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shutdown_exploded
Profile Joined June 2010
United States133 Posts
November 18 2010 07:12 GMT
#41
I think this thread is a non-issue, but it brings up something from the liquipedia article on the drone
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Drone

"A Drone is the strongest worker, meaning that a Drone can win in a fight verses the other races' workers even if the other worker attacks first."

explanation?
Kornholi0
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada634 Posts
November 18 2010 07:13 GMT
#42
if a zerg 6 drone rushes you, you can easily defend it, there really is no micro involved, if he starts focus firing one scv just pull it back get it to mine once or twice and get it into the fight again. If you can maintain one guy mining eventually you can build a barracks. Getting exactly 1 ranged unit glorifies your victory.
If this happens a lot to you in TvZ, get your supply depot beside your gas so the drones are tunneled. That way you can push them into a small corner and hit them from both sides. This of course sucks if he comes in with roaches or zerglings and doesn't cheese like that.
If he attacks with 7 drones then you've won the games hands down because he can't mine anything else.
Worker rushing sometimes is a legitimate strategy if you can stop your opponent from mining while you continue to macro. My friend is stuck in the bronze league because all he does is worker rush but wins half his games.
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Kornholi0
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada634 Posts
November 18 2010 07:15 GMT
#43
@shutdown_exploded, the reason a drone wins every single fight 1v1 is because they regenerate life. If they can get a probe under shield they automatically have the advantage, take a few hits get him low shield even if you can hit him once you just walk away and come back and do circles until your health is full. Which makes drones so annoying in TvZ when they attack your workers Cause us terrans are money whores and don't like to repair scvs.
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MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
November 18 2010 07:15 GMT
#44
Liquidpedia just had a big thing all about it. Go look it up and you will be enlightened!
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 18 2010 07:39 GMT
#45
On September 28 2010 04:36 trevf wrote:
side note: alt R is the hotkey for enabling auto repair.


probably the most constructive post in this thread. i didnt know about this before, thanks!
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quarkle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom92 Posts
November 18 2010 11:07 GMT
#46
On November 18 2010 16:12 shutdown_exploded wrote:
I think this thread is a non-issue, but it brings up something from the liquipedia article on the drone
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Drone

"A Drone is the strongest worker, meaning that a Drone can win in a fight verses the other races' workers even if the other worker attacks first."

explanation?


Its certainly not a non issue for the op or anyone else that's had to face this rush that's for sure i know exactly where he's coming from as i've also been rushed liked this several times and lost to it up until recently as much as it pains me to say so lol
I am amazed the amount of people here who have responded with totally useless information such as "build a supply depot and wall off". This rush happens way before that point.
Why so many people respond to a thread before reading it is beyond me.???

I think that danl9rm advice is probably the best strat to handle the rush ...the key is to attack move behind the drones rather than right clicking. i can confirm that it works.
As others have said pull back any scv's that are low on hp and keep your fingers crossed.
Don't be fooled just one or two slips can easily cost you the game on this rush
klauz619
Profile Joined July 2010
453 Posts
November 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#47
Drones regen hp so they actually last as long as SCVs.

Drones also have a better attack animation and is more effective attacking while on the move, however you DO have 2 more SCVs and more minerals, so uh, there's no reason you should be losing.
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
November 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#48
Step 1: Check Liquipedia
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Worker_Rush

Step 2: get a buddy to practice with
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139384

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Profit


Hope that helps, the liquipedia article really goes into a lot of detail.
caduceus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States11 Posts
November 19 2010 05:58 GMT
#49
If you're terran, I have a secret weapon for you. Your command center is a safe haven for SCV's.

Set your SCV's to auto-repair. Then put some in the command center. They will repair INSIDE the command center (assuming you have minerals, of course), and will be safe from attack. Pop them out when they're at full health and continue defending your base.

This also works in medivacs (can repair other units) and PF's later in the game, BTW.
yellowmoe
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada59 Posts
November 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#50
Don't feel too bad, Cella beats plat rank terrans using the drone rush.
TSM
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Great Britain584 Posts
November 19 2010 16:49 GMT
#51
kill as many drones as possible and then life to island if possible aor just fast wall in fast good idea in silver i found.
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SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
November 19 2010 16:56 GMT
#52
You should be starting your wall before they get there. As soon as you see them comming send 4 or five scvs to the ramp to block and defend and keep producing scvs with the income from the 2 or 3 mining scvs. If that fails load them up into your command center and land on an island and banshie rush them.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10331 Posts
November 23 2010 20:38 GMT
#53
At the puzzled people:

Remember, drones can heal. So if the T doesn't repair and just a-moves, the zerg will most likely win, because although drones have 40 hp and scvs 45, each drone will definitely heal at least 1 hp, making them like a 41 hp drone, which is the same as a 45 hp unit against an scv. With the addition of pulling back drones to have them heal to 46 and count as 50... you can win even if he has 1-2 more scvs. So yeah it's all about micro .

Also a nice trick to micro for the T is to also stay close in the CC, ideally surround the drones of course (in the mineral line) this way you can easily pull SCVs into the CC instead of having to run them back (and potentially get stuck by another unit and die)/
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OpAndroid
Profile Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
November 23 2010 21:17 GMT
#54
For everyone saying that drone rushes are the easiest thing in the world to hold off, I suggest you watch this:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zz19441rhaa8eb1

CellaWerra makes 10 drones, then double extractor tricks for 12 and rushes AhhBoxxah. I'm assuming all you people saying its the easiest thing in the world to hold off are all better than AhhBoxxah, on account of him losing it. :/
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
November 23 2010 21:26 GMT
#55
A-move ur scvs and u win.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
November 23 2010 21:34 GMT
#56
A-move ur scvs and u win.


mentioned... I think 5 times at least no you WONT win if you just "a move"
Yes it is pretty easy to hold - but not with a move
You have to repair your scv and have nearly the same micro as he has ( a surround would be great too)
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hyponikZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States61 Posts
November 23 2010 21:38 GMT
#57
highlight all of your scvs - press a and click near his drones - GG
cy@
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
November 23 2010 21:39 GMT
#58
On September 29 2010 05:29 fadestep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2010 03:54 motus wrote:
On September 28 2010 03:51 Klamity wrote:
I'm amazed at all of the serious responses to this.

The fact that it happened to the OP 3 times is even more shocking. Luckily, people can't stack in this game. :p

Just a-move your SCVs, they are stronger and pull back the ones that are hurt.


LOL yeah I don't get it either. It literally takes bronze-level micro to defend a drone rush against scvs.


You need no micro. All you have to do is a move. Hell, you could probably keep mining and win.



To all of you saying you need 'literally' a-move to win. Clearly no1 competent at micro'ing has done this to you. Your basing it off your experience of wat happens when you yourself do it, with sup-par micro and gets owned.

Drones are pretty even with scv's but with the bonus of hp regen. Good micro WILL kill all a-moving scv's.


Also, don't feel bad OP, pretty sure the opponent is probably DIAMOND portrait farming in the lower leagues. It DOES take some significant micro to beat a higher worker count.
Plonq
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia3 Posts
November 23 2010 21:42 GMT
#59
I happen to have a replay of me repelling a drone rush from when I got promoted out of silver. My strat was a little different from the others in that I focused on getting a marine out.

Hope this helps danfromwaterloo!

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=168218
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
November 23 2010 22:04 GMT
#60
That CellaWerra replay was so golden lol.
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