EPT[D] The Three Pillars of Skill - Page 2
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Licmyobelisk
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sinn
United States132 Posts
On June 18 2010 17:12 Skillz_Man wrote: Im sorry but this has been known FOREVER. I dont think you said one useful thingt in your post. Im sure pretty much everyone on TL knows what micro/macro is and maybe some people confuse strategy and tactics, but it doesnt matter! I dont understand what the point of all this was besides sharing you vague knowledge of RTS games and give us a definition. Please dont spam TL forums with crap like this.... Wow, flame more please? Do you really not see a possible flame war starting cause of your post? Or are you trolling? You're completely missing the point here. First of all, are you truly certain that everyone knows an exact definition of micro/macro? I'm pretty sure most people have this vague idea that micro means moving your units around in battle and macro means building units. But its SO much more than just that. "maybe some people confuse strategy and tactics, but it doesnt matter!" Are you serious here? You see some problem with everyone being on the same wavelength when they're discussing gameplay? This is a goddamned FORUM man, are you seriously that dense? Also, please read the whole thing before attempting to devalue it. Like he said, he wrote this in order to SET UP the next few guides he plans on writing. That way he has a foundation with which to work off of. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On June 18 2010 17:23 sinn wrote: Wow, flame more please? Do you really not see a possible flame war starting cause of your post? Or are you trolling? You're completely missing the point here. First of all, are you truly certain that everyone knows an exact definition of micro/macro? I'm pretty sure most people have this vague idea that micro means moving your units around in battle and macro means building units. But its SO much more than just that. "maybe some people confuse strategy and tactics, but it doesnt matter!" Are you serious here? You see some problem with everyone being on the same wavelength when they're discussing gameplay? This is a goddamned FORUM man, are you seriously that dense? Also, please read the whole thing before attempting to devalue it. Like he said, he wrote this in order to SET UP the next few guides he plans on writing. That way he has a foundation with which to work off of. Please face reality, he said nothing informative besides saying what we call these things... Just because you dont know what the word micro is doesnt mean you dont know what youre trying to do ingame. Is his next article gonna be a strategy guide or a description of a 6 pool? Im keeping my posts short and sweet since there is nothing to argue over. | ||
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FC.Strike
United States621 Posts
On June 18 2010 17:29 Skillz_Man wrote: Please face reality, he said nothing informative besides saying what we call these things... Just because you dont know what the word micro is doesnt mean you dont know what youre trying to do ingame. Is his next article gonna be a strategy guide or a description of a 6 pool? Thank you for understanding the point of this one particular article. Its sole purpose was indeed to clarify the meanings of strategy, tactics, and mechanics to players who might have conflicting opinions. This article will serve as the foundation on which I can write future articles. I believe I clarified that point in my first paragraph. I'm confused as to why you're so angry, but to each his own. | ||
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FC.Strike
United States621 Posts
On June 18 2010 17:14 ArvickHero wrote: Where does adaptability/game sense lie under? It's difficult to pin either of those on a specific pillar because they can be different in different cases. I'd say that for the most part, on the spot decisions that you make tend to be Tactics. The exception is when your strategy specifically says that you need to adapt under certain situations (if I see a 2 gate, I'll throw down a roach warren) in which case the adaptation falls under your strategy. On June 18 2010 17:18 Licmyobelisk wrote: really like your thread strike, regarding the first pillar which do you think is the most effective or efficient to say the least? Static Strategy or Flexible? I'll be writing an article about effective strategic development, although briefly I think that the strongest strategies are those which provide a framework on which the entire game can be played (I'll open speedlings, go into hydras, and end with broodlords), but at the same time are robust and flexible enough to account for anything that could throw your framework off (what do I do if I see XYZ?) As for the most effective pillar, I've written a guide about it which I just posted here on TeamLiquid. You can read that here if you want: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131621 I fully believe that the strongest pillar is mechanics and that both strategy and tactics lean upon mechanics. After all, your strategy and tactics are only as solid as your execution. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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deidara
United States2 Posts
On June 18 2010 17:29 Skillz_Man wrote: Please face reality, he said nothing informative besides saying what we call these things... Just because you dont know what the word micro is doesnt mean you dont know what youre trying to do ingame. Is his next article gonna be a strategy guide or a description of a 6 pool? Im keeping my posts short and sweet since there is nothing to argue over. Skillz_Man, how old are you? Your thought process and logical flow are equivalent to that of a 3rd grader's You say "Im keeping my posts short and sweet since there is nothing to argue over" when in fact by posting here arguing is EXACTLY what you are doing. "Please face reality, he said nothing informative besides saying what we call these things..." do you not READ the posts other people make?! I'll try to get it through to your dense head - THEYRE TRYING TO TALK ALONG THE SAME WAVELENGTH HERE. in fact, if you think about it ANY form of communication requires SOME sort of similar wavelength. If I called the color red, blue, and we tried to talk about something that's red, how could we even communicate? "Is his next article gonna be a strategy guide or a description of a 6 pool?" I don't get you man. Why do you insist on childlishly attacking him when as you can see from the above post he's so graciously responding to you? His IQ is probably double yours. Please, stfu and stop attempting to comment on things that are above you. Have fun being in gold league for the rest of your life kthx. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On June 18 2010 17:41 deidara wrote: Skillz_Man, how old are you? Your thought process and logical flow are equivalent to that of a 3rd grader's You say "Im keeping my posts short and sweet since there is nothing to argue over" when in fact by posting here arguing is EXACTLY what you are doing. "Please face reality, he said nothing informative besides saying what we call these things..." do you not READ the posts other people make?! I'll try to get it through to your dense head - THEYRE TRYING TO TALK ALONG THE SAME WAVELENGTH HERE. in fact, if you think about it ANY form of communication requires SOME sort of similar wavelength. If I called the color red, blue, and we tried to talk about something that's red, how could we even communicate? "Is his next article gonna be a strategy guide or a description of a 6 pool?" I don't get you man. Why do you insist on childlishly attacking him when as you can see from the above post he's so graciously responding to you? His IQ is probably double yours. Please, stfu and stop attempting to comment on things that are above you. Have fun being in gold league for the rest of your life kthx. I must be sending a strong message if thats your first post, but Ill be there when this next article comes out, prove me wrong there, as of now my hopes arent too high. And lol sorry, me in gold league? Fancy a quick game of SC1? | ||
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FC.Strike
United States621 Posts
I think that it's easy to get to a high level of play and then feel that these little bits of information are unimportant or irrelevant. However when I discuss fast ways to improve to lesser players, I need to make sure that they understand what I'm actually talking about. Like I posted in my newer thread, I'm not preaching to the choir. Many many people frequent these forums - in the latest poll, about 50% of the board said they were platinum level (back when Diamond didn't exist). That means at least 50% of the board can benefit from these types of writings, and I'm sure a great percentage of those in Diamond need a gentle reminder. Thank you for your concerns, you're certainly entitled to your opinion that I'm adding nothing of use to the boards. As you can see from the previous replies, that opinion is not one shared by everyone. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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FC.Strike
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