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poooniggins
Profile Joined November 2010
1 Post
January 05 2011 07:37 GMT
#101
Low Diamond T(1500)

Two strategies come to mind that were not mentioned in the previous posts:
I have tried neither of these strategies; if anyone has actual info on their viability please share.

1.
you see drone rush coming, cancel rax. load a single scv into command center. lift to island expansion. run the other scvs around without losing any -- the goal with these is to deny the zerg player the ability to return to his hatch and mine. given you should be at even or near even count (if you have a fast enough reaction time to avoid losing the building scv) you should be on even footing for this battle. the zerg should respond by killing your isolated supply depot, but this can be rebuilt with the mineral excess at island. ultimately you should be able to land with your single worker and generate a small economy while denying his.

2. see drone rush coming, cancel rax, lift command center. float command center to your ramp. land either above or below the ramp, forming a smaller choke for your scv's to fight in. here the repair mechanic should be particularly effective, and you might be able to pull a few workers off to mine. the zerg would obviously be trying to interrupt the landing sequence. this however would force them to follow your command center giving you additional flexibility that you might be able to turn into an advantageous choke and the win.

Kisezik
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia70 Posts
January 05 2011 07:48 GMT
#102
This build is so fail, i play at around the 2700 diamond level, and many zergs have tried this against me on Steppes of war. None of them have succeeded. The key is to cancel ur barracks and stall as long as u can, and build scvs, because they are supply blocked and ur not.
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 09:45:56
January 05 2011 09:44 GMT
#103
On January 05 2011 16:02 P00RKID wrote:
What happens to the 12drone rush when T proxies their first rax? Or if the T builds the first rax at the back of their base? Will drones till be able to take out the building scv in time?
I think the problem with your line of thinking is that when the drones arrive, you probably still have like 40 seconds left on the rax building time and almost no minerals in the bank. Meaning that if you let the rax continue building, not only will your fighting scvs lose(not enough total scvs), you will only be able to afford a single marine once the rax actually finishes. That's if the drones haven't actually killed the constructing scv by then.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
STALLONEZONE
Profile Joined December 2010
Ireland115 Posts
January 05 2011 09:58 GMT
#104
On January 05 2011 14:53 Jermstuddog wrote:
I just did this in a clan tryout and won with it.

They told me I'm very BM and not fit for their clan.

gg playing to win!


"cheesing is bm"
3000ish Diamond Player. Want to practive *vZ or need help Zv* on EU? Add me: STALLONEZONE 309
Tsabo
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation266 Posts
January 05 2011 16:53 GMT
#105
On January 05 2011 18:58 STALLONEZONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 14:53 Jermstuddog wrote:
I just did this in a clan tryout and won with it.

They told me I'm very BM and not fit for their clan.

gg playing to win!


"cheesing is bm"


Making someone ZvT on SoW for a clan tryout is bm. xD
michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
January 06 2011 23:50 GMT
#106
On January 05 2011 02:40 boblzer0 wrote:
how about lift the cc and go kill his hatch with your svcs haha. if he follows you just make more svcs and mine.


that's absolutely brilliant.

On Steppes, you could easily take all your SCV and right click them to his base. They hve to chase, and meanwhile you take corner and start mining again. Even if you a move to army trade, you're still mining so you win.

As someone who likes to 12DR on steppes sometimes, I think that is a great idea.


Now, if you just lift to island and try to drone trade though I think you'd lose, but if you don't give zerg the option to retreat and mine, I think you win.
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palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
January 07 2011 01:18 GMT
#107
I wall at the base of my ramp whenever I get a TvZ.

Of course cancelling the unfinished rax is the key to holding this off, whilst not losing the SCV building it.
oyoyo
fdsdfg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1251 Posts
January 12 2011 04:57 GMT
#108
I tested this replay with qxc twice and he held it off pretty handily.

It might just be my micro, but there's no reason one race should be able to get a superior surround on the other, and we engaged pretty evenly.

He just cancelled the rax and had scv's repairing in the back.

Guess this can be held off.

[url blocked]

Sorry for megaupload, but gamereplays doesn't seem to be compatible with replays from the new patch yet.
aka Siyko
yeahsc2
Profile Joined January 2011
Serbia38 Posts
January 12 2011 05:04 GMT
#109
Well, i hava expirienced this couple of time (i`m terran), and a little change is..
since msot terrans wall of, just send your sccv taht is building depot to scout if you see drones, just bring one more scv to complete the wall with depot (assuming you build the rax at the ramp.)
BTW, i always won when zerg did this to me
GL terrans
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