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Ryan22
Canada84 Posts
Im a toss player in the gold league. I usually use stalker/dt and I've gotten pretty good with it. Lately every zerg I face goes mass hydra. I dont get scouted so I know they have it in their head from the start to do so. I need to know how to stop it. It seems everytime I play zerg I lose now. Replay below, help is greatly appreciated. http://rapidshare.com/files/391233204/Steppes_of_War__27_.SC2Replay.html (made a pointless robo facility, when I meant to make a start gate. - oops) | ||
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TwoPac
United States163 Posts
EDIT: Lol @ Pointless Robo User was warned for this post | ||
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Fraud
Canada108 Posts
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
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BlackMesa
Kenya338 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On May 25 2010 08:57 TwoPac wrote: Mass Hydras = Immortal or Colossus w/sentry/zlot No, Immortals are terrible vs Hydra. They don't do any bonus damage and the shield barely does anything. User was warned for this post | ||
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Ciddass
Germany149 Posts
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Stationary
Sweden22 Posts
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Ryan22
Canada84 Posts
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DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
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rbkl
772 Posts
HTs work as well User was warned for this post | ||
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Darthturtle
United States718 Posts
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rockon1215
United States612 Posts
On May 25 2010 09:38 Darthturtle wrote: counters everything...Mothership. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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SuperDoremon
United States20 Posts
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
Especially with in the plat or lower divisions be careful to not fall in love with a build just because it works. Or because you have gotten "good" with it. I'm not trying to flame but most of the time it is because of a weak opponent(unless of course you watching EVERY winning rep) Day 9 has talked about the perception of working or even nonworking builds. | ||
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LaustinSpayce
United Kingdom58 Posts
Under the cut is a bit from the HDH invitational grand final that can help you with your woes here: + Show Spoiler + On Metalopolis, WhiteRa managed to completely decimate a hydra/roach heavy maxed-out push with some great force fields that broke up the hydra surround, stopped infestors from getting within range and effectively split Idra's army in two so WhiteRa can stomp all over him. It was a great moment! | ||
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Oxymoron
Canada137 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On May 25 2010 09:10 Ciddass wrote: chargelots + collossi This. Throw in storm if you feel like microing, but mass colossi + chargelots = win vs hydras. User was warned for this post | ||
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Kakisho
United States240 Posts
Me, Protoss Him, Zerg He, the entire game was always one base ahead of me. He went mass hydras and I went gateway units including the legendary High Templar (With both upgrades...important). On the cliff to the left of the 3 o'clock expansion, I had a proxy pylon where I could spawn HT above the cliff as well as BELOW the cliff. I have cannons at the double choke (which I panic-built when he was moving out, but never attacked). He has a HUGE amount of hydralisks but hasnt' spread creep across the entire map so after he beats my standard gateway unit army mix (with only 2 high templar at that stage of the game), he just moves on to to attack and win but I spawn 3 high templar and use two of the storms, which deal massive damage to the army (he retreats out of range before I cast a third one). Pretty much, even though he had completely map control and a much bigger, stronger army, I had the correct tech. I would spawn 4 high templar and just march them straight at the enemy Zerg with a few zealots at his newest expansion. If he attacks, the storms deal heavy damage and the Zerg, killing about 8+ Hydras and damaging many, many more. Though I easily lose ALL of my high templars, they costed much less than what he lost. Everytime this happened, he lost a about twice as much as I did. Every proceeding confrontation hurt him more than me, even though I lost all of my units and he always had a bunch left over. Eventually, I stockpiled enough units (that weren't fighting, since I used many waves of just high templar who spawn, storm and die) to simply attack him when his hydra numbers were low. I killed two expos and he left. To sum all of that up, a single storm on a hydra ball is worth the cost of the High Templar, especially if you use many high templar over time. Also, archons are pretty good against Hydras and Lings. | ||
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Beastman
31 Posts
If your opting for robo, deffinently do the observer first while the support bay is building. Colussous or HTs are absolutley key and the meat shield can be chargelots or (havent tested this much) but blink stalkers to lure a trap with colussus and sentry. If you can abuse cliffs and FF then you will always succede with the defenders advantage. | ||
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susySquark
United States1692 Posts
storm tech is also viable. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 25 2010 10:21 susySquark wrote: colossus zealot SENTRY. guardian shield helps a lot vs hydra too, as well as the ability to block them off for your colossi to pick off. storm tech is also viable. upon seeing your lack of stalkers, zergs will immediatly start getting corruptors and kill all your colossus then rape all over you though User was warned for this post | ||
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FaTLiP
United States57 Posts
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Chriamon
United States886 Posts
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Ryan22
Canada84 Posts
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
Being warned for this post is stupid... the information is clear. In SC2 Hydras can't Storm dodge effectively. Storm does exactly 1 Hydra of health over its area killing many Hydras. If Speedlots are there to clean up, peace out mass Hydra. Noting the warning combo that went down in this thread, I think a mod just woke up funky. Zatic: I can't imagine how you'd judge if we watched the replay or not... moreover, he's asking for general help vs mass Hydra is he not? Thus, his replay may or may not be relevant to that. As a general note, few Ps attempt Templars vs Z instead, favoring the Collo. User was warned for this post | ||
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Jinsin5
Canada44 Posts
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Ryan22
Canada84 Posts
http://rapidshare.com/files/391261094/Kulas_Ravine__29_.SC2Replay.html Tell me if this is what I should be doing against hydras? Thanks again guys | ||
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Incanus
Canada695 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
You want to back up colossi with stalkers which will deter air to a degree. That being said, you will also need void ray when they start to bring in corruptors. Three to four void rays take out corruptors very, very quickly. Stalkers are not effective at this role because they will target the hydralisks over corruptors, and often you cannot dedicate many stalkers to corruptors or else you cannot deal enough DPS to the hydralisk. An ideal army would be colossi, stalker, few zealot and sentry (guardian shield, very useful) and three or four void rays. This isn't always possible, but just keep in mind that this is your go to army when possible. | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
OP: You could have found better answers just googling, searching this forum, watching VODs or by playing the game. Sorry that this forum is such a gigantic failure. User warned for this post | ||
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