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Flowsick
Profile Joined June 2011
Estonia234 Posts
January 23 2013 09:24 GMT
#14741
On January 23 2013 02:04 kirika80 wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but it's the best I could find.

In Korean tournaments (Proleague, GSL, etc.) near the player names, there is often a letter for the player's race with a number next to it (Z11 or P7 or whatever). What does the number mean?


Starting position of the player on the map as placed on the face of a clock. Top center is 12, bottom center is 6 etc.
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
January 23 2013 16:25 GMT
#14742
As toss, once I get saturate my natural and main in about 12 mins odd and go for a push vs any race , what is the ideal no of military buildings to have - Like 12 gates + 2 robo + 2 forge will be enuff to constantly sink in the gold?
Somethings are just worth fighting for
CommanderS
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany53 Posts
January 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#14743
Is it allowed to bind left-click to mousewheel so you remove units faster from a control group and cast abilities faster?
SparkSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
United States5 Posts
January 23 2013 17:57 GMT
#14744
How many workers should I have at each base? I usually make select all the workers at 1 base and if there is exactly 24 I stop making them at that base, is this the best amount?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 18:36:11
January 23 2013 18:35 GMT
#14745
On January 24 2013 02:57 Penta J wrote:
How many workers should I have at each base? I usually make select all the workers at 1 base and if there is exactly 24 I stop making them at that base, is this the best amount?


2 on each mineral patch is considered "saturated", where anything more won't proportionally increase the income. But you can still have as much as 3 pr mineral patch, to a total of 24 (+6 for gas). 30 on each base is max. But there could be situations where you'd want more if you plan on expanding, so you can instantly saturate both bases once you move out.
RedDeathLiquid
Profile Joined November 2012
Poland16 Posts
January 24 2013 01:55 GMT
#14746
On January 24 2013 01:29 CommanderS wrote:
Is it allowed to bind left-click to mousewheel so you remove units faster from a control group and cast abilities faster?


The simple answer is that it has never been confirmed or denied by Blizzard. The tournaments could have their own rules on that.

The upside - in practice there is no real evidence that it's illegal. You can map one key to one action, that's the rule. Here we map one scroll (moving scroll wheel one position) to one action - left click. You don't need to change drivers a lot of the time to do it - some hardware has it built in. One more fact - progamers sometimes use this.

The downside - it's considered a trick/cheat by many. Basically it's because you can scroll (well, click in this case) very very fast. I remember Stephano comment on this on his stream some time ago, and he said he'll sometimes use it in games on ladder but not in tournaments.

My opinion - yeah, I know you all want to hear it - Blizzard didn't comment on this because they don't consider it a problem. I would be extremely surprised if they started banning people based on this particular trick. But as always, you use it on your own risk!

*Apologies if I missed any important information, I really did research on the subject, as it interested me personally.
Tomorrow’s Battle is Won during Today’s Training
schwza
Profile Joined September 2011
67 Posts
January 24 2013 04:04 GMT
#14747
If my opponent opens 1 rax FE in a TvZ, what time will the first banshee finish? What about CC first or reactor hellion expand?
schwza
Profile Joined September 2011
67 Posts
January 24 2013 04:13 GMT
#14748
On January 24 2013 10:55 RedDeathLiquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 01:29 CommanderS wrote:
Is it allowed to bind left-click to mousewheel so you remove units faster from a control group and cast abilities faster?


The simple answer is that it has never been confirmed or denied by Blizzard. The tournaments could have their own rules on that.

The upside - in practice there is no real evidence that it's illegal. You can map one key to one action, that's the rule. Here we map one scroll (moving scroll wheel one position) to one action - left click. You don't need to change drivers a lot of the time to do it - some hardware has it built in. One more fact - progamers sometimes use this.

The downside - it's considered a trick/cheat by many. Basically it's because you can scroll (well, click in this case) very very fast. I remember Stephano comment on this on his stream some time ago, and he said he'll sometimes use it in games on ladder but not in tournaments.

My opinion - yeah, I know you all want to hear it - Blizzard didn't comment on this because they don't consider it a problem. I would be extremely surprised if they started banning people based on this particular trick. But as always, you use it on your own risk!

*Apologies if I missed any important information, I really did research on the subject, as it interested me personally.


How do you do that? Is there a way to do it within the game or do I need to mess with my mouse driver?
Sachem
Profile Joined May 2011
United States116 Posts
January 24 2013 05:24 GMT
#14749
On January 24 2013 01:25 vahgar.r24 wrote:
As toss, once I get saturate my natural and main in about 12 mins odd and go for a push vs any race , what is the ideal no of military buildings to have - Like 12 gates + 2 robo + 2 forge will be enuff to constantly sink in the gold?


Here's the Protoss unit production calc, keep in mind that if your macro isn't perfect, adding additional gates may well be needed and worthwhile. Also, additional gates beyond what you can "support" are often added on, so as to be able to warp in reinforcements if you won't have time to get robotics units across the map.

An example of a highly refined 2 base would be Parting's Soulful Immortal 2 base, which is 7 gate, 1 robo.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8254 Posts
January 24 2013 10:35 GMT
#14750
On January 24 2013 13:13 schwza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 10:55 RedDeathLiquid wrote:
On January 24 2013 01:29 CommanderS wrote:
Is it allowed to bind left-click to mousewheel so you remove units faster from a control group and cast abilities faster?


The simple answer is that it has never been confirmed or denied by Blizzard. The tournaments could have their own rules on that.

The upside - in practice there is no real evidence that it's illegal. You can map one key to one action, that's the rule. Here we map one scroll (moving scroll wheel one position) to one action - left click. You don't need to change drivers a lot of the time to do it - some hardware has it built in. One more fact - progamers sometimes use this.

The downside - it's considered a trick/cheat by many. Basically it's because you can scroll (well, click in this case) very very fast. I remember Stephano comment on this on his stream some time ago, and he said he'll sometimes use it in games on ladder but not in tournaments.

My opinion - yeah, I know you all want to hear it - Blizzard didn't comment on this because they don't consider it a problem. I would be extremely surprised if they started banning people based on this particular trick. But as always, you use it on your own risk!

*Apologies if I missed any important information, I really did research on the subject, as it interested me personally.


How do you do that? Is there a way to do it within the game or do I need to mess with my mouse driver?


There's no way to do this in game. The way you do it is to bind your "scroll up/down" to, say, numpad 3. And then bind numpad 3 to whatever you want in game. Most gamer mouses these days have an onboard memory so it will still work at tournaments and stuff without installing a driver. I don't find it cheating either, but then again theres not much you can earn on it to begin with tbh. The only thing I can think off is infested terran launching.
RedDeathLiquid
Profile Joined November 2012
Poland16 Posts
January 24 2013 12:46 GMT
#14751
On January 24 2013 19:35 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 13:13 schwza wrote:
On January 24 2013 10:55 RedDeathLiquid wrote:
On January 24 2013 01:29 CommanderS wrote:
Is it allowed to bind left-click to mousewheel so you remove units faster from a control group and cast abilities faster?


The simple answer is that it has never been confirmed or denied by Blizzard. The tournaments could have their own rules on that.

The upside - in practice there is no real evidence that it's illegal. You can map one key to one action, that's the rule. Here we map one scroll (moving scroll wheel one position) to one action - left click. You don't need to change drivers a lot of the time to do it - some hardware has it built in. One more fact - progamers sometimes use this.

The downside - it's considered a trick/cheat by many. Basically it's because you can scroll (well, click in this case) very very fast. I remember Stephano comment on this on his stream some time ago, and he said he'll sometimes use it in games on ladder but not in tournaments.

My opinion - yeah, I know you all want to hear it - Blizzard didn't comment on this because they don't consider it a problem. I would be extremely surprised if they started banning people based on this particular trick. But as always, you use it on your own risk!

*Apologies if I missed any important information, I really did research on the subject, as it interested me personally.


How do you do that? Is there a way to do it within the game or do I need to mess with my mouse driver?


There's no way to do this in game. The way you do it is to bind your "scroll up/down" to, say, numpad 3. And then bind numpad 3 to whatever you want in game. Most gamer mouses these days have an onboard memory so it will still work at tournaments and stuff without installing a driver. I don't find it cheating either, but then again theres not much you can earn on it to begin with tbh. The only thing I can think off is infested terran launching.


I don't use the trick either, but actually, the original post got me thinking about one more use - de-selecting units faster. I played with it for a while yesterday and it was pretty neat. Example:
You want to send 20 lings to defend but leave the rest in main control group, and save the main control group without the de-selected units. Normally you would have to
a) click 20 times to do it, here you scroll much faster
b) drag 20 units, but then you can't easily remove them from control group

Basically it was really nice for a ~30-year-old-guy like me and my hands, which do not have Korean speed . Plus the infested terrans drop is hilarious if you have like 20+ infestors.

As for how to do this, each mouse driver is different, but if you're not in a tournament you can just use AutoHotkey. Just Google and install it, then save this script to a .ahk file and run it, all of course at your own risk!!!
The script:
+ Show Spoiler +

SetKeyDelay,0

#HotkeyInterval 2000

#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 3000

+wheelup::SendInput {Blind}{LButton}

+wheeldown::SendInput {Blind}{LButton}

wheelup::SendInput {Blind}{LButton}

Wheeldown::SendInput {Blind}{LButton}

!x::Suspend


Important things:
1. In the script it turns on/off mode (normal scroll vs left-clicking on scroll) by hitting Alt + X, you can of course modify it in the script.
2. In the SC2 Controls options turn off "Mouse wheel zoom" option - it can interfere and you don't want to suddenly play zoomed in.
3. The script still uses the rule one key - one action, so it should be all good with Blizzard policy, but if you don't like it don't use it of course.
Tomorrow’s Battle is Won during Today’s Training
learning88
Profile Joined April 2005
United States160 Posts
January 25 2013 04:39 GMT
#14752
How do you attack SCVs that are building? I send my drone to attack the SCV specifically but then it stops once the SCV moves to another part of the building to work.
ThyLastPenguin
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
January 25 2013 07:47 GMT
#14753
On January 25 2013 13:39 learning88 wrote:
How do you attack SCVs that are building? I send my drone to attack the SCV specifically but then it stops once the SCV moves to another part of the building to work.


If you right click the SCV then shift+spam right click then the probe/drone/ultralisk will follow the SCV round the building.
"Stephano is pretty much saving SC2 one hidden knife and pedophile joke at a time." - Fionn
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
January 25 2013 13:31 GMT
#14754
How long vision range do unfinished buildings have? (constructing CC, Hatchery morphing, Nexus warping etc.) Is it 9 - same as all buildings except for the ones mentioned in vision on liquipedia? Or is it different?
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 14:35:04
January 25 2013 14:22 GMT
#14755
Did Blizzard say somethingn about NOT going back to normal time for HOTS? I thought that want to make an ingame second a real second?!

Is it possible to change the hotkey to select every worker (strg+f1) to alt+f1?I cant find the setting...



I saw pictures of a UI Editor, did they remove this feature?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
January 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#14756
Hi.

What's the range on emp,feedback, and snipe?

Thank you.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
January 25 2013 14:47 GMT
#14757
On January 25 2013 23:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
Hi.

What's the range on emp,feedback, and snipe?

Thank you.


10, 9, 10
Liquipedia.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
January 25 2013 15:48 GMT
#14758
not sure if this is the place, but does anybody know the post count for race icon?

100, 200, 500, 1000 etc?
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
obis
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 18:07:16
January 26 2013 01:08 GMT
#14759
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SOURD1ESEL
Profile Joined December 2011
United States57 Posts
January 26 2013 10:03 GMT
#14760
Two part question.

I'm plat. In tvz what do I do with my vikings if they transition out of Blords?

When Zerg transition into Ultras and I have no tech labs on my rax what do I do? Do I lift several of my rax to make tech labs? do I use my factory tech labs? What do I make out of my factory? seige tanks? are thors better Vs ultras???

Thank you
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