I play Protoss, but this Chart u made, legen...... dary! Just hope not many Zerg reading this post. So some Protoss TL Staff should close this one pretty fast !

zink0

New Zealand17 Posts

November 18 2010 22:51 GMT

#23

After lurking on TL since beta, I have finally decided to make an account, to say:

Thanks, sweet guide! It is really helping my understanding of unit composition, timing, tech and macro.

I started using zerg 2 weeks ago and I am improving my general mechanics but often get a sense of "Yes i should be injecting larvae and scouting, but where should I actually be taking this game? What should I be building and when?".

Would you consider writing one for ZvT and ZvZ?

Wooo first post!

Hobokinz

United States126 Posts

November 18 2010 22:55 GMT

#24

You sir are a gentlemen. <3

Vandroy

Sweden155 Posts

November 18 2010 22:59 GMT

#25

very well-written guide, great work!

TrueRedemption

United States313 Posts

November 18 2010 23:02 GMT

#26

Amazing job, enjoyed every bit of it, despite how much harder it'll make ladder in the near future. Great work =)

Arn

Sweden118 Posts

November 18 2010 23:11 GMT

#27

Awesome guide from my impressions of it! I still haven't got around to try it though, sorry.

To people on TeamLiquid: Listen to this guy, he is not only an awesome player but has great game understanding aswell. Of course there might be some flaw or someone who would critizise the analysis from one point of view or another, but I doubt it is way off. There're always different opinions though, and people will have to try and understand for themselves.

To "Zerg-LegenD": I like your TL nickname, haha! And I look forward to see the guide analyzed from more points of view. Oh, and thanks for all the random advice us zergs in Property Clan get occasionally, they really help in the long run.

I may return after I've done some testing.

QuakerOats

United States1024 Posts

November 18 2010 23:31 GMT

#28

Holy shit yes... Your 3 hatch muta guide helped me so much when I first started learning BW. The skill gap between us isn't as large this time around but I'm sure this will help me a ton. Thanks!

Antisocialmunky

United States5912 Posts

November 18 2010 23:35 GMT

#29

This is basically Legendary. More post like this plz.

Kiarip

United States1835 Posts

November 18 2010 23:43 GMT

#30

I really wish more zergs went gas-pool against me.

QQtip

Sweden7 Posts

November 19 2010 00:33 GMT

#31

Great guide! Thanks alot

ChickenLips

2912 Posts

November 19 2010 01:13 GMT

#32

This is a great guide and I would totally give you a blowjob, should you decide to write one on ZvZ since pretty much everyone is clueless on that matchup.

However i don't agree with the speedling opener. It is only favorable on small maps. On big maps I can easily go 13 pool 16 hatch or 14 hatch 14 pool, 2 of the most economic builds that offer solid early defense if i scout early agression. With an early hatch like that i can drone until 30 off of 4 lings and then decide if i want to make units against a 4 gate. A good 4 gate hits at a time where the speedling opener's hatch is too weak for my taste. Since you invest in tech and units so early on the period of time where you can drone until the 1 base all in hits is significantly shorter than if you went for a economical build. Those extra few drones you can afford with f.e. a 14 hatch 14 pool are detrimental to be able to enter mid game with a solid drone count.

johanngrunt

Hong Kong1555 Posts

November 19 2010 03:33 GMT

#33

Very nice build, I've already been having problems against Zerg, and I think PvZ is about the hardest matchup now.

This guide is about on par with Plexa's PvZ guide, if not better, good job!

Nobu

Spain550 Posts

November 19 2010 03:46 GMT

#34

Very nice post! A very nice write-up, a lot of reasearch time and data exposed in a very understandable way, and the "ZvP for dummies" flow chart is very nice too.
Great work and thx so much, ZvP is my worst MU, i will get a lot of info here