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On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Indeed! Here here!
Uhg, is this map exposure thing a problem only Blizzard can solve? Could teams like FXO help spread their use by using them in their tournies?
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On September 07 2011 14:15 FoxyMayhem wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Indeed! Here here! Uhg, is this map exposure thing a problem only Blizzard can solve? Could teams like FXO help spread their use by using them in their tournies? yeah that was funny haha
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On September 07 2011 14:15 FoxyMayhem wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Indeed! Here here! Uhg, is this map exposure thing a problem only Blizzard can solve? Could teams like FXO help spread their use by using them in their tournies? Look forward to some exciting stuff from ESL! We all know that is a huge problem. We've been building up so far, and every month we get bigger and bigger. Soon, Map of the Month WILL be attracting top pros. And you'll be seeing Maps in major tournaments.
*Note, this could be Blizzard Soon. But we're trying!
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On September 07 2011 15:12 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 14:15 FoxyMayhem wrote:On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Indeed! Here here! Uhg, is this map exposure thing a problem only Blizzard can solve? Could teams like FXO help spread their use by using them in their tournies? Look forward to some exciting stuff from ESL! We all know that is a huge problem. We've been building up so far, and every month we get bigger and bigger. Soon, Map of the Month WILL be attracting top pros. And you'll be seeing Maps in major tournaments. *Note, this could be Blizzard Soon. But we're trying!
The dream!.
Now I just need to find someone who enjoys and is good at the artistic/aethetic part of map making. The texturing/doodads/pretty.
I am terrible with all of this and have seen some amazing work done, I just enjoy doing layouts/designs more.
Maybe its because i follow esports so closely, and am masters level, my importance mentally lies in their design and playability rather than their looks. =/.
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On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Oh it got picket?^^
Awesome
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On September 07 2011 18:19 FlopTurnReaver wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Oh it got picket?^^ Awesome ![](/mirror/smilies/chubby.gif)
only Tyler & iNcontrol answered something like: " yeah, we don´t have time or incentive to play those maps"... then JP moved on to next question.
Dissapointed...
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Why would pro players play maps they wont compete on?
That must be fixed first thing.
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Don't think it matters that much anymore if Tyler and Incontrol have time to play our maps... MotM now has ESL and thus probably EU tournament/showmatches in the future and apparently they also have a big announcement to make and the ESV guys have their Korean Weekly and they have a huge announcement to make as well, so imho things are going very well right now
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Yeah, the question got picked but the answer wasnt all to promising. Basicaly, pro players wont want to play on map's that arent in any tournament pool's. No matter how creative/good they are, like the ones we see here at MotM. I totaly understand that... hopefuly with the ESL hookup the MotM winners get more map publicity, and possibly tournament use.
I cant think of a greater reward than to watch a tourny and think "Whoa dude cool map, oh yeah i made it"
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On September 07 2011 20:20 Johanaz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 18:19 FlopTurnReaver wrote:On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Oh it got picket?^^ Awesome ![](/mirror/smilies/chubby.gif) ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) only Tyler & iNcontrol answered something like: " yeah, we don´t have time or incentive to play those maps"... then JP moved on to next question. Dissapointed... Yeah the response didn't really go in the direction i was hoping it would. But it's hard to ask a clear question with the few letters possible on Twitter
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Nice try Flop, but we already knew the answer, players don't want new maps, the real question is wich tournament will have enough balls to put some custom maps in their map pool. We can't rely on players, players are mapmakers worst ennemies, viewers are the ones who may want new maps, we have to convince sponsors and tournaments, not players. Once tournaments and sponsors understand that viewing the same map for the 19784687476th time is boring then maybe mapmakers have a chance.
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It works in Korea and there's no reason why it whouldn't work here. I was more interested about their opinion about the future of custom maps in ladder/tournament pools and if they'd like to see that. Well yeah they actually answered that one.
My problem is not even that the Blizzard maps are getting boring with time. It's more that they are just effing terrible.
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fenx is 100% correct. tournaments need to be attractive to viewers and sponsors, not to players. the players will play anyway if they want some of the prizemoney.
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Just a reminder, dudes, we're running the semis for motm #9 in about ten minutes.
As for tournaments including custom maps in their pools...
ESL is working with MotM to get a very special custom map into the IEM pool. I can't say any more than its a work in progress, but there are some very special things coming from ESL for the custom mapping community.
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On September 08 2011 03:51 MrBitter wrote: Just a reminder, dudes, we're running the semis for motm #9 in about ten minutes.
As for tournaments including custom maps in their pools...
ESL is working with MotM to get a very special custom map into the IEM pool. I can't say any more than its a work in progress, but there are some very special things coming from ESL for the custom mapping community.
semis of motm #9 when the submission date still havent hit, using motm #8 maps. You sure you dint make a typo there?
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On September 08 2011 04:21 Hondelul wrote:Is there only the semifinals today? Bo5 I got from Rotterdams twitter. I can´t find any infos on Liquipedia or ESL site. With DdoRo vs ViBE and dde vs FireZerg I think so updates might be good. Hope I´m just not blind. Aaaand, including the standing in the overlay might be good, just tuned in and don´t know the result. I think this is the second map now? E: And is this casted from replays? Is the MotM twitter with + Show Spoiler +@MapOfTheMonth MapOfTheMonth Congratulations to funcmode and DDE for winning the MotM# contest and tournament! Also thanks to @esltv for the great cast!
then the result already? Ok got something on http://tv.esl.eu/de/program/view/40511Show nested quote +The second week of Map of the Month. We'll see the likes of DDE, Ddore, Firezerg and Vibe in action tonight live on ESL TV. We might see MrBitter and RotterdaM duke it out as well, just to give an extra flavour to the show!
Today the semi finals will be played. The matches are Ddore vs Vibe and DDE vs Firezerg. Enjoy these top american players battling it out for 100 $ live on ESL TV. DDE won the last one. He's pretty good!
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On September 07 2011 15:12 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 14:15 FoxyMayhem wrote:On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Indeed! Here here! Uhg, is this map exposure thing a problem only Blizzard can solve? Could teams like FXO help spread their use by using them in their tournies? Look forward to some exciting stuff from ESL! We all know that is a huge problem. We've been building up so far, and every month we get bigger and bigger. Soon, Map of the Month WILL be attracting top pros. And you'll be seeing Maps in major tournaments. *Note, this could be Blizzard Soon. But we're trying! Oh, I am excited! And if you guys need help somehow, I'll do what I can. <3 Thanks for trying so hard to make Starcraft better.
On September 07 2011 15:23 MaestroSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 15:12 iGrok wrote:On September 07 2011 14:15 FoxyMayhem wrote:On September 07 2011 14:07 Gl!tch wrote:Good job getting the MotM plug on SotG FlopTurnReaver. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Indeed! Here here! Uhg, is this map exposure thing a problem only Blizzard can solve? Could teams like FXO help spread their use by using them in their tournies? Look forward to some exciting stuff from ESL! We all know that is a huge problem. We've been building up so far, and every month we get bigger and bigger. Soon, Map of the Month WILL be attracting top pros. And you'll be seeing Maps in major tournaments. *Note, this could be Blizzard Soon. But we're trying! The dream!. Now I just need to find someone who enjoys and is good at the artistic/aethetic part of map making. The texturing/doodads/pretty. I am terrible with all of this and have seen some amazing work done, I just enjoy doing layouts/designs more. Maybe its because i follow esports so closely, and am masters level, my importance mentally lies in their design and playability rather than their looks. =/. I think dividing the responsibilities of balance and aesthetics between two mappers is a really, really good practice. It allows us to raise then end-quality of maps with less time invested from each individual, and since this is a hobby, getting pro results without pro investment is a really good thing.
On FenX's point, I don't think we should ever treat the players like enemies. It's not their fault that logic dictates they avoid our maps, and animosity is deconstructive to the goals of the mapmaking community. Hopefully ESL is the start of something great. <3 Looking forward to the future!
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Can someone from MotM or MrBitter tell me if the future tournaments are on EU with EU pros or is it still going to be the same NA players as always in the tournament?
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On September 08 2011 05:37 Ragoo wrote: Can someone from MotM or MrBitter tell me if the future tournaments are on EU with EU pros or is it still going to be the same NA players as always in the tournament?
Hopefully it'll be opening up to an international player pool.
What server we play on... well, that'll be up to the players.
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