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Australia3 Posts
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Aratan
United States90 Posts
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iChau
United States1210 Posts
On January 19 2011 08:16 SuNSeT(OD) wrote: I still don't understand why people say mule is OP...it is needed to compete with chrono boosted nexus's...and the cool down time...it takes 50 energy to call down a mule as it is. The only way your going to be able to call down 10 is if you do the 4OC build vs Z, and that build although fun can be very detrimental to winning a match. The only problem is that Terran's are using almost half of their SCV's just to add to their army knowing their economy won't be hurt. SCV's can become very good meat-shields and can so repair if needed, unlike probes or drones. Using SCV's just for an all-in doesn't sound right to me, but it's a game, I guess. | ||
bahl sofs tiil
United States233 Posts
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GypsyBeast
Canada630 Posts
On a more serious note this build has been floating around for awhile now, so it's not "crazy" at all. it gets fucked in the ass hard by stargate play which is getting even more popular. | ||
jacosajh
2919 Posts
But I guess since you said this was an all-in, we can't really discuss this in the same way we should discuss a normal build order / strategy. Since this seems to punish a very greedy Protoss, it'll help to have it in the bag to keep them honest. On January 19 2011 10:14 Skepticism wrote: This looks very, very similar to the TvP build used by Janook vs Liquid`Tyler in the SCRI. If you came across it independently though OP, grats to you, it seems pretty strong. No idea how I'd stop it but I'm terrible, so there you go :p http://www.justin.tv/screddit/b/277688512 I honestly don't know why Nony allowed his Colossus to be raped by 250mm. I can understand the Immortals getting 250mm'ed because they have short range, but Thermal Lance colossus have what, 9 range compared to Thor's 7? For a little while, it seemed like he was going to win that battle, until the 250mm killed both Colossus, so maybe he got a little overconfident when he saw that after winning that battle, he would've killed a ton of SCVs. If he had kept those Colossus alive, he would've won IMO. Colossus can kite Thors all day long, not to mention that he was reinforcing his army pretty well for a while there. The Colossus was not only doing damage, and putting pressure on the Thors to chase them, but they would've helped to kill the repairing SCVs. I'm a Terran player, but that made me sad for Nony. | ||
GoAudio
Sweden400 Posts
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bobucles
410 Posts
When all is said and done, why shouldn't you have SCVs in your army? Bring in the mech medics! | ||
Aragos
France182 Posts
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On January 19 2011 07:55 link0 wrote: This all-in is actually very weak becomes it comes SOOOO SLOW. The FE toss will have a HUGE army advantage over you by the time you attack. It has virtually zero chance of beating a decent toss that spends all of his money. Although I agree with you, I think the strenght "could" lie within the metagame-effect a starport with techlab has. If you manage to get the raven out before the observer spots the armory, there's a MASSIVE chance the toss will get stargate and phoenixes. At least yesterday this is exactly what Mana did in one of his streamed games, where he crushed a timing push that consisted of a different composition. | ||
whojohnisgalt
93 Posts
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Raiznhell
Canada786 Posts
Also this is a strategy not a tactic. | ||
eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On January 19 2011 03:25 jamesmax wrote: lol, isnt there enough all in pushes? can't we work on things that make the game enjoyable =[ couldnt agree more. -.- and i play terran and even if it wins games i would probably never use it for that reason. | ||
Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
I don't play that style much but when I try it sometimes I often win I think terran is probably OP. Didn't see myself typing this a while back since i'm terran only but it seems this way. Not trying to start a balance discussion I'm just trying to express how strong I think these builds are I'm pretty certain terran will do fine on bigger maps, just bring back old medivac speed if they don't. | ||
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LaserTurken
Sweden17 Posts
watchout for swedish BM, joked around with the guy! | ||
Tomtaietot
Romania57 Posts
IF i buy a new game - and start playing toss - tommorow (i played random 4 months on beta) - then - after a couple of weeks - i get diamond over 2500 points ( add new bonus pool) - just and ONLY PLAYING 4 GATE ! --------------------------------- Anyway - this is a great tactic - nowadays i'm so BORED of mmm and vikings - this is really new - and IT REALLY works vs all >2500 diamond toss. The SINGLE problem is this - scouting if he has DT ... u gotta have the feeling ![]() | ||
nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On January 19 2011 11:44 iChau wrote: The only problem is that Terran's are using almost half of their SCV's just to add to their army knowing their economy won't be hurt. SCV's can become very good meat-shields and can so repair if needed, unlike probes or drones. Using SCV's just for an all-in doesn't sound right to me, but it's a game, I guess. If it's an all-in, why shouldn't you use the scv's? If you fail you won't need them anyway. | ||
Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On January 19 2011 02:55 Mr_Wo_Ot wrote: That build may make kaoz with them. This realy made me laugh. Im not sure, but I feel like this build should have some trouble with protoss early pressure ? Like 4 gate etc? | ||
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