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panzerbat
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden44 Posts
April 16 2010 22:31 GMT
#41
On April 17 2010 07:20 rahkshi wrote:
thank you very much for writing this. I dont actually have SC2. But i was hoping to learn about the races etc. For the main release( whenever that may be). This has further prompted my choice to be mainly a terran player. However how would u deal with immortals as ive seen replays and the immortals always seem to beat through the defences of the opposite army.

Stimmed marines, preferably with a medivac, or banshees makes short work of Immortals.
Basicly, anything with a fast attackspeed will do.
Wow... The decleration of Independace Day...
rahkshi
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom36 Posts
April 16 2010 22:38 GMT
#42
thank you very much.
No doubt about it, im new to SC. So if i ask silly questions, dont bash me ¬.¬
Khac
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4 Posts
April 17 2010 18:07 GMT
#43
I like this thread
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 18 2010 02:43 GMT
#44
Very nice read. I actually sent this to a friend to help him out. Similar stuff for the other races would be awesome too.

Thanks a bunch, excellent post!!
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 04:08:56
April 18 2010 04:08 GMT
#45
A lot of my early game losses come from trying to branch out in too much tech. Infantry upgrades/tech, factory upgrades/tech and starport upgrades/tech are all good in their own way, but the timing often wont let you develop all of them. Turtling up and teching is a double edged sword, it gives your opponment free reign on the map unless you can really surprise him with an offensive cliff drop at his natural (depend on map).

Mid to late game you want to make sure you have your macro structures up, to avoid stashing minerals and gas, getting your army wiped out by a slightly bigger force, or simply not having time to rebuild. (again couple losses from not having a smoother transition from 2 to 6+ rax, etc.)

Constant agression, if you end up even or positive on your kills/losses is beneficials in many ways, its a scouting opportunity and it will force your opponment to turtle up, or force his hand to strike unorganized. Not to mention its more entertaining than building up a huge army...! I think terran playstyle will evolve (if it hasnt already), to a defensive/surgical strikes approach.

As a final note, today's showdown between TL and team EG really showed how map knowledge is important as well, it should affect your gameplan/unit choices.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
leonardoharo
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil6 Posts
April 18 2010 11:58 GMT
#46
Awesome guide, keep up the good work!
the worst foe lies within the self
wonksaggin
Profile Joined March 2010
United States73 Posts
April 18 2010 12:15 GMT
#47
thanks zoltan
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
April 18 2010 20:20 GMT
#48
nice read, i like the unit breakdowns!

I noticed you are still writing about TvP

Day9 daily #101 was a show about a few games where Kawaii Rice played TvP and showed how strong marines can be and also a way to FE against a common protoss opening.
FADC
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
April 19 2010 15:28 GMT
#49
Added: PvT
Coming soon: More replays! (possibly tonight- depending on my level of girlfriend aggro).
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
StaticKinetics
Profile Joined April 2010
United States23 Posts
April 19 2010 19:27 GMT
#50
Awesome thread!

I'm only 16 copper and this is helping me sooo much. My win count has gone up considerably since I read this
GHOST RUSH
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 20:02:49
April 19 2010 19:52 GMT
#51
On April 19 2010 05:20 rwrzr wrote:
nice read, i like the unit breakdowns!

I noticed you are still writing about TvP

Day9 daily #101 was a show about a few games where Kawaii Rice played TvP and showed how strong marines can be and also a way to FE against a common protoss opening.



I am like 5 eps behind on my day[9] watching, too much time playing sc2, but i will definatly check that out (and im gonna start linking day9 eps to this page whenever he talks about anything relvant).

To all those who are using this guide: THANKS! I appreciate this not being a huge waste of my time =D
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
April 21 2010 17:08 GMT
#52
some small updates today: added a few links. Sorry about the slow updates but its been a hectic week. I promise some more replays by friday- and expect a complete breakdown of patch 9 with respect to terran as soon as patch 9 is released.
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
roark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States187 Posts
April 22 2010 06:59 GMT
#53
Made a quick reference version of this guide.

I put all the build orders in a more print ready form so my nooby-self can have them close at hand for reference.

Feel free to use this as well, thought I would throw it back. Credit obviously to Zoltan, helping terran noobs since 2010!

HINT: Looks best w/ fixed width font!

Zoltan at Hand: Quick Reference Guide!
+ Show Spoiler +
Zoltan Basic Builds:
Quick Reference Guide

TvT
----

Against Fast Reaper:
--------------------

10 Supply
12 Rax
14 OC
14\15 Tech Lab
2x Maruader

Against Maurauder:
------------------
Siege Tanks w/ Siege Mode

10 Supply
12 Rax
12 Gas
14\15 OC
14\15 2nd Gas
16-18 Factory
Siege Tank, Siege Mode

Against Siege Tanks:
--------------------
Same as above, then:

Starport
1x Viking
Banshees w/ Cloak
Snipe tanks, harass
Contain and expand.


TvP
----

Offensive:
----------
8 rax
8 gas
10 supply
11 reaper + OC

Defensive:
----------
MM + Ghost
EMP the Immortals, then sentries

Defensive FE:
-------------
(Lost Temple, Metalopolis, Steppes of War)

10 supply
11 rax
14 OC
17 CC -> PF
2x Gas, Engy Bay
2x Bunkers at Nat w/ marines

MID\LATE: Goal
--------------
Banshees and Contain
Bolster Bio and move to BCruisers


TvZ
----

Fast Expo
OC w/ Bunkers
Turrets + Siege at chokes

Thors + Hellion + MMM
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 22 2010 07:50 GMT
#54
I love this thread, thank you. This is incredibly helpfull for a new terran.
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
April 22 2010 09:42 GMT
#55
Thank you for making this, this is exactly what i was looking for.
Gokain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States49 Posts
April 22 2010 15:03 GMT
#56
the Day[9] daily ep. about FE w/ 4rax is nice and looks viable. i got pretty decent results from it.

and good read, very helpful.
CardnalStryker
Profile Joined April 2010
United States8 Posts
April 22 2010 18:21 GMT
#57
Outstanding write up for to the OP. Really going to help me vs toss. I finally got a key last night so I was able to play through my placement matches after playing against very hard 7.0 AI in 1v1 and 1v3 for the last month or two. Turns out I suck against people and got placed in bronze(I play terran). I have really really worked on getting my economy up and constantly spamming of units, scouting and expanding. Even tho I have watched alot of replays of good players. I have a hard time with micro(and macro). Without having each type of my army on its own hotkey, its hard to make them all work together. It takes more time then I would like to find a small unit like a marine and doubleclick to give them group commands. And when I hotkey my units, usually my production/scouting suffers.Anyway please feel free to add me in game. SpaceNavy.Striker
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
April 22 2010 18:26 GMT
#58
a very comprehensive and informative guide!
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 14:18:37
April 22 2010 19:01 GMT
#59
New replays going up right now while game is patching; just some of my placement matches from most recent reset. Kinda interesting games, but watch mostly for the strategy, i play pretty badly in one of these lol

Edit: they are under the 8 rax proxy Reapers spoiler - under the reapers spoiler-
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
April 23 2010 14:19 GMT
#60
Another small update this morning- i broke down the 8 rax proxy reaper strat and put it under the unit breakdown for the reapers. Hope you all enjoy it!
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