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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 01:36 GMT
#101
On October 02 2010 16:30 AnAngryDingo wrote:
Artosis, thank you for the effort you've been putting into the community, it is much appreciated.

One specific question I have is this:

is terran bio play more standard on the KOR server? I watched 5 or 6 of the replays, and In all of them, the terran went with MMM as the core of his army. This is disappointing to me because I'm having much more trouble with mech-play, specifically the mass thor/hellion 2 base timing push before I can get hive tech, seems like whatever I throw at it just melts. Are you going to put up any replays of you going against mech?


I haven't hit much mech at all recently. bio mech is/has been much more popular on the korean server. I think there is a replay in there of me hitting a hellion/thor timing push which i didn't scout because of early harassment via vikings. I ended up fungaling his army and attacking it with hydras several times. Hydras outrange hellions by 1, so if you control right, you might be able to fight it off with this strategy. normally i would suggest pure roach vs it though, if you know its coming.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 01:37 GMT
#102
On October 02 2010 17:36 Devlin wrote:
Artosis:

I have watched all three of your ZvP's on Steppes of War so far, but I'm afraid I can't continue watching your replays until I get some clarification.

In all three games, you have viciously and brutally slaughtered the Panda Bear Guy. Why are you killing him? Why? Is it out of hatred for the Panda Bear Guy race? Do you want his children to starve? You want them to grow up, fueled by hatred towards the Zerg race for what you have done to their father? Who's gonna bring home the grass to the younglings now?! This brings back horrible memories from the slaughter on Andromeda. We do not want history to repeat itself!

I demand clarification!


lol...it catches my eye on the minimap all the time, so i always kill it, along with any other critters in sc2.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 01:43 GMT
#103
On October 02 2010 18:09 Patriot.dlk wrote:
You need like at least 3 more stars. Every thread you make is amazing I am a huge fan of your work as a reporter/caster and I love that you are a competitive player as well :D

I watched one game but no more time right now because it's time to watch you live in HQ !! =)

I started watching the zvt in order the first game was against BlueK. At the point when you had the gold soon to be mined out you had a hatchery with no workers for a while at the expand to the right of the gold.

Were you aware of this in the game? Looks like you maxed out in units and had no room for additional drones almost..

And why did you win? Were did he drop the ball? Trying to learn what to do in those situations I really hate ultras lol.


Well, I was a bit distracted. That was teh first time I've tried that strategy, and BlueK is actually quite good. I'm not 100% sure what he did wrong, as I did a lot wrong as well. Infestors are so good in a long game, I think I just whittled him down. Almost lost that one. Also, dropping on the tanks cost him far too much.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 03 2010 01:44 GMT
#104
Heh, I haven't gotten Sc2 yet (retard computer) and I don't follow the game much, but I still feel the urge to thank you for this. You're awesome. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 01:45 GMT
#105
On October 02 2010 19:32 Khaymus wrote:
Artosis

I am currently watching you cast for the GSL final. I am dreaming about you nightly and sometimes feel that my day is not complete without listening to your voice.

Q1: Will you have my babies
Q2 (the serious question I have): Do you have anyone Air Force guys come to any of the events? I am trying to get stationed in Korea so that I can go to all of the finals and watch SC live in Korea. Just wondering if this is something alot of AF members know about, or if I will be going there alone ><

Thaniks for the replay pack and of course all of the great content you always release!


Q1. sry im not ready for such a commitment, thx tho thats sweet of u.
Q2. AF guys normally don't come, no. The AF base is south of seoul by a bit, kind of annoying to travel up here i guess. but there are always some non korean guys, and definitely army people show up sometimes.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 01:45 GMT
#106
On October 02 2010 22:04 sputnik.theory wrote:
Question: did you listen to the latest state of the game podcast with idra?


nope, but i did see that hillarious video lolol.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51478 Posts
October 03 2010 05:40 GMT
#107
eta on next pack? d;
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DaRAGE
Profile Joined September 2010
15 Posts
October 03 2010 06:06 GMT
#108
that zvt kulas ravine one was good.
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
October 03 2010 06:48 GMT
#109
Fantastic Artosis... Thanks for not forgetting the community even with all of your other stuff going on.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
antz0r
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia168 Posts
October 03 2010 07:12 GMT
#110
That was beautiful play thankyou so much.

q1. Do you ever have trouble with terran bioballs anymore with this creep spread hydra infestor ultra path?
q2. Have people gone ghosts vs your infestors yet? Does it make much of a difference?
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 07:19 GMT
#111
On October 03 2010 14:40 GTR wrote:
eta on next pack? d;


dunno, if ppl want one, ill release another after playing enough good games.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 07:20 GMT
#112
On October 03 2010 16:12 antz0r wrote:
That was beautiful play thankyou so much.

q1. Do you ever have trouble with terran bioballs anymore with this creep spread hydra infestor ultra path?
q2. Have people gone ghosts vs your infestors yet? Does it make much of a difference?


Q1. if its just bio, no. if its bio mech, yeah.

Q2. yeah i've had a few people do that so far. i dunno didn't make a huge difference in my eyes but they weren't used that well i guess.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Ziggitz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 07:44:07
October 03 2010 07:30 GMT
#113
I can't believe I didn't know that creep tumors can spawn an extra one. That alone will push me into platinum at the rate my games are going now.

In the second game where you got cannoned in, you sent your scouting overlords off with spawn creep on, is this to prevent the protoss from putting an expansion down until he's shooed the overlord away? If this is correct would you just use lings against a zerg player instead or just turn off the ability?
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 07:33 GMT
#114
On October 03 2010 16:30 Ziggitz wrote:
I can't believe I didn't know that creep tumors can spawn an extra one. That alone will push me into platinum at the rate my games are going now.

In the second game where you got cannoned in, you sent your scouting overlords off with spawn creep on, is this to prevent the protoss from putting an expansion down until he's shooed the overlord away? If this is correct would you just use lings against a zerg player instead or just turn off the ability?


yes its to stop him from making stuff. i dont understand the second question.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
divadretrac
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom36 Posts
October 03 2010 07:36 GMT
#115
Ty keep up the awesome work.
Wales
Eazypeezy
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada54 Posts
October 03 2010 09:56 GMT
#116
Thanks alot for doing this Artosis, a 2nd replay pack is a good idea. my question is for ZvP. I find that Protoss gives me more trouble than Terran. Im never really completely sure of what to do. Here are some scenarios.
Q1- if the Protoss player goes for a 4gate that is really zelot/sentry heavy will you get roaches? or stick with a ling/hydra?
Q2- I always loose when the protoss player stalls his 4gate push until he has 2-3 collosus then grabs an expansion and pushes out. i dont think lings/Hydras alone can stop this. Should i just scout better and get a spire for corruptors or fast tech to ultras?
Q3- I guess overall im just unsure of the best way to deal with collosus timing pushes, do you have anything that you think works well? and lastlly do you prefer Hydra play over Mutas? I almost feel if i went Muta/ ling It would be easier to deal with the collosus
fucken eh
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 03 2010 11:54 GMT
#117
On October 03 2010 18:56 Eazypeezy wrote:
Thanks alot for doing this Artosis, a 2nd replay pack is a good idea. my question is for ZvP. I find that Protoss gives me more trouble than Terran. Im never really completely sure of what to do. Here are some scenarios.
Q1- if the Protoss player goes for a 4gate that is really zelot/sentry heavy will you get roaches? or stick with a ling/hydra?
Q2- I always loose when the protoss player stalls his 4gate push until he has 2-3 collosus then grabs an expansion and pushes out. i dont think lings/Hydras alone can stop this. Should i just scout better and get a spire for corruptors or fast tech to ultras?
Q3- I guess overall im just unsure of the best way to deal with collosus timing pushes, do you have anything that you think works well? and lastlly do you prefer Hydra play over Mutas? I almost feel if i went Muta/ ling It would be easier to deal with the collosus


Q1. That's a really good question. Both can work. Roach should be a better choice in this case, but make sure you have some spine crawlers as well.

Q2. Normally you won't get the Ultras in time. Corrupters can definitely help in holding the first push. Hydra/ling will get pwned, if you want to make ground units, make sure u have some roaches.

Q3. Colossus timings are the hardest thing for zerg at the moment. Nothing works too well. Mutas can pwn it, but just a standard timing attack off 2 base pure warpgate is VERY hard to hold with mutas.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
qtpie
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada16 Posts
October 03 2010 11:54 GMT
#118
On October 02 2010 07:18 eNbee wrote:
Artosis, biological, not bionic, please! or just say bio

<3



(completely offtopic, sorry)



i thought bionic meant biomech D:
SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 13:04:25
October 03 2010 13:01 GMT
#119
Wow I didn't know you were this good. It's nice to get some replays of the "new Zerg" style of play that I can study myself. I thought I'd have to wait until Cool's replays from GSL were available.

Also, it seems like Overlord drops are just.. straight up counter to tank/mech based armies because of lack of mobility. Do you think this will be the new norm? A counter not by units but by a tactic.

edit: I mean sneaky Overlord drops into the enemy's base
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 03 2010 13:20 GMT
#120
On October 03 2010 16:19 Artosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 14:40 GTR wrote:
eta on next pack? d;


dunno, if ppl want one, ill release another after playing enough good games.

yep, we want, i tried the build out against top terrans from my country and worked really well, even against pure mech. I'd like to see a lot more of it, i couldnt help but notice many of your opponents were kind of newbie, so i'd like to see that inf-hdyra build put into pratice against more gamers.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
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