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SuperPro
Profile Joined February 2012
99 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 20:07:32
June 06 2012 20:07 GMT
#12861
On June 07 2012 00:24 Shyatic wrote:
Do people (terran) bind all their production buildings to one hotkey, or multiples?

just curious what tends to be more popular...

Not completely sure, speaking for myself I put them on different hotkeys. 4-CC's 5-Barracks 6-factory 7-starport 1-main army, 2 - vikings/tanks 3- Ghosts

I think most koreans have them on different hotkeys.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 06 2012 20:09 GMT
#12862
On June 07 2012 01:17 Abusion wrote:
does increasing APM increase your skill? I have an average of 80 APM and I'm a high diamond player if I actively try to increase my apm will it increase my skill or should I work on other things first?

At this point, yes, improving your APM will help you reach masters. There are play styles that do not incorporate high APM at master level but for most, having a higher APM helps deal with multiprong attacks and win engagements. In lower levels it is due course to say what the above poster said "APM doesn't matter, improve your other skills and your apm will rise" but around the Diamond-Master region having an APM consistently at 80 or above is important for most to succeed.

Of course I don't know what race you play; it's well documented that Zerg requires more/Protoss requires less. If you are playing Protoss I would focus less on speed and more on accuracy. If you were playing Zerg, I would recommend micro/APM trainers.
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
June 06 2012 20:10 GMT
#12863
On June 07 2012 05:07 sM.Zik wrote:
Ok so hum not really sure if its the good thread for it, but its a simple question so why not.

Why is this so difficult to find Sc2 vods? I mean yea I can type some players name on youtube or GSL whatever but I have the feeling that only a few games are uploaded. Im new to Sc2, I was a bw player for 13 years and every single game of pro korean bw are on the TLPD, why isnt the same with Sc2?

Please help me, I want to watch as most vods as possible to understand Sc2 the fastest possible, im currently high platinum after 3 weeks of Sc2 but I feel its only because of my mechanic because I still don't really know what im doing.

Edit : I forgot to say that I want Vods from GSL Code S or similar skill level players, I dont really like watching foreigners level of game im used to watch the best of the best, thanks!


Sorry to quote myself, I had the last post of the page so I just want to make sure people see it !

Thanks
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
June 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#12864
On June 07 2012 05:10 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 05:07 sM.Zik wrote:
Ok so hum not really sure if its the good thread for it, but its a simple question so why not.

Why is this so difficult to find Sc2 vods? I mean yea I can type some players name on youtube or GSL whatever but I have the feeling that only a few games are uploaded. Im new to Sc2, I was a bw player for 13 years and every single game of pro korean bw are on the TLPD, why isnt the same with Sc2?

Please help me, I want to watch as most vods as possible to understand Sc2 the fastest possible, im currently high platinum after 3 weeks of Sc2 but I feel its only because of my mechanic because I still don't really know what im doing.

Edit : I forgot to say that I want Vods from GSL Code S or similar skill level players, I dont really like watching foreigners level of game im used to watch the best of the best, thanks!


Sorry to quote myself, I had the last post of the page so I just want to make sure people see it !

Thanks


Try http://www.gomtv.net/league/index.gom if you sign up for their (pay) games you get code S/gstl vods.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
June 06 2012 20:39 GMT
#12865
On June 07 2012 05:03 EsX_Raptor wrote:
I've noticed most pros don't maynard. Why?

Also, why do top GMs in the Korean ladder have names like "lllllllllllllllll?"

Pros do maynard, that's just not correct. Lots of Pros have those barcode names because it makes the accounts much more anonymous - it's difficult to identify the player and even if you do, it's hard to search for replays from that account.
The frumious Bandersnatch
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
June 06 2012 20:40 GMT
#12866
On June 07 2012 05:22 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 05:10 sM.Zik wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:07 sM.Zik wrote:
Ok so hum not really sure if its the good thread for it, but its a simple question so why not.

Why is this so difficult to find Sc2 vods? I mean yea I can type some players name on youtube or GSL whatever but I have the feeling that only a few games are uploaded. Im new to Sc2, I was a bw player for 13 years and every single game of pro korean bw are on the TLPD, why isnt the same with Sc2?

Please help me, I want to watch as most vods as possible to understand Sc2 the fastest possible, im currently high platinum after 3 weeks of Sc2 but I feel its only because of my mechanic because I still don't really know what im doing.

Edit : I forgot to say that I want Vods from GSL Code S or similar skill level players, I dont really like watching foreigners level of game im used to watch the best of the best, thanks!


Sorry to quote myself, I had the last post of the page so I just want to make sure people see it !

Thanks


Try http://www.gomtv.net/league/index.gom if you sign up for their (pay) games you get code S/gstl vods.


So if I dont spend any money, there is no way I can watch most of the koreans vods? Why is this all about the money nowadays.. The SPL Sc2 matches are still all availabe and free to watch on youtube, but their level of Sc2 isnt up to GSL players yet.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 20:50:46
June 06 2012 20:50 GMT
#12867
On June 07 2012 05:40 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 05:22 Snoodles wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:10 sM.Zik wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:07 sM.Zik wrote:
Ok so hum not really sure if its the good thread for it, but its a simple question so why not.

Why is this so difficult to find Sc2 vods? I mean yea I can type some players name on youtube or GSL whatever but I have the feeling that only a few games are uploaded. Im new to Sc2, I was a bw player for 13 years and every single game of pro korean bw are on the TLPD, why isnt the same with Sc2?

Please help me, I want to watch as most vods as possible to understand Sc2 the fastest possible, im currently high platinum after 3 weeks of Sc2 but I feel its only because of my mechanic because I still don't really know what im doing.

Edit : I forgot to say that I want Vods from GSL Code S or similar skill level players, I dont really like watching foreigners level of game im used to watch the best of the best, thanks!


Sorry to quote myself, I had the last post of the page so I just want to make sure people see it !

Thanks


Try http://www.gomtv.net/league/index.gom if you sign up for their (pay) games you get code S/gstl vods.


So if I dont spend any money, there is no way I can watch most of the koreans vods? Why is this all about the money nowadays.. The SPL Sc2 matches are still all availabe and free to watch on youtube, but their level of Sc2 isnt up to GSL players yet.


Well Esports isn't free. Venues and Prize money don't fall out of the sky. Any how there are enough streams and restreams that VODs are that necessary.

ESV Korean weekly is pretty much always on. Also IGNProleague.
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TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
June 06 2012 20:51 GMT
#12868
On June 07 2012 05:40 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 05:22 Snoodles wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:10 sM.Zik wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:07 sM.Zik wrote:
Ok so hum not really sure if its the good thread for it, but its a simple question so why not.

Why is this so difficult to find Sc2 vods? I mean yea I can type some players name on youtube or GSL whatever but I have the feeling that only a few games are uploaded. Im new to Sc2, I was a bw player for 13 years and every single game of pro korean bw are on the TLPD, why isnt the same with Sc2?

Please help me, I want to watch as most vods as possible to understand Sc2 the fastest possible, im currently high platinum after 3 weeks of Sc2 but I feel its only because of my mechanic because I still don't really know what im doing.

Edit : I forgot to say that I want Vods from GSL Code S or similar skill level players, I dont really like watching foreigners level of game im used to watch the best of the best, thanks!


Sorry to quote myself, I had the last post of the page so I just want to make sure people see it !

Thanks


Try http://www.gomtv.net/league/index.gom if you sign up for their (pay) games you get code S/gstl vods.


So if I dont spend any money, there is no way I can watch most of the koreans vods? Why is this all about the money nowadays.. The SPL Sc2 matches are still all availabe and free to watch on youtube, but their level of Sc2 isnt up to GSL players yet.


It's still quite easy to find replay packs of the top pros, which imho is much better for learning than vods.
Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 20:58:33
June 06 2012 20:52 GMT
#12869
On June 07 2012 05:22 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 05:10 sM.Zik wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:07 sM.Zik wrote:
Ok so hum not really sure if its the good thread for it, but its a simple question so why not.

Why is this so difficult to find Sc2 vods? I mean yea I can type some players name on youtube or GSL whatever but I have the feeling that only a few games are uploaded. Im new to Sc2, I was a bw player for 13 years and every single game of pro korean bw are on the TLPD, why isnt the same with Sc2?

Please help me, I want to watch as most vods as possible to understand Sc2 the fastest possible, im currently high platinum after 3 weeks of Sc2 but I feel its only because of my mechanic because I still don't really know what im doing.

Edit : I forgot to say that I want Vods from GSL Code S or similar skill level players, I dont really like watching foreigners level of game im used to watch the best of the best, thanks!


Sorry to quote myself, I had the last post of the page so I just want to make sure people see it !

Thanks


Try http://www.gomtv.net/league/index.gom if you sign up for their (pay) games you get code S/gstl vods.

This is also the reason you won't find them on Youtube. Gom owns the broadcasting rights to all their games so if you want Code S games you have to go through Gom.

If you want to see Code S level players play ladder or practice games, there are the live streams that are always listed on TL. Some Code S and Code A players stream quite a bit and you can usually find VODs of their streams on their respective streaming channel.

EDIT: I'll also add that besides a paywall that Gom places in front of GSL and GSTL games, the level of availability and access of pro-level content in SC2 dwarfs BW. There is no Kespa style organization that keeps players on a short leash. So I disagree with the attitude that it's all about the money. It's not really that black and white.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
June 06 2012 20:56 GMT
#12870
On June 07 2012 05:50 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 05:40 sM.Zik wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:22 Snoodles wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:10 sM.Zik wrote:
On June 07 2012 05:07 sM.Zik wrote:
Ok so hum not really sure if its the good thread for it, but its a simple question so why not.

Why is this so difficult to find Sc2 vods? I mean yea I can type some players name on youtube or GSL whatever but I have the feeling that only a few games are uploaded. Im new to Sc2, I was a bw player for 13 years and every single game of pro korean bw are on the TLPD, why isnt the same with Sc2?

Please help me, I want to watch as most vods as possible to understand Sc2 the fastest possible, im currently high platinum after 3 weeks of Sc2 but I feel its only because of my mechanic because I still don't really know what im doing.

Edit : I forgot to say that I want Vods from GSL Code S or similar skill level players, I dont really like watching foreigners level of game im used to watch the best of the best, thanks!


Sorry to quote myself, I had the last post of the page so I just want to make sure people see it !

Thanks


Try http://www.gomtv.net/league/index.gom if you sign up for their (pay) games you get code S/gstl vods.


So if I dont spend any money, there is no way I can watch most of the koreans vods? Why is this all about the money nowadays.. The SPL Sc2 matches are still all availabe and free to watch on youtube, but their level of Sc2 isnt up to GSL players yet.


Well Esports isn't free. Venues and Prize money don't fall out of the sky. Any how there are enough streams and restreams that VODs are that necessary.

ESV Korean weekly is pretty much always on. Also IGNProleague.


Well for me, a bw player that played over 13 years, Esports has always been free. OGN stream their game for free and upload the games after, again for free. Im just not used to Sc2 standards ;p

Thanks for the answers guys!
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
June 07 2012 00:46 GMT
#12871
Has there ever been a draw in an SC2 progame?
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
June 07 2012 01:11 GMT
#12872
Hi. I'm a 1.1k points Masters Zerg NA. I would appreciate if T/P, if you think zerg is OP, to tell me why, and how can I just never lose a game. I'm not trying to talk about balance, but for example, any zerg would tell you Terran can never lose close spawn, you just take a quick expand, take a reasonably quick third, and play a macro game.

Thanks. Really not trying to get into balance discussion, just want to hear what you guys think is hard, or what smart zergs should be doing. I know I'm always perplexed when I run into T/P who do 'bad' strategies on certain maps, ie all-inning instead of playing a macro game on close spawn.
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Vathus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 02:37:22
June 07 2012 02:17 GMT
#12873
On June 07 2012 10:11 Belial88 wrote:
Hi. I'm a 1.1k points Masters Zerg NA. I would appreciate if T/P, if you think zerg is OP, to tell me why, and how can I just never lose a game. I'm not trying to talk about balance, but for example, any zerg would tell you Terran can never lose close spawn, you just take a quick expand, take a reasonably quick third, and play a macro game.

Thanks. Really not trying to get into balance discussion, just want to hear what you guys think is hard, or what smart zergs should be doing. I know I'm always perplexed when I run into T/P who do 'bad' strategies on certain maps, ie all-inning instead of playing a macro game on close spawn.


Hmm I tried to think of a situation for a while. I don't think that zerg is OP can can never lose but on maps like antiga, korhal, metal, and shakuras I think it's incredibly difficult to play a normal macro game as protoss. If you try and take your 3rd at a normal time zerg can go for the stephano style roach max and position their units between the nat and 3rd forcing protoss to either burn all their ffs to fight in the open or retreat to one side leaving the other base open. So if I were zerg playing on antiga I would be worried about 2 base allins or builds that take an extremely quick 3rd nexus. So if you make sure you scout well enough to not die to the 2 base allin or can punish a quick 3rd then you can make it very difficult for protoss to play a "standard" 3 base style by doing a roach max.
Smoodish
Profile Joined April 2011
United States95 Posts
June 07 2012 02:36 GMT
#12874
On June 07 2012 09:46 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Has there ever been a draw in an SC2 progame?


Yes, there have been many, mostly in TvX sort've games. Sorry i can't remember any off the top of my head, but i do remember boxing forcing a draw when he was going to lose, forcing a regame. Pretty clever, no ?
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
June 07 2012 13:46 GMT
#12875
I'm in the NA ladder. Is there a way for me to play with someone in the EU ladder?
eusoc
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy82 Posts
June 07 2012 13:49 GMT
#12876
On June 07 2012 22:46 EsX_Raptor wrote:
I'm in the NA ladder. Is there a way for me to play with someone in the EU ladder?


U need to buy a EU account... or wait for HotS at it should merge all servers
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 16:01:58
June 07 2012 16:00 GMT
#12877
Is an opening like Titan does here: Replay, safe? How would he have reacted to an early pool or a roach/baneling bust? Don't anwser unless you know what you are talking about and have seen the replay.
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
June 07 2012 18:04 GMT
#12878
On June 08 2012 01:00 Kevan wrote:
Is an opening like Titan does here: Replay, safe? How would he have reacted to an early pool or a roach/baneling bust? Don't anwser unless you know what you are talking about and have seen the replay.

Defending an early pool with the gate next to the Nexus is possible (White-Ra used to do that a lot, I don't know if he still does), but it's not as easy as with a wall-off. I'm not sure about the Baneling bust, why not try it out a few dozen times and put together a guide?
The frumious Bandersnatch
SolPhantSN
Profile Joined June 2012
21 Posts
June 07 2012 18:31 GMT
#12879
If I'm going to be making a new account with the goal of getting to Grandmasters or as high in Masters as possible next season, what should I do (if anything) with that account now during the ladder lock? Mass games, get it to just barely Masters MMR, don't play it at all? Just wondering what would be best for the rank/league of the account. I have plenty of accounts to play for the sake of practice in the meantime.
Broesl
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 18:42:38
June 07 2012 18:38 GMT
#12880
On June 08 2012 03:04 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 01:00 Kevan wrote:
Is an opening like Titan does here: Replay, safe? How would he have reacted to an early pool or a roach/baneling bust? Don't anwser unless you know what you are talking about and have seen the replay.

Defending an early pool with the gate next to the Nexus is possible (White-Ra used to do that a lot, I don't know if he still does), but it's not as easy as with a wall-off. I'm not sure about the Baneling bust, why not try it out a few dozen times and put together a guide?


BS, Why do you think WhiteRa did it ? Not just because of economy, but the fact that really early pools(6-maybe9) are easy to hold with gateway at the nexus, cause if u wall you still dont have your wall up, but you cant fight with probes either, so you are basically losing buildings while you try to delay for your zealot to finish, extremely awkward situation, at the nexus you can defend with probes fine till the zealot without losing too much mining time or buildings.

edit: the wall in PvZ-GateOpeners, is just what you want against everything else after that, speedlings most importantly, and if you know you dont get earlypooled(which you assume most of the time you just start it at the start), thats exactly why whitera did it, build at the nexus against early pool and if that timing is over he builds his 2 extra gates at the wall against speedlings that could then be out.

And its not really about the gate positioning, titan could go with a gate at the main ramp if he wanted, what Kevan wants to know is if the gate first into forge stuff that titan is doing is safe and how he reacts to early pools.
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