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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
October 07 2010 18:50 GMT
#221
Just saw this topic, and already finished watching a zvp on lost temple versus nadir. I'm still not sure how you survived that lol, I think I would have left after my hatch died. (the army values at the start of that fight were so one sided in his favor!)

As for questions that i've had on my mind... what do you do versus opponents who open with blind phoenixs into collossi/hts if they see you switch to ground/ go hydras from the start?

How many drones is good number for a game? I tend to stop at around 70ish, not for any specific reason and I don't count them,it just "feels" like enough and I stop. Then afterwards I notice it was around 70. I'm sure i'll find this out after watching some more replays, but some times people don't do what they know is best in game.

Best way to deal with the garbage that is two pylons 1 cannon at the bottom of your ramp? Currently i've been trying to place a spine crawler nearby, but that delays your expo for years.

Lastly, a question that probably can't be answered so I won't hope for one, but I've been getting owned by my terran practice partner, whos army comp is: marine, tank, thor and medivac. I've had no answer for it at all so far. He puts down a command center when his first reactored hellions get made to harass, he'll get a few then lift it off and make tanks/thors out of it while reactoring marines.

Not expecting an answer for that last one, but it's just something that's been destroying me as of late and I don't know what to do about it. If anyone in general who reads this has encountered this and destroyed it, i'd be happy to watch your replay/hear how you did it.

back to watching more of your replays!


Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
October 09 2010 13:38 GMT
#222
Watched a few and was wondering why Artosis doesn't hotkey Queens?
Island
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden22 Posts
October 10 2010 08:59 GMT
#223
The answer is "because that's how he does it". It's what he likes, therefore that's what he does.
deathserv
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
October 11 2010 23:11 GMT
#224
Hey Artosis, big thanks from a grateful semi-scrubby Zerg nerd here (Rank 15~20 Diamond). I will be reviewing all of these replays and then posting again if I have any questions that haven't been addressed yet. Thanks so much!

Also, as an aside, great job casting the GSL, you and Tasteless do a very nice job. Very lively commentary and you enunciate clearly.
Bowdy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States232 Posts
October 11 2010 23:19 GMT
#225
Hey artosis, 2 questions.

1) You mentioned and I've heard many others mention (day9, idra, etc.) that the most important thing to understand is economy based rts fundamentals. Well, none of you have ever even tried to explain what some of them are? I'm a fairly competent player simply because I have pretty fast hands (was a progamer before switching to sc2) and can out macro lots of opponents, but I admit I have tons to learn in good expansion timings (right now I just expand a ton and hope for the best) and being aggressive (I'm zerg so it's tough to be aggressive, but I'm REALLY passive, all my games end with me on like 5 bases and 200/200 food with almost zero pressure in return). Could you outline some of these fundamentals or point me in the right direction for my learning process?

2) I've gotten good at defending the classic 2 pylon at your ramp cannon contain v. protoss, but recently lost a few games to cannon "pushes" placed elsewhere. I know ideally the best thing to do is scout it and kill it, but when I only have 12 drones and 2 overlords, it's tough to be everywhere at once. So ignoring the "stop it before it happens" what do you do when it DOES happen? I've tried one base hydra and just didnt have enough stuff, and I managed to sneak an expo and get 10 mutas out, went straight for his base and he had just as many pheonixes. Any suggestions?
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tieya
Profile Joined September 2010
United States308 Posts
October 11 2010 23:47 GMT
#226
thanks artosis, always enjoy your replay pakcs
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 22:23:42
October 12 2010 22:22 GMT
#227
On October 10 2010 17:59 Island wrote:
The answer is "because that's how he does it". It's what he likes, therefore that's what he does.

Yeah, but Artosis is a good player so wouldn't he want to use every shortcut possible. When I was watching his replays I was wondering "Is there a hotkey to select all your Queens like Protoss have with Warpgates?" The only time so far I've seen him hotkey Queens was to deal with a banshee harass.

Though I suppose his way of dealing with it is just that he hotkeys every hatchery individually.
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
October 12 2010 22:39 GMT
#228
Zerg builds on Jungle, GO! I can't think of anything that's viable against a fast expansion (both vs T and P), normally I'd take a fast 3rd but there's no 3rd base on this map, as far as I can see there are only 4 bases total on it. So what 2-base builds are there, drop/nydus?
Kaavak
Profile Joined September 2010
Japan2 Posts
October 27 2010 20:18 GMT
#229
On October 08 2010 03:50 Let it Raine wrote:

Lastly, a question that probably can't be answered so I won't hope for one, but I've been getting owned by my terran practice partner, whos army comp is: marine, tank, thor and medivac. I've had no answer for it at all so far. He puts down a command center when his first reactored hellions get made to harass, he'll get a few then lift it off and make tanks/thors out of it while reactoring marines.

Not expecting an answer for that last one, but it's just something that's been destroying me as of late and I don't know what to do about it. If anyone in general who reads this has encountered this and destroyed it, i'd be happy to watch your replay/hear how you did it.


Hey, just saw your question. I'm not an expert, but just wondering if you tried ling/bling/muta combo for his comp mix. Usually works pretty well for me, key is to scout with the OL early and make sure he's really getting the mix of MM. Then you can grab some ling/bling for a push or even just to route him while you tech up to lair.

Not sure if this helps at all since I'm not Artosis lol! gl
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