EPT[UMS] (AOS) City of Tempest - Page 21
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0mar
United States567 Posts
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Hyperi0n
Greece20 Posts
On February 07 2011 00:14 Zman wrote: http://ch.gomtv.com/4555/28119/407379 #13 and #14 If you get bad speeds, I can PM a link where you can dl the VODs. At some point the download stops and some question marks pop up. Mind sending that link? | ||
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Corvette
United States433 Posts
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pride2518
Canada22 Posts
Stimpack > +1 attack. | ||
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pride2518
Canada22 Posts
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Corvette
United States433 Posts
so i think that is the difference there. | ||
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pride2518
Canada22 Posts
the ht character starts with 75 mana, which is enough for his first aoe skill. | ||
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virusak
Czech Republic344 Posts
On February 06 2011 23:03 burne- wrote: Dont get me wrong. Its just from my experience that those heroes are way more powerful than others. Its almost impossible to lose in public game no matter what heroes your play. Some just feel so much stronger than others. yeah some feel sooooooooo powerful, with long range so you have difficulty getting to them at all, or need no skill to use | ||
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NamelessZero
United States41 Posts
On February 07 2011 01:09 0mar wrote: this game desperately needs autostart when the lobby is full. I disagree with the current "Pending" desync bug, this is actually a good thing to have. By the way, I'm still trying to report Berr Nine is currently bugged. Unable to get ANY ultimate when choosing Snipe/Cloak. And to be fair to others, I'll go ahead and agree that yes, there does need to be a slightly higher cooldown on modes like Rampage and Knight. 20 seconds of downtime really isn't much for something so incredibly powerful. Genesic himself doesn't need to be nerfed, modes just need longer cooldowns or shorter durations. And finally, does anyone happen to have any pro replays of good Ron usage? I really can't seem to get the hang of him at all. | ||
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Hyperi0n
Greece20 Posts
http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=187301 This is me playing vs 2 of my buddies. My other teamates sucked and it was my 5th time playing with Gazette but overall I think its a satisfying game. | ||
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0mar
United States567 Posts
On February 07 2011 19:03 NamelessZero wrote: I disagree with the current "Pending" desync bug, this is actually a good thing to have. It hardly makes a difference. I'd say around 75% of the time, someone will drop on load. | ||
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SubjectSeven
Netherlands8 Posts
On February 06 2011 22:42 NamelessZero wrote: So you can't just invest gas into a teleport? You can't use tactics like slows from a distance as you see him coming because you were controlling the xel naga towers and pre-emptively start backing towards your base? Or set up a trap for him like Berr Nine's mines stacked like mad near the path to you? Point out with a ping that he's coming and have a teammate gank him with you? I know my Janne De'Arc strategy to deal with him was very hero specific but almost everyone has a way to avoid getting torn up by Genesic. Not all heroes have a way of directly dealing with him but everyone has a way of dealing with him whether it's just being very watchful or using micro or double-teaming. Wasn't that always the best way to deal with someone in any type of PvP where someone was a major threat? Pretty much always the way I saw it anyway; team up to eliminate a high priority target. Not every game has a pro but every game has three heroes on a team that can overpower a single hero if they all attack in an ambush. Dying to a player that chose a mode over another ultimate is usually your own fault, not the fault of the game being imbalanced. Not that my personal opinion counts for much but I tend to find every single hero in the game is great when used properly. Expand on your strengths and avoid your weaknesses. Use teamwork and don't ever pick Ron. (Just kidding about the Ron part, but he happens to be my worst hero. =P) sure i invest everything i can in speed/teleport when encountering a genesic. but only abel was teleport. blinking with the other claasses is just as fast as merely running away for someone bad at micro like me, while you can simply rightclick after me as the genesic player, meaning you need less skill, meaning it is imbalanced, since higher skill should mean higher win ratio. the other problem is that in 99% of the games your teammates either won't help or leave: while randomly joining a game on your own it's impossible (for me so far at least) to get people to actually kill that guy. and if you do, there are still other heroes, they're given a free farming license while you lose 2 mates to a genesic when you DO succeed (yeah, my games are that bad). my point is: since you need more skill to get away and strike back from/at a genesic than the other needs to command the genesic, this means there is an imbalanced amount of skill involved in an even match, meaning the hero itself is imbalanced. sure not every hero is the best choice against another, but 1. you don't know before you choose your hero that your opponent is a genesic, 2. there are a LOT of heroes that can't run properly from a 12 speed (mode+charge) Genesic, not just a few that are bad, al most all of the are bad. | ||
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NamelessZero
United States41 Posts
People are slowly getting better at CoT so in time, you'll be able to more easily combat such things with a random group but again, that's the thing, you're playing in a random pub. I'll admit that I still die to moderately good Genesics in randoms and often times will not be able to do anything about it. I just don't let it bother me as much. Genesic is good when used properly and hasn't had the nerfs that Lurcellant did. I tend to avoid them as much as I can in the late game as they're usually quite a bit stronger by that point. | ||
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bobbeh
Canada101 Posts
A ron replay I got others but this one was fun, against a sylon and zeros working together I used potions, You need to be able to spam the nydus worm and poison in between the nydus, if you put gas in mana you won't ever have any mana to spam nydus You guys should try using potions to beat genesic | ||
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Deken
United States14 Posts
I've noticed a few things. Hades is extremely powerful against melee heroes early game. The dark tower has over twice the life of the wimpy marines and can be brought out by lvl 2. Many beginners get killed by this, get too far behind and either leave early or feed the other team with exp/gas the rest of the game. To counter this, change lanes with a ranged player or kill the dark tower right when he casts it. Genesic is also extremely powerful early game. If you're going up against a genesic, watch for when he gets 300 mana and keep your distance. Also utilize the xel naga watch towers so you can run before he gets to you. Later on, you can buy health/shield/potions to just kite him. After that, he will most likely go for your defense. At that point, you should rush him and nuke him. Hopefully you will gain sweet revenge. You can also use towers defensively. I've trapped players like that on hills by spamming towers at the top, they see me (not the towers), rush me and get blown up before rampage can kill me. An acceptable nerf to rampage would be to cost 350-400 mana and 2 minerals to purchase. Ranged and/or skilled players should play middle early. I had great success ganking skilled players in the left and right lane last night with Guard Fire. Please read this beginner guide! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1920713884 Many mistakes I see new players make: Not killing exp boxes and trucks early game, mid game, and late game. It's always free gas and exp. If you're going somewhere, always travel close to the exp areas in each lane and kill them with an aoe spell. Auto attacking mid game and late game. I max out mana regen before I buy almost anything else (exception is booster). At that point, even with melee heroes, I pretty much never auto attack, I just spam spells. “That hero is OP.” I get this a lot. My hero is not OP, you just suck. If you notice someone who is doing really well, don’t just switch to that hero. Odds are, you won’t do nearly as well. Watch the replay, see how they did so well. The skill gaps in this game are tremendous! I rarely lose auto join games anymore and only lose if it’s 1v3 if the other team has decent players. I sometimes compare the skill gaps in this game to Blizzard’s ladder system. I consider myself a CT diamond player. If I was diamond in a quick match and played a bronze, I would destroy the bronze. The same is true for CT. The bottom line is that the game is mostly balanced. Some heroes counter others, but that’s where teammates come in. Tunnel (lane) vision. Remember to look on the minimap. Many smart players will scroll around for low health players to gank. You should also kill your teammates’ mobs if one of them dies. Better you kill them than the gun turrets. Please join channel cityoftempest for high-level games and add me Deken.817 for games! | ||
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Honker Jones
United States4 Posts
My friends and I are looking for competition. (Team of 3.) Add me: Honker / Code: 907 NamelessZero - We would definitely be down to play your team in private matches. Anyone else let me know. | ||
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Lucius2
Germany548 Posts
“That hero is OP.” I get this a lot. My hero is not OP, you just suck. If you notice someone who is doing really well, don’t just switch to that hero. Odds are, you won’t do nearly as well. Watch the replay, see how they did so well. The skill gaps in this game are tremendous! I rarely lose auto join games anymore and only lose if it’s 1v3 if the other team has decent players. I sometimes compare the skill gaps in this game to Blizzard’s ladder system. I consider myself a CT diamond player. If I was diamond in a quick match and played a bronze, I would destroy the bronze. The same is true for CT. The bottom line is that the game is mostly balanced. Some heroes counter others, but that’s where teammates come in. oh god yes, i got this retarded "LOL IMBA HERO, SO OP" with every single hero i got. i always random, so i dont have any influence and its really getting on my nerves when ppl whine all the time about OP heroes, only because they can't play. but mostly the games i randomly join end pretty boring. the overall skill is too low and thus ends in noob bashing with them leaving in the end. and i dont know how often i won 1v2/3. its only real fun when you face people of your equal skill who can use more than 1 skill per 2 seconds... | ||
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NamelessZero
United States41 Posts
I'm not the best CoT player by a long shot so don't look to get an amazing match.  I'd have to say if there was a ranking system for CoT, I'd be maybe low level Diamond. There's still a few tricks I've gotta learn here and there as well as gathering how to play a few select heroes a bit better. If I were to recommend a high level non-Korean CoT player for you, I'd say try to get in touch with a guy named Justin. Very experienced CoT player and I'd rank him as a "Master's League" player compared to the numerous players I've faced. | ||
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assajocuna
Korea (South)125 Posts
Justin is the first player from this forum i've played with a lot and he is really good. I guess he is probably much better by now (i haven't been able to play the game for a month now so busy lol). He would probably play like the non-pub korean clan level. If you guys feel that Modes (melee ulti) are too powerful (in lasting time and cooldown time) i'll suggest some fix to maxstorm. Don't know if it will work since i haven't seen any claims in korean sites. I do know that the best player in korea played mode during tournament once and killed the other team pretty badly and ever since that happened, more people are testing out best builds for modes. (instead of buying mana potions, they buy health potions etc) | ||
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pride2518
Canada22 Posts
I'm Marcus http://www.filefront.com/17915697/Ron.SC2Replay | ||
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