EPTI thought that this system could be like every unit having a shadow and you weren't allowed to stand on someone's shadow. With the blockers moving at extreme speed it would be like a shadow that always sticks to the body, but with speed only slightly higher than the unit's, the shadow would constantly have to catch up to its host and movement would be more unreliable. (which might be desired for units like zerglings perhaps, although maybe not for groups of hydras and marines?)
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
I thought that this system could be like every unit having a shadow and you weren't allowed to stand on someone's shadow. With the blockers moving at extreme speed it would be like a shadow that always sticks to the body, but with speed only slightly higher than the unit's, the shadow would constantly have to catch up to its host and movement would be more unreliable. (which might be desired for units like zerglings perhaps, although maybe not for groups of hydras and marines?) | ||
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baba44713
83 Posts
I'm asking because I am currently pitching Starbow to members of my clan, but since most of the people there have exclusive SC2 background and are only vaguely informed about what BW was and how it played so far I am getting very mixed reactions. I am sure someone somewhere has made a nice Starbow overview (especially concerning the actual changes and how they affect the game) but I just can't seem to find it anywhere. Cheers! | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
On January 29 2014 23:36 baba44713 wrote: Question: what would you recommend as a good primer / starting point for HotS -> Starbow transition? I'm asking because I am currently pitching Starbow to members of my clan, but since most of the people there have exclusive SC2 background and are only vaguely informed about what BW was and how it played so far I am getting very mixed reactions. I am sure someone somewhere has made a nice Starbow overview (especially concerning the actual changes and how they affect the game) but I just can't seem to find it anywhere. Cheers! This is a bit difficult and time-consuming. I guess looking through the games from ESL cups and the Axiom tournament might be good. I wish Day9 did a Starbow daily and explained some stuff. I was thinking about doing something to this effect but my time in front of a computer with quite surroundings is limited. Decmberscalm did a "Terran Overview" but that's more for complete beginners. He wanted to do one for toss and zerg as well. | ||
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decemberscalm
United States1353 Posts
On January 30 2014 00:05 Xiphias wrote: This is a bit difficult and time-consuming. I guess looking through the games from ESL cups and the Axiom tournament might be good. I wish Day9 did a Starbow daily and explained some stuff. I was thinking about doing something to this effect but my time in front of a computer with quite surroundings is limited. Decmberscalm did a "Terran Overview" but that's more for complete beginners. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYTv2DwcQPs He wanted to do one for toss and zerg as well. Heeey. I hadn't advertised that because I wanted to do a much better one x.x. | ||
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Gaius Baltar
United States449 Posts
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
On January 30 2014 04:33 decemberscalm wrote: Heeey. I hadn't advertised that because I wanted to do a much better one x.x. Want me to delete it? Lol, I posted it on reddit as well I think XD | ||
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ninjadavid09
United States6 Posts
Love what you all are doing. This is probably the best game I've ever played. <3 | ||
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baba44713
83 Posts
On January 30 2014 00:05 Xiphias wrote: This is a bit difficult and time-consuming. I guess looking through the games from ESL cups and the Axiom tournament might be good. I wish Day9 did a Starbow daily and explained some stuff. I was thinking about doing something to this effect but my time in front of a computer with quite surroundings is limited. Decmberscalm did a "Terran Overview" but that's more for complete beginners. He wanted to do one for toss and zerg as well. Thanks. I think one serious thing Starbow kinda lacks is marketing. For a while there was a huge hype on Blizz forums but now it has both died down (and been modded down  ) so I don't know exactly how much recognition Starbow gets outside of the part of the community that is already aware of it. But with the Arcade being free now I guess there is no better time to up the playerbase pool...Anyways, great work on Starbow. Initially I thought it was a fad, but the more I play it, it just gets better and better. The only bad thing I can say about it currently is that it makes it that much harder to go back to regular laddering. | ||
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stoppa
Brazil11 Posts
I have noticed a bug with queens. Imagine a scenario where you have 3 hatchs and 3 queens. When I select all 3 queens and cicle through hatchs injecting on them, the expectation is that each queen will inject on the closest hatch. It is what happens on HOTS/WOL. But, on Starbow, (even when the queens [obviously] have energy,) they cross position every single time. Is this working as intended? Thanks. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On January 30 2014 20:06 stoppa wrote: Hi! I have noticed a bug with queens. Imagine a scenario where you have 3 hatchs and 3 queens. When I select all 3 queens and cicle through hatchs injecting on them, the expectation is that each queen will inject on the closest hatch. It is what happens on HOTS/WOL. But, on Starbow, (even when the queens [obviously] have energy,) they cross position every single time. Is this working as intended? Thanks. Do you have a replay? | ||
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stoppa
Brazil11 Posts
Actually, as soon as I reach home (3 hour from now), I will create a dummy game and reproduce it, since I'm silver and can't post a replay with 20 apm on TL forums. It will bring the servers down. | ||
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enord
France258 Posts
if i may  starbow needs a campaign, i humbly think it would make an awesome tutorial  (not to mention extra fun and practice area for people wanting to better control/understand starbow specific mechanics/gameplay) mmm... + Show Spoiler + long live brood war in all its avatars, for ever | ||
iHirO
United Kingdom1381 Posts
A starbow version of Darglein's Micro Trainer would probably work. | ||
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stoppa
Brazil11 Posts
On January 30 2014 20:16 stoppa wrote: Yes, I do. Actually, as soon as I reach home (3 hour from now), I will create a dummy game and reproduce it, since I'm silver and can't post a replay with 20 apm on TL forums. It will bring the servers down. Link to replay. http://www.sendspace.com/file/8nxdbm | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
On January 30 2014 21:13 enord wrote: hi, if i may starbow needs a campaign, i humbly think it would make an awesome tutorial (not to mention extra fun and practice area for people wanting to better control/understand starbow specific mechanics/gameplay) mmm... + Show Spoiler + long live brood war in all its avatars, for ever We had a guy working on a campaign (just story and some general ideas). He was going to work more on it once the game "settled down" a bit more. We are getting close to that and we have tried to get a hold of him, but he does not reply. He had some really good ideas (No Jim Raynor / Kerrigan love story...) I hope he responds soon | ||
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stoppa
Brazil11 Posts
-> If the hatchery is under spell effect, and while next hatchery is a viable target, go to next hatchery. Since on original inject you cannot inject twice on the same hatchery, the queen wouldn't move to next hatch or, as you inject on it 0.5s later, it become a unviable target and the queen stop moving. The fact that others members of the selected group checks if current target is already a current target for other group member, helps to mess things up too. In Starbow case, you can inject twice on same hatchery to refresh the effect. So, a little change on how queen priorize/analyze its targets (while in a group / smartcast) must + Show Spoiler + should =) | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
On January 30 2014 23:48 Xiphias wrote: We had a guy working on a campaign (just story and some general ideas). He was going to work more on it once the game "settled down" a bit more. We are getting close to that and we have tried to get a hold of him, but he does not reply. He had some really good ideas (No Jim Raynor / Kerrigan love story...) I hope he responds soon If he never responds, I'd be down for writing some sort of campaign script. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On January 31 2014 00:13 Fishgle wrote: If he never responds, I'd be down for writing some sort of campaign script. To stay with the theme: pick off after the events of brood war and pretend like the sc2 campaign never happened. Kerrigan isn't a whiny schoolgirl, Raynor isn't a love sick macho idiot, the feral zerg are all long dead, Mengsk is smart, Zerus is a volcanic wasteland. | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
On January 31 2014 01:27 Grumbels wrote: To stay with the theme: pick off after the events of brood war and pretend like the sc2 campaign never happened. Kerrigan isn't a whiny schoolgirl, Raynor isn't a love sick macho idiot, the feral zerg are all long dead, Mengsk is smart, Zerus is a volcanic wasteland. oh. yea. definitely. I'm brainstorming some ideas, and the thought of Raynor getting killed off casually and insignificantly tickles me greatly. | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
On January 31 2014 01:27 Grumbels wrote: To stay with the theme: pick off after the events of brood war and pretend like the sc2 campaign never happened. Kerrigan isn't a whiny schoolgirl, Raynor isn't a love sick macho idiot, the feral zerg are all long dead, Mengsk is smart, Zerus is a volcanic wasteland. I like you. | ||
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