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Koltronn
Profile Joined February 2013
United States29 Posts
February 12 2013 17:31 GMT
#14861
@cheerful: you should get into starcraft as soon as possible, HotS is coming out soon, but not tomarow, and also it won't change the game mechanics that you will need to know to be a good player.
Naw man, I'm good.
cheerful
Profile Joined December 2012
78 Posts
February 12 2013 17:49 GMT
#14862
On February 13 2013 02:31 Koltronn wrote:
@cheerful: you should get into starcraft as soon as possible, HotS is coming out soon, but not tomarow, and also it won't change the game mechanics that you will need to know to be a good player.


I was just wondering because right now I'm high bronze and my goal was to get to platinum.. but now with hots on the way I'm not sure if I should put time into learning builds etc.
HelioSeven
Profile Joined February 2012
United States193 Posts
February 12 2013 19:27 GMT
#14863
On February 13 2013 02:49 cheerful wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 02:31 Koltronn wrote:
@cheerful: you should get into starcraft as soon as possible, HotS is coming out soon, but not tomarow, and also it won't change the game mechanics that you will need to know to be a good player.


I was just wondering because right now I'm high bronze and my goal was to get to platinum.. but now with hots on the way I'm not sure if I should put time into learning builds etc.


Early game builds should stay more or less the same. The good ones, anyway (1 gate expand, 3rax, etc). Only the mid and late games should really change all that much.
If I smite you, have you been smitten?
cheerful
Profile Joined December 2012
78 Posts
February 12 2013 20:42 GMT
#14864
Thanks!
ricepudding
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
February 13 2013 06:36 GMT
#14865
On February 13 2013 01:31 cheerful wrote:
Does it make sense to start learning WoL now? Or should I wait until Hots to really get into sc2?


Yes. Most of the units are the same, so you probably want to start playing WoL to get used the game mechanics and the units.
never say die.
xxjcdentonxx
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 14:20:32
February 13 2013 14:01 GMT
#14866
What scrolling speeds do top professionals use?
"Expand or die." —Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #45
xxjcdentonxx
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada163 Posts
February 13 2013 14:19 GMT
#14867
I sometimes have a strange lag affect my client at the worst possible times. I've noticed it's actually very specific, in that it happens when I need to be doing something important. For example- this just happened to me. ZvT - I am Z. My overlord sees an early SCV is coming to block my drone from making a hatchery at the natural. I made the 15th drone, and wait for 200 minerals to build a spawning pool. However, in a few seconds, my client freezes up. After 10 seconds or so, I see a Waiting for Server dialog, and then it unfreezes and I have about 320 minerals. This is not a coincidence- it happened at that specific time for a reason. Has this issue been identified by the TL community?
"Expand or die." —Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #45
ricepudding
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
February 14 2013 00:09 GMT
#14868
On February 13 2013 23:01 xxjcdentonxx wrote:
What scrolling speeds do top professionals use?


Whichever is the most comfortable for them.
There's no set scroll speed.
never say die.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
February 14 2013 05:01 GMT
#14869
what's a third?

can a natural expansion be a third?
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SweKenZo
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden82 Posts
February 14 2013 14:32 GMT
#14870
How do you micro mutas against pheonix (without range ofc) ?
Bronze->Silver->Gold->Platinum->Diamond-> ?
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
February 14 2013 14:48 GMT
#14871
On February 14 2013 23:32 SweKenZo wrote:
How do you micro mutas against pheonix (without range ofc) ?

Well it relies on Protoss messing up, but basically you switch directions. Fly away from the phoenix, then instantly turn around and one-shot-kill a phoenix. Rinse and repeat, not cost efficient but it can work (especially if it's 3-4 base Zerg against 1 stargate phoenixes).
Getting back into sc2 O_o
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 16:49:55
February 14 2013 16:36 GMT
#14872
On February 14 2013 14:01 suicideyear wrote:
what's a third?

can a natural expansion be a third?


A third can, as a natural or a main, refer to two things:

Either the geographical position on a map where you would "logically" take your third base as expanding. Sometimes there is one viable position, sometimes two. On Daybreak it would be the third position on a line from the mains. On the leftmost position look upwards, on the rightmost look down. It might be argued that the bases towards the middle by the watchtowers are also potential third base positions. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Daybreak

The second thing it can refer to is the -actual- third base you've built. That might be on a different position than geographical proximity allows. So if you had a third base on Daybreak hidden away somewhere then that would be your third.

So to answer your second question. It can in the sense that you could take your third expansion at another natural exp. This is usually the case on fourplayer maps such as Antiga Shipyard http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Antiga_Shipyard where there are several unoccupied mains and naturals. You could conceivably take your geographical third as your second exp, and then take your natural as your third for whatever reason but that would typically be called a natural anyway.
SOURD1ESEL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States57 Posts
February 14 2013 19:20 GMT
#14873
I'm learning zerg. I am doing FS bronze to master. The largest issue I have is toss going air. If I scout toss going air, what is the simplest thing I can do to combat it. Hydras?
HelioSeven
Profile Joined February 2012
United States193 Posts
February 14 2013 23:28 GMT
#14874
On February 15 2013 04:20 SOURD1ESEL wrote:
I'm learning zerg. I am doing FS bronze to master. The largest issue I have is toss going air. If I scout toss going air, what is the simplest thing I can do to combat it. Hydras?


Going to preface my statement by saying that Toss is my main race, and I play quite a bit of Skytoss, particularly in PvZ. That said, I don't play much Zerg, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Hydras have insane damage, but their speed off creep and their low health reduce their viability in anything other than a defensive role (excluding crazy shenanigans like nydus worms). In large engagements, a couple of colossi or even sufficient numbers of carriers should have no trouble cleaning the floor with large groups of hydras; pathing collisions and mid-tier range become major hindrances with hydras in large groups.

Of the responses that I've seen, infestors tend to be unilaterally the best. They directly counter one of Skytoss' biggest strengths, which it's mobility. Good fungals are crucial to picking off a couple units here and there, which is the most effective reduction of strength of a Skytoss army. Infested terrans also add crucial DPS in key engagements. For accompaniment, corruptors are probably the best, as they have the health and armor to provide a meatshield for your infestors, but don't rely on them too heavily as their damage is rather lackluster on their own.

Ultimately, the composition you want to move toward is heavy infestor/corruptor, with maybe just a few hydras sprinkled in for DPS and a couple of brood lords to keep HTs and their storms at bay.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
February 14 2013 23:35 GMT
#14875
Where is fishuu, the guy that made artwork for TL?
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 23:50:36
February 14 2013 23:40 GMT
#14876
Following Aunvilgod missing persons request, has anyone heard anything about John the Translator? I assume he is still working for Gom but since we never hear anything I wondered if I had missed something.

edit/update
-- I found his twitter account and it looks like he is just working behind the scenes
When asked "How come I don't see you working anymore?"
his response was "a mark of a good house elf is that you never know he is there"

edit/update 2
Here is Fishuu's twitter, you might can ask him there. From the looks of it he might be working on starting a webcomic.
https://twitter.com/fishuuuu
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
February 15 2013 03:56 GMT
#14877
What is the best way to improve Ghost micro?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
IceLemonTea23
Profile Joined June 2012
Malaysia18 Posts
February 15 2013 05:13 GMT
#14878
What will happen if they changed the ghost snipe back to 45 pure damage in TvZ ? Doesn't it make the matchup more viable in favour of T since they're losing alot now ?
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 05:21:16
February 15 2013 05:19 GMT
#14879
On February 15 2013 14:13 IceLemonTea23 wrote:
What will happen if they changed the ghost snipe back to 45 pure damage in TvZ ? Doesn't it make the matchup more viable in favour of T since they're losing alot now ?


It just makes the Ghost op once again and used against every zerg unit way too cost efficiently.

On February 13 2013 23:01 xxjcdentonxx wrote:
What scrolling speeds do top professionals use?


Losira uses almost the highest settings and ForGG almost lowest. It's really up to personal preference
ricepudding
Profile Joined February 2013
47 Posts
February 15 2013 08:22 GMT
#14880
I have a question about MMR and matchmaking.
I'm currently in gold league. I played three games tonight and won all of them.
The first time, they put me up against a platinum player, and I won. I assumed that Blizzard was going to put me against all platinums until I get promoted, but the next game, I was put against a gold (which is fine), and the game after that, I was up against a silver.

What's up with that?
I thought they only put you against people in lower leagues if they want to demote you or something.
never say die.
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