding the bottom.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
darkphantom
Profile Joined November 2012
98 Posts
February 11 2013 20:03 GMT
#14852
is mech tvz totally viable ?
From the darkness i come
Sianos
Profile Joined April 2011
580 Posts
February 11 2013 20:10 GMT
#14853
On February 12 2013 03:58 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Why high level players I see when they try to get a task started right when they have resourses or when another finishes they press the key for that task multiple times instead of just holding the key and releasing when they start a task?
For example when I want to build a worker and I dont have the 50 minerals yet I hold the e bottom (probe) but I see people press repeatedly this bottom instead of holding it. Is it because of BW mechanics? Because I think it causes much more fatigue than just holding the bottom.


Don´t give a damn about that, it´s just spamming and not a good habit. It´s they same, when people clicking a thousand times on the ground, when they are sending their scouting worker just to have 200 or 300 apm for a while.
FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
February 11 2013 21:04 GMT
#14854
On February 12 2013 05:03 darkphantom wrote:
is mech tvz totally viable ?


Yes very. Typically it getting to the mech stage that is difficult.

Most common methods are:
Reactor Hellion
Hellion drop
Cloak banshee

Those are mean to buy time so you can get your expo and double upgrades goings for your mech army
GinjaNinja.661 EU I'd like to thank my sh*t keyyboard for always messing up my 'Y's
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
February 11 2013 21:30 GMT
#14855
On February 12 2013 05:10 Sianos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 03:58 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Why high level players I see when they try to get a task started right when they have resourses or when another finishes they press the key for that task multiple times instead of just holding the key and releasing when they start a task?
For example when I want to build a worker and I dont have the 50 minerals yet I hold the e bottom (probe) but I see people press repeatedly this bottom instead of holding it. Is it because of BW mechanics? Because I think it causes much more fatigue than just holding the bottom.


Don´t give a damn about that, it´s just spamming and not a good habit. It´s they same, when people clicking a thousand times on the ground, when they are sending their scouting worker just to have 200 or 300 apm for a while.

I know, I used to spam alot myself up until recently that I decided to try to kill all the spam I do, but I wonder why most people I see prefer to press the same bottom 50 times instead of just holding it.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
ThyLastPenguin
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
February 12 2013 07:49 GMT
#14856
On February 12 2013 06:30 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 05:10 Sianos wrote:
On February 12 2013 03:58 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Why high level players I see when they try to get a task started right when they have resourses or when another finishes they press the key for that task multiple times instead of just holding the key and releasing when they start a task?
For example when I want to build a worker and I dont have the 50 minerals yet I hold the e bottom (probe) but I see people press repeatedly this bottom instead of holding it. Is it because of BW mechanics? Because I think it causes much more fatigue than just holding the bottom.


Don´t give a damn about that, it´s just spamming and not a good habit. It´s they same, when people clicking a thousand times on the ground, when they are sending their scouting worker just to have 200 or 300 apm for a while.

I know, I used to spam alot myself up until recently that I decided to try to kill all the spam I do, but I wonder why most people I see prefer to press the same bottom 50 times instead of just holding it.


It might be linked to the whole APM spam argument.
If players spam the button then their hands will be more used to the faster speeds.
"Stephano is pretty much saving SC2 one hidden knife and pedophile joke at a time." - Fionn
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 12 2013 08:37 GMT
#14857
On February 12 2013 16:49 ThyLastPenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 06:30 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
On February 12 2013 05:10 Sianos wrote:
On February 12 2013 03:58 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Why high level players I see when they try to get a task started right when they have resourses or when another finishes they press the key for that task multiple times instead of just holding the key and releasing when they start a task?
For example when I want to build a worker and I dont have the 50 minerals yet I hold the e bottom (probe) but I see people press repeatedly this bottom instead of holding it. Is it because of BW mechanics? Because I think it causes much more fatigue than just holding the bottom.


Don´t give a damn about that, it´s just spamming and not a good habit. It´s they same, when people clicking a thousand times on the ground, when they are sending their scouting worker just to have 200 or 300 apm for a while.

I know, I used to spam alot myself up until recently that I decided to try to kill all the spam I do, but I wonder why most people I see prefer to press the same bottom 50 times instead of just holding it.


It might be linked to the whole APM spam argument.
If players spam the button then their hands will be more used to the faster speeds.


As long as you can use that speed and be efficient.
halldor
Profile Joined December 2011
Iceland43 Posts
February 12 2013 11:01 GMT
#14858
What is the optimal mineral saturation? i hear players say that it's 16, but i've heard that 3 per patch is where you acn mine the most, and i've seen f.x. idra go alot higher then 16, but jaedong goes for 16, etc, can someone please explain this to me?
for the swarm
Dragnmn
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands52 Posts
February 12 2013 12:34 GMT
#14859
16 workers (2 per patch) gives you the most income per worker, while 24 workers (3 per patch) gives you the most income per patch. 32 (4 per patch) gives no improvement over 24. Therefore you should aim for 16, if you have too many you can get up to 24 (but you should consider expanding for example), and if you have over 24 at a base you can get rid of a few.
cheerful
Profile Joined December 2012
78 Posts
February 12 2013 16:31 GMT
#14860
Does it make sense to start learning WoL now? Or should I wait until Hots to really get into sc2?
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