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Hyperi0n
Greece20 Posts
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justjuice
New Zealand165 Posts
On February 20 2011 05:36 Hyperi0n wrote: Here is some pro bladehunter usage. This is the 4th time i've tried him and I find him one of the very good heroes, and the other ultis look just as good as the mods [url blocked] Hey there don't mean to be critical but could you please refrain from posting pub replays? No point watching someone kill noobs who stand there and die ;P | ||
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Hyperi0n
Greece20 Posts
On February 20 2011 06:06 justjuice wrote: Hey there don't mean to be critical but could you please refrain from posting pub replays? No point watching someone kill noobs who stand there and die ;P It's not like I can do anything else, unlike the US servers I haven't been able to find many good players to play a decent game and the game is on the second page now. Care to help me? | ||
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assajocuna
Korea (South)125 Posts
 When we get the site open and the forum running, we'll be able to upload some replays. | ||
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NamelessZero
United States41 Posts
On February 20 2011 05:20 assajocuna wrote: If you try doing 1 on 1 between any of the melee heroes against genesic's mode, with 1 mana potion genesic won't be able to beat them until late game when he can survive skill combination (meaning when he has enough hp). Both Blade hunter and Lurcellant does more damage per second with mode. But considering the early stage of the game, the other ulti is better for all 3 mode heroes. Assa is right. The key is to make sure you don't get jumped or caught off your guard. If you can maintain constant intel on where your biggest threats are, you can stop them badly in the early game. Against practically any other melee that chose a damage ulti rather than a mode, the mode hero is going to get smashed. The reason seems unclear to most at the moment as lower levels of play tend to show modes as a major threat. The problem that mode heroes have is that they are severely lacking in burst damage, thus making them far less powerful in a potioned melee vs melee burst. However, unless you'd like to have your head handed to you with a bow on it, you better maintain your advantage against someone like Genesic. If you see he's picked Rampage mode and you let him maintain an equal level to you or even gain a level advantage over you, you're looking at a large threat in the endgame. You'll be forced at that point to double and even triple team that Genesic to stop him. It's a well-known fact that a Rampage Gene that's been unchecked can destroy your base on his own with very little need for backup. Modes are more of a late-game threat than early. You can shut them down early and gain major advantages after destroying their buildings for the gas advantage. | ||
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NamelessZero
United States41 Posts
On February 20 2011 05:36 Hyperi0n wrote: Here is some pro bladehunter usage. This is the 4th time i've tried him and I find him one of the very good heroes, and the other ultis look just as good as the mods [url blocked] That's not really a pro replay. That's you picking a hero you've only played 4 times and trashing a bunch of noobs who stand there to take the beatdown. Start up the Cityoftempest channel on your server and promote the popularity of the game. Teach some people or refer them here to this forum thread and you'll start to have more competition. | ||
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starrk
Sweden4 Posts
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Eliwadee
5 Posts
On February 19 2011 18:52 TobyOrNotToby wrote: I am tired of terrible pub teammates, looking for some decent people to play with; say your #1 or 2 in most of your games. PS I dont really mind modes, have not been owned by one lately. TobyOrNotTob (no y) 930 Yesterday i played against you! You're team had arcane and abel. I really enjoy it. gg, i would like to paly with you again. ^^ | ||
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Deken
United States14 Posts
Could he change the character color that is the same color as the units? I use the minimap to find players quickly both on my team and on the enemy team and the players that have colors that match the marines gives them an easy advantage over players in colors like green or blue | ||
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okajunior
United States125 Posts
http://www.mediafire.com/?ukuu1dxis50by59 Hype DUN DUN DUN! | ||
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TobyOrNotToby
Netherlands18 Posts
On February 20 2011 10:06 Eliwadee wrote: Yesterday i played against you! You're team had arcane and abel. I really enjoy it. gg, i would like to paly with you again. ^^ Ah that 1, i was playing with starrk, but he wasn't in that game. He is really good btw (with guard fire haven't seen him play else) But abel tends to work decently well for me. Going random doesn't work that well, since every hero plays very differently. Would like to play with you too just add me and send a message. | ||
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Eliwadee
5 Posts
On February 20 2011 18:58 TobyOrNotToby wrote: Ah that 1, i was playing with starrk, but he wasn't in that game. He is really good btw (with guard fire haven't seen him play else) But abel tends to work decently well for me. Going random doesn't work that well, since every hero plays very differently. Would like to play with you too just add me and send a message. I think you used Hades! I had Abel too and we played almost 1 h 30m. However i will add you.^^ | ||
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NoBeardAsianPirate
United States5 Posts
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Lucius22
172 Posts
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TobyOrNotToby
Netherlands18 Posts
On February 20 2011 19:29 Eliwadee wrote: I think you used Hades! I had Abel too and we played almost 1 h 30m. However i will add you.^^ Ah hades is a baller; I do have a question about him though: How much damage does his pylon actually do? It says something like 10 but it rapes anything, it is very deceiving. Is it that the attack speed is very fast or am i missing something? This story show the lvl of pub games. I was playing vs a team of Hades, LurCelland and GeneSic Hunter. Playing Phantom Gazette, they were whining and bitching about me playing like a scrub for not facing them 1v1 head on; and that I was scared of their skill. (the whining was mainly the Lur and GeneSic) But on what lvl does it mean that your the most newbie player when you use your hero effectively. Btw did i see correctly that Rampage mode decreases damage taken. And i do agree that you need to balance the game towards inhouse play, but on pub lvl genesic is a big issue, since if i do not lane against him he gets a few early kills and gets out of control. | ||
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assajocuna
Korea (South)125 Posts
the opponent in the field. If the opponent has 6 movement speed or above, you really need to use it way ahead expecting where they will come to. Because of this, Zedait is hard against fast heroes. I'll check on the tooltip thanks. Hades pylons do damage per 0.1 second i believe. It starts very low... so 10 damage is probably when you invested a lot of points into str. It would be dumb to 1v1 with Phantom against melee characters unless your level is way ahead of them and u've bought plenty of items. Norally Phantom is used to help your teammates on other lanes since u can cliffwalk fast. Rampage does increase armor as we've tried without the armor option in korean server 2-3 months ago... and the mode became completely useless so had to change back to default (which is the way it is now). I think once we get the site going on and get guides up for everyone to read, we'll see pub lvl increase and get to know how to deal with modes. | ||
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assajocuna
Korea (South)125 Posts
advantage being ranged). There are so many better heroes excluding melee heroes. All the summon type heroes are good against modes, Soul hunter obviously has ice ulti that dispells modes. Dark Fact can slow modes to death. Zedait can ulti + c skill and if it can't kill the hero u can turn on booster and run away easily (fastest hero in game). Phantom and Bagullion can obviously cliffwalk run away most of the times and just gank whenever u want. Melee character without the damaging ulti has so many weakness. Also Guard fire can ulti trap and summon flametower surrounding enemy. Zava can outdamage any mode heroes until late game. Janne can either trap with force field and nuke him to death or trap him when he comes to the cliff with small force fields, or even defensive force fields make melee modes useless. People should try and learn other characters i mean there are so many good characters other than melee modes. Actually if you want to get good at this game, i recommend not to play modes. If you want to play melee pick the damage ulti, or try ranged heroes so it can help you practice aiming skills. | ||
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NamelessZero
United States41 Posts
I do, however, disagree with the statement that it'd be suicide to face Phantom 1v1 as a melee on even terms as I've played against iDra with him using Phantom and I was using Blade Hunter and Zeros. In the early game with some well-placed EMP shots, you can stop most melee in their tracks along with your cliffwalking. He was often able to force a potion as well and simply retreat. That's a bit hard to compare though as iDra is probably the best Phantom on the NA server at the moment and has spent countless days perfecting his build and technique. | ||
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Hyperi0n
Greece20 Posts
On February 21 2011 02:31 NamelessZero wrote: I've actually seen some amazing Janne forcefield usage in the Korean replay pack that you sent and highly recommend that people watch it as well. It's absolutely brutal against melee and was used in the end-game to prevent three melee heroes from getting to the final building by forcefielding every single entrance. I do, however, disagree with the statement that it'd be suicide to face Phantom 1v1 as a melee on even terms as I've played against iDra with him using Phantom and I was using Blade Hunter and Zeros. In the early game with some well-placed EMP shots, you can stop most melee in their tracks along with your cliffwalking. He was often able to force a potion as well and simply retreat. That's a bit hard to compare though as iDra is probably the best Phantom on the NA server at the moment and has spent countless days perfecting his build and technique. Idra? The Gracken or someone else? =P On February 20 2011 08:35 starrk wrote: Hyperion, i consider myself adept at this game. if you give me your character-code we can play some games. Hyperion 571 | ||
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Lucius22
172 Posts
and i just wanna ask what was bugging me quite a lot: does armor only reduce normal attacks or also has an impact on skills? since i was always unsure if it was better to max health or armor after dmg and speed. | ||
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