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Question: What should i be thinking about when placing my overlords? I want vision but don't want them dead right? Advice plz.

Kyamo

Canada129 Posts

March 09 2011 17:28 GMT

#762

Question: Why do zerg players sometimes bring many overlords with the army when attacking? I am not talking about when they are full of banelings, I mean empty overlords.

wizzy09

Brazil7 Posts

March 09 2011 17:40 GMT

#763

How many bases i must take to produce mutas on a constant flow?

How many corruptors i should have per colossi?

voy

Poland348 Posts

March 09 2011 17:47 GMT

#764

@kyamo

its harder to focus fire on ur army for the opponent when You take the overlords.

@wizzy

1. more is always better then less. I would go for 3

2. im taking like 12-14 coru to kill 5-6 colossi. You have to use corruption always, remember.

deathly rat

United Kingdom911 Posts

March 09 2011 17:49 GMT

#765

On March 10 2011 02:40 wizzy09 wrote:
1) How many bases i must take to produce mutas on a constant flow?

2) How many corruptors i should have per colossi?

1) makes no sense. Try playing as Zerg vs computer and you will see you can make as many mutas as you have larva/minerals/gas all at once. Nobody in their right mind is producing them one at a time.

2) Obviously depends not on the colossi but the support army. If it's only zealots & Colossi then 1 corruptor will destroy all colossi. If there are 40 upgraded blink stalkers then you're gonna have a tough time killing the colossi even with many many corruptors.

StormWeapon

United States159 Posts

March 09 2011 17:55 GMT

#766

Q: If I am going 6gate, what is a pretty reasonable/normal timing to be attacking on?

CookieMaker

Canada880 Posts

March 09 2011 17:56 GMT

#767

@deathlyrat
-yes, that is the idea. Also, you want your first/second ovie in a position where it can be sacced into the enemy's base at opportune times (anywhere from 30-45 food) to scout his tech/army path when ling/ramp pokes dont work. Against terran, however, always keep your second ovie over your ramp and natural to watch for bunkers being built.
Later on you want your ovies spread to every base (this is assuming you have map air control, impossible to do agianst phoenix) and around hte edges of the map to spot dropships heading for your base.

@Kyamo
-to soak initial hits from units that hit air and have long range (i.e. thors) so their ground army can get closer without taking as many hits

@wizzy
-You will never be able to produce mutas on a "constant stream" relative to how many larvae you can spawn. Because larvae don't work like rax and don't have a "lineup" to be produced, when you have the money (or in mutas case, the gas), you just make units. However, more bases will bring in more gas, so more larvae can be dedicated to mutas. Again, there is no "constant stream" with zerg. You either have the gas/money and the larvae, or you don't. On 3 bases worth of gas, you can come close to producing mutas constantly out of ONE hatch.

snow2.0

Germany2073 Posts

March 09 2011 19:39 GMT

#768

Simple Zerg question:
Do you have to tech to lair units and/or build a macro hatch (or multiple) to spend your money on a fully saturated base?

I've only played about 5 (custom/practice) games as zerg, but even when i'm sitting there just staring at the hatch to inject right on time and never get supply blocked, i dont seem to be able to rid myself of money on roaches and lings alone.

Clamps

66 Posts

March 09 2011 20:21 GMT

#769

On March 10 2011 04:39 snow2.0 wrote:
Simple Zerg question:
Do you have to tech to lair units and/or build a macro hatch (or multiple) to spend your money on a fully saturated base?

I've only played about 5 (custom/practice) games as zerg, but even when i'm sitting there just staring at the hatch to inject right on time and never get supply blocked, i dont seem to be able to rid myself of money on roaches and lings alone.

Yes.

MoreFaSho

United States1427 Posts

March 09 2011 20:26 GMT

#770

On March 10 2011 02:55 StormWeapon wrote:
Q: If I am going 6gate, what is a pretty reasonable/normal timing to be attacking on?

ASAP, the gates finishing is the beginning of your timing window.

Delarchon

Finland132 Posts

March 09 2011 20:52 GMT

#771

If zerg goes 15hatch in pvz is it still viable to block the ramp with pylons now that you need 3 instead of 2 when cannon rushing?
And if it's better to cannon the mineral line how many cannons and pylons should you make?

When facing a MMM ball with templars is it ever better to feedback the medivacs instead of storming the bio?

CookieMaker

Canada880 Posts

March 09 2011 21:09 GMT

#772

On March 10 2011 05:52 Delarchon wrote:
If zerg goes 15hatch in pvz is it still viable to block the ramp with pylons now that you need 3 instead of 2 when cannon rushing?
And if it's better to cannon the mineral line how many cannons and pylons should you make?

When facing a MMM ball with templars is it ever better to feedback the medivacs instead of storming the bio?

a) (from a Z perspective) No, anyone who sees pylons in/around their base immediately (or should) drops a roach warren and saves larvae for roaches (which can hit the pylons from the top of the ramp. Thats now 300 minerals you've dumped into pylons (and at LEAST 150 into offensive cannons) that you will invariably lose and against players who know how to respond correctly you are at BEST going to kill their expo hatch (which only cost 300) before your cannons/pylons get overrun with roaches. Nobody cannon rushes with a ramp block anymore for this reason (too expensive/non-cost efficient against any roach response).

b) bes thing to do is go pylon-cannon-pylon to sandwich the cannon between two pylons behind the mineral line so drones/lings have to go through pylons to kill the cannon. If this goes unscouted before the sandwiching pylon finishes zerg HAS to cancel hatch or is gauranteed to lose it.

c)If you have enough energy for a feedback but not a storm (i.e. casted a storm, and only enough left for feedback), otherwise always storm when you have the energy.

Inschato

Canada1349 Posts

March 09 2011 21:49 GMT

#773

Q: Does a cloak banshee rush hit before 3rd/4th gates are being made? (As a 4gater) - And how quickly can I add on a stargate and/or robo (Or should I just all-in like the build is designed to do and hope he GGs before it kills my worker line/attack)