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kyouriharu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States9 Posts
October 05 2010 21:59 GMT
#301
Infestors can shoot Zombie Marines over a wall in.
erulabs
Profile Joined April 2010
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 22:02:26
October 05 2010 22:00 GMT
#302
This is outside of SC directly but... Maintain your health!

The only activity where I notice my recent eating/health habits as much as in SC is off road mountain bike riding. If I'm caffeinated up and low on protein my skill level drops wildly. My mother came into town and cooked me good food that lasted about a week, I jumped something like 300 points up from 1200->1500 diamond Z.

Of course, now that she went back home and I'm back to Ramen and Redbull, i'm back to my normal losing streaks

But yes, it's a bit weird for a video game, but I force myself not to ladder when I'm drunk/stoned/tired/hungry etc. Eat well, maintain your health and keep a good mood and you'll be -amazed- at how much better you play.

This really applies to everything in life, but let's be honest. No one wants to be in peak condition all day long. The couch and the TV have a sacred place in every westerners life
The high altitude bomber siren tolls for thee
Kikuichimonji
Profile Joined June 2010
United States102 Posts
October 06 2010 02:47 GMT
#303
On October 06 2010 04:25 Footloop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 04:06 Kikuichimonji wrote:
If you destroy the pylon where someone is warping in wg units the units are automatically cancelled (with 75% resources returned) and their production cycle is wasted.

No, it cancels the units but it also ends the warpgate's cooldown. I'm fairly sure it also returns 100% of the cost rather than 75%, but I'm not entirely certain.
Ah, sorry then.
instantdry
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada308 Posts
October 06 2010 03:10 GMT
#304
If you borrow a roach and double tap unborrow at a cliff, it will go up or down the cliff.
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
October 06 2010 05:19 GMT
#305
On October 06 2010 12:10 instantdry wrote:
If you borrow a roach and double tap unborrow at a cliff, it will go up or down the cliff.

Mind=Blown........

2 creep tumors are the most efficient number for spreading creep, more than that and your increase is nominal.

1 spine crawler, 1 queen and 4-8 lings will hold off almost all 2 gate pushes.

Zergling +1 atk reduces "hits to kill" on marauders by 7.

The longer a map is the better fast expanding is (this may seem obvious but may help zergs realize why they are losing more on smaller maps).

Here's an important one- 5 RR is flat out beat by 2 stargate VR (Like everytime I have ever gotten into that situation). The zerg push starts out very effective but won't be able to kill the toss opponent completely before the vr's pop up and then it takes about 90 secs to get proper AA to deal with the VR's.

Hydras have 80 hp which is equal to the notoriously weak sentry (40H and 40S).

2 base w/ 2 queens is outpaced by 3x reactor rax 2x rauder rax (which is 950 mins to zerg 900 spent). While this logic is flawed, it shows that 2 base T>>>> 2 base zerg and zerg expanding is dangerous because of lack of wall ins that other races have. fully populating the rax would take 1050min and 75g per minute. To go along w/ this rant mules are about as effective as 4x workers and the time on 50 energy is approx the same as the lifetime of mules (95 secs).

Hatcheries make 3x larvae in the time that vomit larvae gives you 4. Because of this I have been testing delaying queen production and 2 dudes off gas to get a quicker hatch (and making queens after the hatch is down).

velo
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia48 Posts
October 06 2010 05:38 GMT
#306
I remember when I worked out that queens could be used to spawn extra larvae on a hatchery... I was like WOAH! I have potential to produce soo many more units. I never played BW and this was pretty early on. I remember calling up a friend who's in diamond and told him about my amazing discovery, you can imagine his reaction.

Heaps of useful info in this thread!
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
October 06 2010 06:01 GMT
#307
I play T but decide to try Z since it seems really interesting, so i play and get surprise on how easy was to drone, and actually over did it, when my oponente when to atack i had like 10lings, 5 roaches and 4 hydras vs a colosi, 2 inmortals, 5 stalkers and a shit loat of zealots... Of course i add like 4 spineCrawlers and get more units asap, i losse my natural but had so many drones on my many(save most of the natural drones before it went down that after i fend of the atack at my main with the queens and the new units i was able to put my natural, a hatch on my main and saturate the natural just at it finish, Make units hard and rape the P...

I learn i must no drone whore to hard, but if i manage to save the drones after i losse a hatch i can still come back XD
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
twoliveanddie
Profile Joined January 2010
United States2049 Posts
October 06 2010 07:13 GMT
#308
everyone who posted a technique that was new to someone else probably wishes they were in a game against that person.
Fyro
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada123 Posts
October 06 2010 07:21 GMT
#309
On October 06 2010 12:10 instantdry wrote:
If you borrow a roach and double tap unborrow at a cliff, it will go up or down the cliff.


Can you explain this some more?

i can't get it to work
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
October 06 2010 07:25 GMT
#310
On September 22 2010 00:04 TheFinalWord wrote:
You can hold down a hotkey instead of spamming it.


Wait... what? :O

I'm 1200 diamond Zerg and I didn't know this :D
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
October 06 2010 07:32 GMT
#311
On October 06 2010 16:25 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 00:04 TheFinalWord wrote:
You can hold down a hotkey instead of spamming it.


Wait... what? :O

I'm 1200 diamond Zerg and I didn't know this :D

I use this all the time to spawn drone 11 and 12. If you 9OL you will have a bit more than 100 minerals when the overlord pops. So if you hold down the button when the overlord is about to spawn, you'll have great timing.
One trick I learned here is to turn up your repeat if you use the "hold-down" thing a lot.

On October 06 2010 16:21 Fyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 12:10 instantdry wrote:
If you borrow a roach and double tap unborrow at a cliff, it will go up or down the cliff.


Can you explain this some more?

i can't get it to work

That's because I don't think it actually works...
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
kikki
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom41 Posts
October 06 2010 08:12 GMT
#312
On October 06 2010 16:32 NeoLearner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 16:25 Subversion wrote:
On September 22 2010 00:04 TheFinalWord wrote:
You can hold down a hotkey instead of spamming it.


Wait... what? :O

I'm 1200 diamond Zerg and I didn't know this :D

I use this all the time to spawn drone 11 and 12. If you 9OL you will have a bit more than 100 minerals when the overlord pops. So if you hold down the button when the overlord is about to spawn, you'll have great timing.
One trick I learned here is to turn up your repeat if you use the "hold-down" thing a lot.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 16:21 Fyro wrote:
On October 06 2010 12:10 instantdry wrote:
If you borrow a roach and double tap unborrow at a cliff, it will go up or down the cliff.


Can you explain this some more?

i can't get it to work

That's because I don't think it actually works...


That's interesting, does holding the hotkey down pre-having enough minerals queue it as soon as you do? I've never actually done that I've just usually spammed the hotkey near to having enough minerals..
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
October 06 2010 08:13 GMT
#313
On September 22 2010 03:07 monx wrote:
shift + "control group number" to add units to a particular group instead of remaking the whole group each time. Learned that at end of beta -_-

holy shit i can't believe i didn't know this. glad i read this thread now
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
October 06 2010 08:14 GMT
#314
On October 06 2010 17:12 kikki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 16:32 NeoLearner wrote:
On October 06 2010 16:25 Subversion wrote:
On September 22 2010 00:04 TheFinalWord wrote:
You can hold down a hotkey instead of spamming it.


Wait... what? :O

I'm 1200 diamond Zerg and I didn't know this :D

I use this all the time to spawn drone 11 and 12. If you 9OL you will have a bit more than 100 minerals when the overlord pops. So if you hold down the button when the overlord is about to spawn, you'll have great timing.
One trick I learned here is to turn up your repeat if you use the "hold-down" thing a lot.

On October 06 2010 16:21 Fyro wrote:
On October 06 2010 12:10 instantdry wrote:
If you borrow a roach and double tap unborrow at a cliff, it will go up or down the cliff.


Can you explain this some more?

i can't get it to work

That's because I don't think it actually works...


That's interesting, does holding the hotkey down pre-having enough minerals queue it as soon as you do? I've never actually done that I've just usually spammed the hotkey near to having enough minerals..

Yes, it does. You keep hearing the "Not enough mineralzzzzzzz" a few times but when the larvae pop, drones are immediately built. Don't know if and how much faster it is than spamming. Would depend on your apm I guess.
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
Shrewmy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia199 Posts
October 06 2010 08:21 GMT
#315
On October 06 2010 07:00 erulabs wrote:
This is outside of SC directly but... Maintain your health!

The only activity where I notice my recent eating/health habits as much as in SC is off road mountain bike riding. If I'm caffeinated up and low on protein my skill level drops wildly. My mother came into town and cooked me good food that lasted about a week, I jumped something like 300 points up from 1200->1500 diamond Z.

Of course, now that she went back home and I'm back to Ramen and Redbull, i'm back to my normal losing streaks

But yes, it's a bit weird for a video game, but I force myself not to ladder when I'm drunk/stoned/tired/hungry etc. Eat well, maintain your health and keep a good mood and you'll be -amazed- at how much better you play.

This really applies to everything in life, but let's be honest. No one wants to be in peak condition all day long. The couch and the TV have a sacred place in every westerners life

A poor diet will typically impair cognitive function.

Try adding in more meat into your ramen or something
Scheefe
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands226 Posts
October 06 2010 09:06 GMT
#316
I dont know if this has been posted before but you can CTRL CLICK the TOP LEFT icon of your production cycle to select these units. Somehow helped me when 24 Zerglings hatched.
Your hero is standing at a bad posistion and deserved to die.
Mr Cochese
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom11 Posts
October 06 2010 15:40 GMT
#317
Realising that banelings are actually good was pretty important for me.
I died in a crash two years ago - is that what they told you?
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
October 06 2010 15:46 GMT
#318
Using an emp grenade on an observer or dark templar will temporarily remove their cloaking.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
J7S
Profile Joined March 2009
Brazil179 Posts
October 06 2010 21:34 GMT
#319
The changeling actually doesnt look so different from the opponent units in their perspective. It has a strange color only in the Zergs perspective.
"Mein Führer, I can walk!" - Dr. Strangelove
nanoscorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1237 Posts
October 06 2010 22:14 GMT
#320
Zergling + Baneling easy micro:
1. Put them in one group.
2. Identify target, and issue a move command BEHIND it.
3. Once your speedlings have moved past the target, a-move for the win.

This works because your speedlings are faster than the banelings. The banelings get dragged behind like a deadly kite, while the speedlings soak up fire and form a wall behind your target. Clearing out a mineral line can be hilarious: you run the speedlings to the far entrance, he panics and moves all the harvesters out the other entrance... into the banelings.
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