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hofodomo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:05:02
April 17 2010 21:59 GMT
#41
Interesting, this exact strat happened to me earlier today on this map. Except I also always void ray cheese vs T/Z on this map, so some unexpected developments happened...

I never expected a proxy creep tumor, so I had to throw down some emergency cannons.


http://screplays.com/replays/hofodomo/1142

I think I would have definitely lost if I didn't cheese as well, because I would never have expected this (didn't know you could proxy tumors this way until this game & thread).
Smoke weed ev'ry day.
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
April 17 2010 22:31 GMT
#42
I'm waiting for the day that people creep tumor rush and just prevent toss from building anything lol
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
April 17 2010 23:24 GMT
#43
Imagine if you did this in someone's base relatively early game (would be hard to get the queen in there tho)... would be hilarious to keep extending the tumor and basically stop them from being able to build anything until they get detection
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Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
April 18 2010 02:27 GMT
#44
Pretty sure that tumors take 15 seconds to build and during this time they are not cloaked, so creeping up someones base isn't that practical as they can just kill the tumor when you're trying to extend it and that's the end of that. Not 100% on this and it's not something i've heard much about though.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
April 18 2010 02:41 GMT
#45
I don't know, this seems really risky. That queen that's traveling to the canceled hatchery can be easily scouted and your opponent will definitely suspect something.
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SarcasticOne
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia213 Posts
April 18 2010 02:56 GMT
#46
On April 18 2010 11:41 Prozen wrote:
I don't know, this seems really risky. That queen that's traveling to the canceled hatchery can be easily scouted and your opponent will definitely suspect something.


not to mention all the time lost from spawn lava...
BentoBox
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada303 Posts
April 18 2010 03:01 GMT
#47
How long will it take the queen to even get to your opponent's base early game? And are you going to sacrifice spawning larvae for a spine crawler rush? Though if you make 2 queens straight off the bat, I suppose this could be interesting to toy around with....
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P00RKID
Profile Joined December 2009
United States424 Posts
April 18 2010 04:31 GMT
#48
On April 18 2010 11:56 SarcasticOne wrote:
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On April 18 2010 11:41 Prozen wrote:
I don't know, this seems really risky. That queen that's traveling to the canceled hatchery can be easily scouted and your opponent will definitely suspect something.


not to mention all the time lost from spawn lava...


If you don't want to sacrifice spawn larva time, que up a 2nd queen right as the first finishes. The first queen uses spawn larva before she travels out, and the 2nd queen should come out in time to spawn larva again, becoming your primary queen for larva, while the first one can spam tumors.
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 18 2010 04:34 GMT
#49
you can make the spine crawler immediately after canceling hatchery, with the same drone. you dont even need to wait for the tumor (you can make a tumor + spine if you wanted)

useful zvz cheese!
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lordmordor
Profile Joined February 2009
United States209 Posts
April 18 2010 04:51 GMT
#50
please correct me if i'm wrong...but couldn't you just lay a tumor safely in your own base and just use its duplication-ability to spawn on the creep patch left by the canceled hatch, thus removing the need to have your queen leave the base?
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 18 2010 04:52 GMT
#51
lol no creep tumors can only generate new tumors in a radius of about 6 or 7
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studmac
Profile Joined March 2010
United States22 Posts
April 18 2010 05:46 GMT
#52
It seems like it might be useful on certain occasions. Next time when u do it and build spine crawlers on scrap station in a zvz dont let my lings run by ; ).

gg though, wish you woulda thrown one up before u left =(
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AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
April 18 2010 06:06 GMT
#53
Seems useful for maps with hard to defend chokes, like scrap station. Would even be useful on blistering sands to wall the choke early with evochamber.
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tenpromicro
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States119 Posts
April 18 2010 07:18 GMT
#54
it's a fun thought, but like what many people have already said, it's not economically viable.

personally, in small maps like steppes, i like putting creep generator as soon as i hit t2 on every expansion spot so they cant expand
peetah
Profile Joined August 2005
Sweden88 Posts
April 18 2010 07:22 GMT
#55
I like this. Innovative techniques like this seems to pop up all the time. Reminds me of Starcraft when there where alot of new discoveries.

Fellow SC2 community, we have a great time infront of us!
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
April 18 2010 08:38 GMT
#56
> one base, 1st queen moves out, build second one immediately. first queen does the tumor trick in the corner of the nat and creeps up to the ramp, crawlers go down, first queen should be at 150-200 energy for transfusions, making those crawlers very nasty. If you drop a second tumor and start creeping back towards your base you can probably even get away with just running your crawlers back to your base to help against any counterpush.

As with a lot of these cheeses, your timing and placement would have to be immaculate, but it wouldn't surprise me if we see something like this once in a blue moon in pro play
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ZeroByDivide
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada85 Posts
April 18 2010 08:38 GMT
#57
I don't see this being viable offensively on anything other than Steppes. And probably not that viable on Steppes either. Its a cool idea but bringing your Queen into the open like that is just way too risky in most situations. Using it just outside your base could work... but yeah. I'm skeptical.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 18 2010 09:17 GMT
#58
Patch: 8
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SpoR[image loading]/TheMango[image loading] vs Stabby[image loading]/SteveUrkel[image loading]
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9 minute game, I use the hatchery/creep tumor exploit to spine crawler and ling rush.

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
P00RKID
Profile Joined December 2009
United States424 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 09:29:34
April 18 2010 09:18 GMT
#59
On April 18 2010 14:46 studmac wrote:
It seems like it might be useful on certain occasions. Next time when u do it and build spine crawlers on scrap station in a zvz dont let my lings run by ; ).

gg though, wish you woulda thrown one up before u left =(


Heh, yeah I blew that one pretty badly, was my first attempt at that one scrap station. I was raging though, GG.

It really is hard to pull of and make it usefull, but I'm pretty sure most of the time I'm doing it wrong / havn't optimized it yet.

I think I had one game on Steppes that it worked vs a protoss (10 overpool, 13 queen + 6 lings) I will have to find it and upload it.


Oh and nice game there CharlieMurphey.
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 18 2010 11:08 GMT
#60
On April 18 2010 07:31 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
I'm waiting for the day that people creep tumor rush and just prevent toss from building anything lol

Then toss sends all his units out for mass killing time.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
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