This is a huge problem right now. Playability & watchability is ruined IMO. One important thing to note is that the bottom pic includes fog of war, but that's part of the problem. Fog looks particularly bad on these messed up color maps - anything dark (like the UI and fog of war) looks particularly bad.

Avexyli

United States710 Posts

March 14 2016 23:42 GMT

#23

Here's a better comparison:

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Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

March 14 2016 23:43 GMT

#24

I'm not sure why but it seems to look substantially worse ingame than in your second pic there. Are you using max settings? I'm on competitive settings for visibility and performance.

Avexyli

United States710 Posts

March 14 2016 23:45 GMT

#25

Yep, I make all my maps on the max settings.

I messed around a bit and turned contrast to 10 while touching no other settings, and it shows how weird black is:

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Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

March 14 2016 23:46 GMT

#26

Can you look at comparison on med and/or low?

Avexyli

United States710 Posts

March 14 2016 23:46 GMT

#27

Including Texture Quality?

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

March 14 2016 23:47 GMT

#28

Texture quality is probably not a big deal, i use max textures on med shaders to get this awful result.

Thanks for the help/discussion, i thought map editor for a while but it's not easy to dig around in stuff that you have no understanding of

Avexyli

United States710 Posts

March 14 2016 23:49 GMT

#29

EDIT: Hmm, not much difference, might need to restart editor.

EDIT2: Nope, still no difference.

It could be that t he editor directly saves as .jpg and thus has loss. Here's some direct crops:

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Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

March 14 2016 23:54 GMT

#30

It's still a large improvement but i'm not seeing the "holy fuck where is anything" that i get when i load the map myself like this pic: http://i.imgur.com/3UPf6V3.png

Avexyli

United States710 Posts

March 14 2016 23:56 GMT

#31

Not sure, there are no lighting effects on Low settings, and it looks like this:

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Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

March 14 2016 23:59 GMT

#32

It's fixed on low :D (good to know, but i don't want to be on low 24/7 when playing and it doesn't fix any casted games)

+ Show Spoiler +

Here's 3 ingame pics:

low
medium
extreme

Avexyli

United States710 Posts

March 15 2016 00:01 GMT

#33

The only thing I see added on extreme is a bit of ambient occlusion along the ramp.

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

March 15 2016 00:02 GMT

#34

med vs extreme shader looks practically the same and both awful to me here. I checked with restart and it seems to be the same - everything over low shader has crushed colors & awful contrast in dark areas.

Avexyli

United States710 Posts

March 15 2016 00:05 GMT

#35

Messed with some key lighting, turned colorization to 0 (as the darker pictures show), and it seems like the same effect of the live version could be completely by slightly brightening and hueing over the textures with blue.

Cyro

United Kingdom20326 Posts

March 15 2016 00:13 GMT

#36

That looks a thousand times better than anything i see now outside of low shaders!

InfCereal

Canada1759 Posts

March 15 2016 12:35 GMT

#37

On March 15 2016 09:05 Avexyli wrote:
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Oh my god that looks so much better

Gumbi

Ireland463 Posts

March 15 2016 15:17 GMT

#38

That looks a ton better now.

Hexe

United States332 Posts

March 15 2016 17:18 GMT

#39

Playing zerg on any dark map is nightmare. Hard to see creep hard to see burrowed mines lurks statis wards. LotV has been a step down on the map visual aspect

Ve5pa

United Kingdom252 Posts

March 15 2016 20:35 GMT

#40

Cheers for the feedback and discussion, I think we might be onto something in regards other people not liking very dark maps. Just imagine those screenshots with a load of creep all over them and watching it as a youtube video. Even worse...

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