This is a really great idea and I am fully in support of it.

I just wanted to throw this idea out there... I don't know if it will be feasible or not...

You might see if you can contact the guys at sc2ranks.com about leaderboards and rankings. Perhaps they'd even be willing to implement a "NTBL Ranking" stat on players' profiles in the future. Who knows... just thought I'd throw the idea out there.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

June 24 2011 08:35 GMT

#182

Would be awesome if all top players were to move to this or something. I doubt it but wish you the best of luck as this is definitely a good step forward ^^.

Only thing is I can see it being abused by friends to get a high rank

Actually what would be really cool is if you could get teamliquid to support this a lot somehow. Not sure if thats actually possible but yeah. I really hope this becomes popular for anyone playing competitively :D.

Good luck thinking of the possibilities has me excited as the blizzard ladder system just blows right now and their crappy maps are annoying

xsksc

United Kingdom1044 Posts

June 24 2011 09:03 GMT

#183

Only read the OP and the first page of comments because gstl is about to start

Is this gonna be on EU too? Looks like it has potential.

Ruscour

5233 Posts

June 24 2011 11:52 GMT

#184

On June 24 2011 18:03 xsksc wrote:
Only read the OP and the first page of comments because gstl is about to start

Is this gonna be on EU too? Looks like it has potential.

He said he'd publish it on other servers eventually once he's not making so many frequent changes to it. I'm waiting on SEA too, except SEA gets a free US account so it ain't so bad :D

Also, Dual Sighttttt

Riggered

Australia14 Posts

June 24 2011 13:35 GMT

#185

in full support of this although i would like to see typhon peak taken out and dual site put in or just add dual site, ty for organizing and coming up with this idea angrybacon

jdsarge

United States308 Posts

June 24 2011 14:23 GMT

#186

Can't wait to try this out!

Phlatline

Croatia176 Posts

June 24 2011 14:29 GMT

#187

Hope this works, I kinda liked ICCUP way of laddering

EpicTRC

United States23 Posts

June 24 2011 17:20 GMT

#188

Hey guys I'm working with Bacon and we've drafted this FAQ. This will be up on the main site tonight, but for now refer people here for repeated questions =)

Is “Not the Blizzard Ladder” the final name for this project?
No. We’ve had a number of people point out this might upset Blizzard, and we don’t want to hurt their feelings ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. We love Blizzard for making such a fantastic game. We just wanted a different laddering system, and the name was chosen to get your attention. Obviously, it worked. AngryBacon still likes The League Formerly Known as “Not The Blizzard Ladder”, or TLFKANTBL.
When will “NTBL” be released?
Sometime this summer. Right now we are in pre-alpha phase, and we’re treating all of you like developers/in-house testers. Both the client side application and server/website will go through the traditional alpha-beta releases before a v1.0 is made public.
How do I get in the alpha/beta?
You’re in it, and as long as you keep playing the NTBL maps and uploading them here you don’t have to worry about the official state of the project. Barring a server threatening explosion in popularity you should be fine. However, the leaderboard and points will be reset as needed throughout development.
Where can I find games?
Go to the NTBL channel on B.net and find a date.
Will there be matchmaking?
In the future, possibly. However, we want to make this better than the standard ladder, so it wouldn’t make a lot of sense to reuse flawed implementations of a generally good idea. If we can do it better, we will.
Will more/different maps be added?
Sure. We’re starting with the MLG/GSL pool because they’re widely played and respected as good maps. This is a great opportunity for the community to decide what maps to play on though, and you’ll get this opportunity in the future. In order for a map to enter the map pool, we need an editable version to submit. The versions of the MLG and GSL maps that are posted on B.Net are locked and cannot be edited for NTBL. If you can find editable versions of maps that we need (Right now Dual Sight, an up to date Terminus & Xel’Naga Fortress), please let us know
Will this be released outside of North America?
That’s the plan, but only NA for now! Sorry!
Where can I submit bug reports?
Here: notblizzladder@gmail.com
How can I help?
Right now we have a small team of web/ application developers working on the various parts of this project. If you are quite familiar with PHP, SQL, or Java, you’re welcome to e-mail notblizzladder@gmail.com and we’ll see if there’s something for you to do!
Find editable, up-to-date versions of maps
Otherwise, keep playing the maps, uploading replays, and finding places we messed up.

RDaneelOlivaw

Vatican City State733 Posts

June 24 2011 17:47 GMT

#189

Thank you so much and I wish you the best of luck. This is a great project! Keep up the good work

dudecrush

Canada418 Posts

June 24 2011 18:38 GMT

#190

On June 24 2011 13:21 meursault wrote:

Show nested quote +

As bacon stated, matchmaking is planned after we get automatic replay uploading working. Likely this will occur using the same client that uploads replays. You will either press a key combination which will be detected or alt-tab and press a button on the client to ask for a matchmaking game. After a short period of time (hopefully enough people will play that it can be short) the client will play a sound, and display a notification. It will then both display the name of a chat channel where you can meet your partner and copy it to the clipboard so you can paste it directly into the channel name. This will avoid having to add your partner to a friends list etc.

This is genius! I feel kinda stupid not to have thought of this tbh...
Not having to use your friends list is also a really good idea.

Jettster

United States73 Posts

June 24 2011 18:48 GMT

#191

I think this is an amazing idea and thanks for doing it. Just wanted to say that the map Terminus is RE and tournaments use SE with the rocks at the 3rd.

angrybacon

United States98 Posts

June 24 2011 18:48 GMT

#192

On June 25 2011 03:38 dudecrush wrote:

Not having to use your friends list is also a really good idea.

Chat channel.

dudecrush

Canada418 Posts

June 24 2011 18:51 GMT

#193

On June 25 2011 03:48 angrybacon wrote:

Show nested quote +

Chat channel.

That's what I meant >.<, That using a chat channel was a great idea.

figq

12519 Posts

June 24 2011 19:03 GMT

#194

Once this first "independent ladder" is fully implemented, it would be nice to extend it to support multiple ladders - different people would prefer to play on different sets of maps as their ladder. So, you may have that in mind while designing the current ladder implementation. In either case, this is great!

Blixy213

United States360 Posts

June 24 2011 19:11 GMT

#195

These are some big plans!

Best of luck to you!

Edit: Just a few questions for now, as time goes on, will there be channels like NTBL (D) or NTBL(B) that are for players of that skill rank? Or will this external client have this feature implemented?

Are your final goals looking like a ladder system nearly identical to the ICcup format and how it was played out?

Like I said before, I'm looking forward to seeing how this progresses, keep at it guys!

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

June 24 2011 19:29 GMT

#196

On June 25 2011 04:11 Blixy213 wrote:
These are some big plans!

Best of luck to you!

Edit: Just a few questions for now, as time goes on, will there be channels like NTBL (D) or NTBL(B) that are for players of that skill rank? Or will this external client have this feature implemented?

Are your final goals looking like a ladder system nearly identical to the ICcup format and how it was played out?

Like I said before, I'm looking forward to seeing how this progresses, keep at it guys!

He said that, assuming it gets popular enough he does plan on having different channels for different ranks just like iccup. Really hoping this catches on to like every competitive player including the pro's. Would be amazing.

rooting for this to be super successful! Again good luck guys :D

Jermstuddog

United States2231 Posts

June 24 2011 19:33 GMT

#197

By far my favorite detail so far with NTBL is that "Player 2" is on the Leader Board, has wins, and is ranked higher than several people.

zhurai

United States5660 Posts

June 24 2011 20:22 GMT

#198

I'd like to help with the programming (for any of it really depending I guess) (though don't rely on me too much atm, as I'm currently trying to balance my life with (this?), actual playing of SC2, other work (school, job/freelancing) ^_~

where/who do I contact..

angrybacon

United States98 Posts

June 24 2011 20:26 GMT

#199

On June 25 2011 04:33 Jermstuddog wrote:
By far my favorite detail so far with NTBL is that "Player 2" is on the Leader Board, has wins, and is ranked higher than several people.

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

SwordfishConspiracy

United States146 Posts

June 24 2011 20:35 GMT

#200

I didn't play BW other than UMS games so I'm not familiar at all with now iCCup worked, but this does sound like a really cool idea. I'll be sure to check it out.