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Hyperi0n
Profile Joined December 2010
Greece20 Posts
February 12 2011 19:47 GMT
#441

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=188491
I present you another replay.
This was a match with force fire that I went 27-0 in. My team quit about midgame and then I was massacring the whole opposing team on my own. Enjoy
Educate men without faith and you but make them clever devils.
burne-
Profile Joined November 2010
71 Posts
February 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#442
Who would want to watch something with 27-0? It already tells me its a noob game.

Its quite common to get 20+-0
MrEpping
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands7 Posts
February 12 2011 20:28 GMT
#443
Why isn't the new version on EU yet?
It's the battle of Epping forest!
assajocuna
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)125 Posts
February 13 2011 00:03 GMT
#444
The new heroes are in test stage so there will be a lot of changes.

I think EU version gets updated right after NA update. If it didn't get updated,
it'll probably be updated after some tweaks.
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
February 13 2011 00:07 GMT
#445
On February 13 2011 09:03 assajocuna wrote:
The new heroes are in test stage so there will be a lot of changes.

I think EU version gets updated right after NA update. If it didn't get updated,
it'll probably be updated after some tweaks.



The silence spell is basically a death blow. There's nothing you can do except TP out. Slowed, extra damage and no energy usage is just too much. It lasts FOREVER too.

Other than that, I think only number tweaking is in order.
Deken
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14 Posts
February 13 2011 07:14 GMT
#446
I agree on horus. The slow radius is HUGE too. It helps that the range is small, but once you're in that slow, you're basically screwed

I also agree on ignis.. he is extremely similar to arcane, except arcane at least has some defense.
rkidwell
Profile Joined February 2011
1 Post
February 13 2011 16:15 GMT
#447
City of Tempest is awesome
I havent played anything else for the last two months

One of the reasons i started playing it over the other customs:
When i tried SOTIS, people kept asking me to leave
Playing so called "OP" heroes like Genesic Hunter, i was able to get an occasional kill by catching someone by surprise and it got me addicted
It just plain out rocks with the variety of heroes and styles of play

However, City of Tempest should definately NOT be on the second page of customs

We need to grow the game (or grow the sport)
We need more NOOBs to continue playing the game

That will ensure more games, more variety, less waiting, and eventually, more high level play

Some tips to grow the sport:

DO NOT TRY TO GO 27-0
what the #%@$ is the point of killing Noobs like that?
Does that take skill?
Anyone who brags about going 27-0 shows that he doesnt understand that any experienced player in any game can easily beat up on Noobs, much harder to go 10-5 against an experienced player
Try doing that against a player like GhostPanda who constantly whips my #%@$
Please, for the sake and future of the game, do not beat up on Noobs
There is no glory in killing someone 5 levels below you
It only discourages them to play again

INSTEAD OF KILLING NOOBS, GIVE THEM A TIP OR TWO
It takes a few seconds
I became addicted to the game 2months ago
I invited all my friends to start playing
Now when someone invites me to play ladder/WOW/etc, im inviting them to play City of Tempest

TRAINING A NOOB
when a friend wants to try it out
i start up a custom game with just both of us (or with another friend or two)
I tell them to pick an easier player like Genesic Hunter
I give them easy instructions:

The first screen alllows you to pick a hero
Go to lower left corner and pick Genesic Hunter

As soon as the game starts, go to right lower corner and use your one mineral to level up your mana (or you can just press tab R)

Then go to your lane (if you start left, go left lane, if you start right go right, if you start middle go middle)

Hit the first green capsule you see for experience

Then start hitting the marines to level up

First level up your mana to level 5. Each time you level up you get 2 minerals.

After that level up your attack x2

When you hit level 7 level your ultimate power Rampage Mode

Leveling up

Use your AOE attack to kill marines and also near clumps of green canisters

Killing marines or green canisters gives you experience to level up to 25, and also gives you gas

You only get experience with a kill, so hit stuff that is red and almost ready to die

Spending gas

Go to the Shop upper or lower corners
Gas buys things like

Mana regeneration for 750 gas
Do this with your first 750 gas. Increased mana means more spells means quicker levelling

Increased mana for 500 gas

Do both of those several times then can upgrade attack, shields, speed, etc depending on what you need for your opponent


Healing

Healing stations upper or lower corners
Always heal when your icon turns red
better to waste a few seconds going to heal vs giving your opponent a kill, gas and experience

There is also a more advanced tutorial from Deken
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1920713884

Cheers and enjoy helping me grow the sport




NamelessZero
Profile Joined February 2011
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 13:37:07
February 13 2011 19:34 GMT
#448
On February 14 2011 01:15 rkidwell wrote:
City of Tempest is awesome
I havent played anything else for the last two months

One of the reasons i started playing it over the other customs:
When i tried SOTIS, people kept asking me to leave
Playing so called "OP" heroes like Genesic Hunter, i was able to get an occasional kill by catching someone by surprise and it got me addicted
It just plain out rocks with the variety of heroes and styles of play

However, City of Tempest should definately NOT be on the second page of customs

We need to grow the game (or grow the sport)
We need more NOOBs to continue playing the game

That will ensure more games, more variety, less waiting, and eventually, more high level play

Some tips to grow the sport:

DO NOT TRY TO GO 27-0
what the #%@$ is the point of killing Noobs like that?
Does that take skill?
Anyone who brags about going 27-0 shows that he doesnt understand that any experienced player in any game can easily beat up on Noobs, much harder to go 10-5 against an experienced player
Try doing that against a player like GhostPanda who constantly whips my #%@$
Please, for the sake and future of the game, do not beat up on Noobs
There is no glory in killing someone 5 levels below you
It only discourages them to play again

INSTEAD OF KILLING NOOBS, GIVE THEM A TIP OR TWO
It takes a few seconds
I became addicted to the game 2months ago
I invited all my friends to start playing
Now when someone invites me to play ladder/WOW/etc, im inviting them to play City of Tempest

TRAINING A NOOB
when a friend wants to try it out
i start up a custom game with just both of us (or with another friend or two)
I tell them to pick an easier player like Genesic Hunter
I give them easy instructions:

The first screen alllows you to pick a hero
Go to lower left corner and pick Genesic Hunter

As soon as the game starts, go to right lower corner and use your one mineral to level up your mana (or you can just press tab R)

Then go to your lane (if you start left, go left lane, if you start right go right, if you start middle go middle)

Hit the first green capsule you see for experience

Then start hitting the marines to level up

First level up your mana to level 5. Each time you level up you get 2 minerals.

After that level up your attack x2

When you hit level 7 level your ultimate power Rampage Mode

Leveling up

Use your AOE attack to kill marines and also near clumps of green canisters

Killing marines or green canisters gives you experience to level up to 25, and also gives you gas

You only get experience with a kill, so hit stuff that is red and almost ready to die

Spending gas

Go to the Shop upper or lower corners
Gas buys things like

Mana regeneration for 750 gas
Do this with your first 750 gas. Increased mana means more spells means quicker levelling

Increased mana for 500 gas

Do both of those several times then can upgrade attack, shields, speed, etc depending on what you need for your opponent


Healing

Healing stations upper or lower corners
Always heal when your icon turns red
better to waste a few seconds going to heal vs giving your opponent a kill, gas and experience

There is also a more advanced tutorial from Deken
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1920713884

Cheers and enjoy helping me grow the sport







First off, everyone starts off a noob. They need to be killed so they learn the hard way. You can't just let them roam free to kill creeps and destroy buildings so that's kind of a bad bit of advice. Also, if you're just getting Rampage mode at level 7, you're doing terrible. If you're investing gas early into max mana, you're doing terrible.

Your guide has a lot of enthusiasm but it's very inaccurate and will only lead to more people becoming noobs. You need to go into some private games with some very experienced players before you start giving advice. Most very skilled players almost NEVER invest into max mana via gas in the early game before shields and attack and so on.

Please remove this guide from your post but do keep the rest of the enthusiasm. I agree whole-heartedly that CoT needs to grow and I'd love to start seeing tournaments being held as well as some English websites and fansites.

EDIT: Also, you're a jerk for telling people to pick Genesic Hunter as their starting characters. Not only is he a cheesy character, but he'll never teach you anything about the importance of good micro, tower control, and click accuracy. If people start picking Genesic in the beginning, they'll pick him from then on and when they get into higher level games and get roflstomped, they'll blame imbalance (which already happens far too often in CoT as it stands)
Hyperi0n
Profile Joined December 2010
Greece20 Posts
February 13 2011 20:22 GMT
#449
On February 14 2011 01:15 rkidwell wrote:
City of Tempest is awesome
I havent played anything else for the last two months

One of the reasons i started playing it over the other customs:
When i tried SOTIS, people kept asking me to leave
Playing so called "OP" heroes like Genesic Hunter, i was able to get an occasional kill by catching someone by surprise and it got me addicted
It just plain out rocks with the variety of heroes and styles of play

However, City of Tempest should definately NOT be on the second page of customs

We need to grow the game (or grow the sport)
We need more NOOBs to continue playing the game

That will ensure more games, more variety, less waiting, and eventually, more high level play

Some tips to grow the sport:

DO NOT TRY TO GO 27-0
what the #%@$ is the point of killing Noobs like that?
Does that take skill?
Anyone who brags about going 27-0 shows that he doesnt understand that any experienced player in any game can easily beat up on Noobs, much harder to go 10-5 against an experienced player
Try doing that against a player like GhostPanda who constantly whips my #%@$
Please, for the sake and future of the game, do not beat up on Noobs
There is no glory in killing someone 5 levels below you
It only discourages them to play again

INSTEAD OF KILLING NOOBS, GIVE THEM A TIP OR TWO
It takes a few seconds
I became addicted to the game 2months ago
I invited all my friends to start playing
Now when someone invites me to play ladder/WOW/etc, im inviting them to play City of Tempest

TRAINING A NOOB
when a friend wants to try it out
i start up a custom game with just both of us (or with another friend or two)
I tell them to pick an easier player like Genesic Hunter
I give them easy instructions:

The first screen alllows you to pick a hero
Go to lower left corner and pick Genesic Hunter

As soon as the game starts, go to right lower corner and use your one mineral to level up your mana (or you can just press tab R)

Then go to your lane (if you start left, go left lane, if you start right go right, if you start middle go middle)

Hit the first green capsule you see for experience

Then start hitting the marines to level up

First level up your mana to level 5. Each time you level up you get 2 minerals.

After that level up your attack x2

When you hit level 7 level your ultimate power Rampage Mode

Leveling up

Use your AOE attack to kill marines and also near clumps of green canisters

Killing marines or green canisters gives you experience to level up to 25, and also gives you gas

You only get experience with a kill, so hit stuff that is red and almost ready to die

Spending gas

Go to the Shop upper or lower corners
Gas buys things like

Mana regeneration for 750 gas
Do this with your first 750 gas. Increased mana means more spells means quicker levelling

Increased mana for 500 gas

Do both of those several times then can upgrade attack, shields, speed, etc depending on what you need for your opponent


Healing

Healing stations upper or lower corners
Always heal when your icon turns red
better to waste a few seconds going to heal vs giving your opponent a kill, gas and experience

There is also a more advanced tutorial from Deken
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1920713884

Cheers and enjoy helping me grow the sport





I haven't heard of anyone qutting if you pwn them in a game, if I was killed badly
in a new game mode I would want to play again to get even better and reach the skill level of my opponent. On the other case giving "tips" would only project an elitism that a would only hurt this game mode's population.
Imo, the best way to increase the people playing would be maybe to improve the english community as in getting a some patch notes in english posted here or explain a few skills which are hard to understand (claria point bonus>?)
Like NamelessZero said, we need some english sites up and a place where people can give proper advice to each other. I would love to help translate some skills and descriptions better and help with the eu and english versions of this mod.
Also If someone could teach meh how to do that charge acceleration thing with no target that I saw in the korean replays that would be great

My code is Hyperion 571 and I play on the eu server I would like to play with skilled players and help newer ones, hit me up.
Educate men without faith and you but make them clever devils.
Sapheix
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1 Post
February 14 2011 00:10 GMT
#450
Sapheix.516
Europe
Lesson 1
Eleven-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States11 Posts
February 14 2011 00:34 GMT
#451
I've played a couple matches of this and I have to admit it's quite fun.

Does anyone have any guides/advice for a new player such as what to spend gas on?
Lucius22
Profile Joined February 2011
172 Posts
February 14 2011 00:59 GMT
#452
what does the smoke grenade of tosh/megagun zord exactly do?

it says something about confusion about attack dmg, but i could not see any effect somehow.
assajocuna
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)125 Posts
February 14 2011 05:30 GMT
#453
Smoke grenade makes you (if u are inside the smoke) take 50% less damage from
ranged attacks, including skills. (no effect against melee) Also i believe if you smoke bomb
turrets or firing buildings, their attack damage becomes 50% too. I'm not quite sure if it
changed.

I'm really thinking about making a web site for this game but i barely have time these days
Need some forums for guides, patch notes, and all that stuff. It's hard to see in tl forum thread
like this.

Also we should maybe organize a small tournament just to gather people and play for fun.
There probably is a lot of good players by now, just need to organize an event and see.

What happened in korea is when we organized a small tournament after around 2 months into
game, there were actually quite a lot of good players, and after the replays from the tourney
went public, the general level of pub games increased greatly. I wonder if that'll happen too
in NA and EU.
galenkan
Profile Joined February 2011
39 Posts
February 14 2011 06:02 GMT
#454
Eleven-

I think it really depends on your hero on what to spend your gas on (and what skills you've invested in). Personally, I prefer the Attack Upgrade with my first 800 gas (which will let you start destroying the experience boxes and trucks much more quickly, and a lot easier to harass your laning opponent as well if you have decent range). After that, keep in mind to have a health and mana potion in case you end up fighting, get shields and health if they are one shotting you, and mana regen when you start to attack the enemy barracks.
justjuice
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand165 Posts
February 14 2011 10:03 GMT
#455
TOURNEY YES! time to start playing again haha. hmm assa you want to be in our team?
NapstaR
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany128 Posts
February 14 2011 10:30 GMT
#456
i dont play it very often but everytime i do, i see that "generic hunter" (the normal zelot) is still imbalanced -.- i'll wait till he's patched.

-last time played was last night.
NamelessZero
Profile Joined February 2011
United States41 Posts
February 14 2011 13:25 GMT
#457

Also If someone could teach meh how to do that charge acceleration thing with no target that I saw in the korean replays that would be great



Charge a building or anything charge-able and then right as your charge begins, click attack-move to wherever you wanna charge towards. You gotta be fast but it's very handy on cutting down your idle/downtime when traveling as well as being great for a retreat.
NamelessZero
Profile Joined February 2011
United States41 Posts
February 14 2011 13:34 GMT
#458
On February 14 2011 15:02 galenkan wrote:
Eleven-

I think it really depends on your hero on what to spend your gas on (and what skills you've invested in). Personally, I prefer the Attack Upgrade with my first 800 gas (which will let you start destroying the experience boxes and trucks much more quickly, and a lot easier to harass your laning opponent as well if you have decent range). After that, keep in mind to have a health and mana potion in case you end up fighting, get shields and health if they are one shotting you, and mana regen when you start to attack the enemy barracks.


Health potions in the early game against seasoned players will almost always be a waste of gas. A health potion isn't going to protect you from a mana-potioned skillspam. The regen is just far too slow. Mana regen helps with creep killing but in high level games, it's not all that great for killing enemy structures. For example, take Sylon, the highest combo output in the game - If you use his ultimate and then a potion and then spam your other skills on any enemy structure, it's gonna drop in a handful of seconds and this can be done in the super-early game for a mere 350 gas. Or you can wait until level 15 and try to do it slower with maxed mana regen and probably get jumped as they come to defend their still-standing structures.
Lucius22
Profile Joined February 2011
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 14:05:39
February 14 2011 13:35 GMT
#459
On February 14 2011 14:30 assajocuna wrote:
Smoke grenade makes you (if u are inside the smoke) take 50% less damage from
ranged attacks, including skills. (no effect against melee) Also i believe if you smoke bomb
turrets or firing buildings, their attack damage becomes 50% too. I'm not quite sure if it
changed..


ok thx, but really the tooltip should be more accurate here.

and another bug: the high templar now has finally all hotkeys working, but the tooltip on the upgrade to make this orb additionally slow is bugged. though when selected the skill itself displays it properly and hotkey is working aswell. its just the button to upgrade this orb.


edit: oh and is there any place to check the patch notes on the eu version?
NamelessZero
Profile Joined February 2011
United States41 Posts
February 14 2011 13:41 GMT
#460
On February 14 2011 14:30 assajocuna wrote:
I'm really thinking about making a web site for this game but i barely have time these days
Need some forums for guides, patch notes, and all that stuff. It's hard to see in tl forum thread
like this.

Also we should maybe organize a small tournament just to gather people and play for fun.
There probably is a lot of good players by now, just need to organize an event and see.




I'd love to see a website made for this game and I'm sure there's many here that agree and many to help you in the development.

I WANT THIS TOURNAMENT! I highly doubt I'll come out on top or even near the top but this tournament needs to happen. If it does, we're gonna see a huge increase in players so long as we get the word out about tournaments starting for it.
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