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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
November 23 2010 23:08 GMT
#61
A 12 drone rush is pretty obnoxious to deal with as it'll have 12 drones in your base while you're just about to throw down your Rax. At this time the Terran will only have 11 SCV's, making a direct battle an almost certain loss. Cancelling the rax and running away till you can get more SCV's out seems to be the best bet, hiding a rax migh also be viable. If you get drone-rushed on a map with an island your opponent is an idiot.
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
November 23 2010 23:20 GMT
#62
For a second I completely LOL'ed, a DRONE RUSH, really? And you're having trouble holding it off TvZ?

Then I realized this was SC2
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orotoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States298 Posts
November 23 2010 23:30 GMT
#63
SCVs are stronger than drones


Not necessarily. With even amounts of drones and scvs on a-move, the drones will usually win because they regenerate, so it takes one extra hit to kill them. However, with micro, the scvs will always win because of auto-repair.
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Zorrm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
November 23 2010 23:33 GMT
#64
On September 28 2010 03:58 ahcho00 wrote:
against zerg u can rax first. how many works does he bring in?

You need a supply depot first...
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Warp
Profile Joined August 2010
United States166 Posts
November 24 2010 00:53 GMT
#65
On September 28 2010 04:27 ahcho00 wrote:
if it's 45 seconds...he'll have at most 10 drones because the OL takes 20 seconds to make. a supply build with scvs picking drones off as they come in should be fine.

who the hell rushes in 45 seconds with drones?...i think 45 seconds is an exaggeration.


No one has touched on this topic yet and i'd like to clarify a few things.

The reason why ZERG is the race to attack is because of their larva ability. You've probably heard about the famous Pennoyer, the random bronze player who 6 worker rushed every single game. The obvious problem with a worker rush is that by the time you are at your opponents base, they will severely out number your workers.

Well with zerg, there is something called the 12 worker rush that narrows the worker differential. Think of the following BO:

10/10 extractor
9/10 drone
10/10 extractor
9/10 drone
10/10 cancel
11/10 cancel

Basically a double extractor trick will allow a zerg player to make a ridiculous amount of drones..

The final attack will result in 12 drones to 14-15 workers instead of 6 drones to 9-10 workers. Basically the worker ratio is cut down from 2:3 to 4:5.

With good micro, and taking in consideration that its the lower leagues, any non-zerg race would have trouble defending this rush, even on steppes.
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Mczeppo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany319 Posts
November 26 2010 01:01 GMT
#66
what if you just go counterattack with all your scvs to buy time? Ofc he cant lift his hatchery so he has to defend... He has to start chasing your scvs around! Then you can start pumping more scvs without any trouble... If he leaves 1or 2 drones in your base you can fight the rest of his drones elsewhere and win easily. If he doesnt chase your scvs just attack his hatchery and lift your cc.

I try to avoid that close micro battle... Maybe thats a way to buy time and to get an even safer win.

You can maybe get that one marine aout that will help so much or you can cancel the rax to get money for more scvs while running away from his drones... In theory it should work but i havent had someone to try it out. Only thing that has to be mentioned is that you will always suffer a few hits while running away from him because he can cut corners to reach your scvs

I definitely give that a try... It's pretty awkward losing to that and pretty annoying
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