EPTAlso what is the best way to open in ZvP that is standard but also leaves a 21 drone roachling timing viable? I poke with 2 initial lings to look for signs of a fe but im sometimes saving larvae.
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AustinCM
Canada275 Posts
Also what is the best way to open in ZvP that is standard but also leaves a 21 drone roachling timing viable? I poke with 2 initial lings to look for signs of a fe but im sometimes saving larvae. | ||
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BioTech
Australia264 Posts
currently I select the rax and then press Y then click on the rax. | ||
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TheRealzz
150 Posts
Rally points - Should I rally to my units to main army and monitor that so that if my unit is killed it doesn't reset? Or should I set one outside base and grab add to group from here? Hatch / Pool builds I have been trying a 13 hatch in-base 15 pool not to great. Maybe im doing it wrong, anyways which is a very standard and fast gas openning ? 15p/14gas ? or 14p/14gas ? What I'm asking is which is the safest build I can open with everytime any match up as sometimes I am lazy and dun feel like hatching first, I use 15p/14gas currently Thank you for the help and sorry about my Engerish. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On July 20 2011 14:18 AustinCM wrote: is 15 hatch actually more solid than speedling expand? I feel that I want to go speedling expand and always be able to come out even, but i have heard that 15 hatch is superior? Also what is the best way to open in ZvP that is standard but also leaves a 21 drone roachling timing viable? I poke with 2 initial lings to look for signs of a fe but im sometimes saving larvae. In any scenario that you can get away with hatch-first you are in superior shape, in other words, if: ZvP: You fail to scout an opponent's canon rush or 2 rage proxy. ZvZ: Your opponent does a 10 pool, or earlier. In these scenarios you lose. I am of the belief that a 2rax is easier to hold with hatch-first rather than pool or gas first because of faster creep spread and additional larva, though I'm not sure about a proxy 2rax. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On July 20 2011 15:33 KimJongChill wrote: Is the best way to deal with early game stargate pressure, like 2 voids and some phoenix, a bunch of queens and spores, or do I really need hydras. How much does going hydras hurt, and is it still sensible to go an infestor tech path when being pressured by stargate? I personally prefer a roach/bane mid-game, so I'll just deflect the void ray with queens and spores and simply drop my opponent to death without even going for mobile anti-air (think mondragon). This is kinda gimmicky and fragile though. Other solutions are the sen style spire response, where you get enough corruptors out to deal with phoenixes, then overwhelm with mutalisks. Or the more standard response of getting queens/spores to defend, and as little hydras as possible so you can roach pressure while still being able to deal with the void, you would need drop for this, however, because strait pushing with slow, slow hydras is a bad idea in most cases. I think as long as you can somehow redeem the hydralisk investment by counter dropping with them then it isn't too much of a big deal (I don't even get hydra range as I don't think it is worth 150/150 when I'll only have around 8 hydras). Infestors are also a wonky solution but it certainty works. If you can fungal your opponent's void in a place where it will die then you'll be safe from air pressure, as the 1-2 void rays is part of the opening and protosses would much rather spend gas on other tech units. At this point you will be going for a midgame of either morrow style ling/baneling/infestor, or more traditional roach/infestor. Dealing with these kind of openers is very stylistic. You basically want to deal with it in a way that presents you your mid-game composition, rather than having a total shift of gears when the pressure is deflected. This is why hydras went out of style in dealing with this pressure, but you can still make it work. | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On July 20 2011 15:28 TheRealzz wrote: Hi Zerg here some quick questions : Rally points - Should I rally to my units to main army and monitor that so that if my unit is killed it doesn't reset? Or should I set one outside base and grab add to group from here? Hatch / Pool builds I have been trying a 13 hatch in-base 15 pool not to great. Maybe im doing it wrong, anyways which is a very standard and fast gas openning ? 15p/14gas ? or 14p/14gas ? What I'm asking is which is the safest build I can open with everytime any match up as sometimes I am lazy and dun feel like hatching first, I use 15p/14gas currently Thank you for the help and sorry about my Engerish. 1) I simply rally near where I'm attacking with a quick 5 click (5 being my all hatch hotkey). Also, while I'm producing units I like to hotkey them into their future control groups while their still eggs. For example, I'll hit 5 s hold down f, ctrl+click the eggs then shift+3, 5 s hold down r, ctrl+click the eggs then shift+2, 5 s hold down z, ctrl+click the eggs, then shift+1. This puts my re-enforcing lings into 1, roaches into 2, and infestors into 3 as soon as they will pop out. 14g/14p/15h is the standard speedling expand opening. | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On July 20 2011 15:26 BioTech wrote: is there a quicker way to turn off a rally point on your, say, rax? currently I select the rax and then press Y then click on the rax. You can just select the rax then right click it, which sets the rally point to the rax, disabling it. | ||
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PigglyWinks
364 Posts
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Tryxtira
Sweden572 Posts
On July 20 2011 19:01 PigglyWinks wrote: Just started playing, newb question: on the 2v2 maps used in the (current) 1v1 ladder pool, can the opponent spawn at any of the remaining three positions on every map? Or are there some maps where they can only spawn at any of the two positions on the other "side" (that would be the opposing team's side in a 2v2)? Currently on the ladder the opponent can spawn at any of the three locations. This has been hugely criticized by the community due to the obvious imbalances that certain positions lead to. In the Pro Leagues, the maps (Metalopolis for example) are changed so that close positions never happens. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On July 20 2011 21:07 Tryxtira wrote: Currently on the ladder the opponent can spawn at any of the three locations. This has been hugely criticized by the community due to the obvious imbalances that certain positions lead to. In the Pro Leagues, the maps (Metalopolis for example) are changed so that close positions never happens. This not entirely true, because there is one exception: on Shakuras, vertical spawns are disabled even on ladder. | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On July 20 2011 15:28 TheRealzz wrote: Hi Zerg here some quick questions : Rally points - Should I rally to my units to main army and monitor that so that if my unit is killed it doesn't reset? Or should I set one outside base and grab add to group from here? You can shift-queue rally commands. So you can shift-rally your hatches to several of the units in your army, increasing the chances of the rally coming through if some of your army dies. Alternatively, you can rally to some staging point and then shift-rally to your army. If the rally to your army fails due to death of the rallied units, the units will instead go to the staging point and stay there. | ||
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Semtext
Germany287 Posts
On July 13 2011 22:34 Blazinghand wrote: And to be clear; archons certainly do not friendly fire, either. and why is that so? why does the most nasty aoe spell in the game not firendly fire? (i am saying most nasty because you can run away from storms and cause them to backfiore if your opponent chases after too eager- and to early, which simply cannot happen with fungal. and yes, i do know a bout force field/storm combo and its nasty, but for the love of god, you at least need two different sorts of gas-heavy and fragile units to pull it off, while zerg just fungals away from 9 range... User was warned for this post | ||
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McPricE
58 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:15 McPricE wrote: Say when playing standardish Marine/Tank which is the better upgrade after finishing +1 attack, +1 armor or +2 attack? This is considering that we would have an armory naturally in our build before +1 attack finishes. You want +1 mech attack. From there it doesn't really matter. | ||
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galtdunn
United States977 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:15 McPricE wrote: Say when playing standardish Marine/Tank which is the better upgrade after finishing +1 attack, +1 armor or +2 attack? This is considering that we would have an armory naturally in our build before +1 attack finishes. It depends on your opponents unit composition. If he has fast-attacking units (ie zerglings), you want armor to reduce their damage by a significant percentage, possibly nullifying their +1. If you're against DPS heavy units like zealots/archons/banelings you probably want attack so you can kill them faster. However, if you're going to have the armory already, you might as well spring for a second engi bay and get both. Edit: Pros I watch often get +1 attack, then +1 armor, then start their armory, and then get their second engineering bay when the armory is about half done. Then they start 2-2 at the same time. | ||
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PenguinFancier
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Is is bm for me to say gg to an opponent in chat after he leaves the game without gging? I had figured that it was okay to gg as the winner, so long as it wasn't preemptive. I just want to be nice.  | ||
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galtdunn
United States977 Posts
On July 21 2011 00:19 PenguinFancier wrote: Ok, here's my question: Is is bm for me to say gg to an opponent in chat after he leaves the game without gging? I had figured that it was okay to gg as the winner, so long as it wasn't preemptive. I just want to be nice. This is generally considered very BM. If your opponent left without GGing he was likely upset about the loss, and you GGing is just rubbing it in his face. There will be the few players who don't take it that way but the general rule is that that is BM. My policy is to do it if the opponent does a cheesy/all-in strategy and then leaves if I crush him later. I don't doubt your intentions, but if you did it to me I'd either block communication, or slew vicious insults at you and then block communication. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2594 Posts
On July 21 2011 00:19 PenguinFancier wrote: Ok, here's my question: Is is bm for me to say gg to an opponent in chat after he leaves the game without gging? I had figured that it was okay to gg as the winner, so long as it wasn't preemptive. I just want to be nice. Just sending 'gg' will probably come across as rude. If I really feel like a game was good and want to compliment my opponent, I'll usually send a message like "that was great ling control, gg!" That makes it clear that you're being sincere. I usually wouldn't send that to an opponent who didn't gg after a good fight, since that kind of ticks me off. Edited to add: By the way, the correct response to players who bitch about the matchup and then leave without gging is "lol, gg." | ||
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