small things i've noticed on bgh:
- zerglings can't run through a wall of supply depots
- nydus canal entrance has a footprint of 3x3 instead of 2x2
- entrance and exit have separate models
- units don't go out of canal instantly
- dropship still has energy

and btw no pushing is awesome

Randomaccount#77123

United States5003 Posts

November 04 2010 03:10 GMT

#1022

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MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

November 04 2010 05:02 GMT

#1023

i've been looking at flingy.dat and it's doing my head in. im not able to work out the correct calculations.
currently using arsenal 3 to view the values but... i dont think the fields are named correctly

Ohdamn

Germany765 Posts

November 04 2010 12:33 GMT

#1024

pretty sweet changes with the latest update

BUT

VOTE FOR QUEEN!!!!!

RoarMan

Canada745 Posts

November 04 2010 13:06 GMT

#1025

On November 04 2010 14:02 MavercK wrote:
i've been looking at flingy.dat and it's doing my head in. im not able to work out the correct calculations.
currently using arsenal 3 to view the values but... i dont think the fields are named correctly

What values are you trying to look for? On liquipedia there are a ton of values that seem to be sneakily hiding which I have run into.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Unit_Movement_Speed

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/List_of_Unit_and_Building_Sizes

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

November 04 2010 13:22 GMT

#1026

i've already incorporated all the unit movement speeds from that url.
some of the unit/building sizes i've incorporated but alot of it's wrong as fine tuning it is basically impossible atm.

but in terms of turning rate, acceleration, deceleration i've simply been guessing so far.

TwilightStar

United States649 Posts

November 04 2010 14:41 GMT

#1027

This looks/sounds so ridiculously fun. Can't wait to try it out.

lololol

5198 Posts

November 04 2010 16:49 GMT

#1028

Arsenal 3 has a lot of the things not named correctly or listed as unknown, since it's very old. DatEdit is a lot newer and better, and the only flaw I can think of currently is that you can't see how long are the melee ranges.

MindRush

Romania916 Posts

November 04 2010 17:47 GMT

#1029

i like this
why not check this out ?
playing BW with better graphics is ok, even just for ol' times sake
nostalgics will thank MavercK for this

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

November 04 2010 22:15 GMT

#1030

On November 05 2010 01:49 lololol wrote:

Show nested quote +

i wasn't aware datedit could view flingy.dat?
in that case i'll have another look

*EDIT*
ah yes. was right infront of me the entire time.

Retgery

Canada1229 Posts

November 04 2010 22:46 GMT

#1031

I just wish there were more people to play with

Dugrok

Canada377 Posts

November 04 2010 23:29 GMT

#1032

Oh man, this is finally up? I know what I'm doing tonight!

zingmars

Latvia189 Posts

November 05 2010 14:36 GMT

#1033

EDIT2: Forget this, I played an older version of the map, which had alot of bugs.
Anyway something weird happened. I played against zerg medium AI in the latest version up on EU and the enemy had a baneling nest. wtf? o_O

danielrh

34 Posts

November 05 2010 17:48 GMT

#1034

Hey folks: I'm new to the forum so I couldn't create a thread (though I would appreciate it if someone did for me) but started out independently working on a Starcraft 1 remake just like Maverck. Recently I found his version, and published my version, and now I've tried my best to merge them into a .SCMod

Anyhow I have a step-by-step guide with screenshots how to add SC1 tech to any existing map with just a few clicks.

The main difference between my work and Maverck's is that my mod leaves SC2 technology in tact, so the AI operates properly and also so you can do SC1 vs SC2 battles--you could even randomly choose what the players have to play)

anyhow the guide is here:
http://graphics.stanford.edu/~danielrh/sc1to2tutorial/

Again: I'd love it if someone made a new topic for the guide.

PS: the funny thing is that independently Maverck and myself made the dragoon in the same way: by chopping off an immortal turret. We went about it in different ways: I made a binary patch for the immortal.m3 that came with starcraft2 by searching for vertices within a set of bounding boxes, and I think he used 3dsmax or a 3d editor, but they look exactly the same outside an arbiter cloaking field.

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

November 05 2010 21:30 GMT

#1035

On November 05 2010 23:36 zingmars wrote:
EDIT2: Forget this, I played an older version of the map, which had alot of bugs.
Anyway something weird happened. I played against zerg medium AI in the latest version up on EU and the enemy had a baneling nest. wtf? o_O

ai wont work. it's a pretty big job reconditioning blizzard ai to work with my mod.

GeForceFX

Lithuania101 Posts

November 06 2010 08:15 GMT

#1036

Dragoons.. eh... :/ Give me back my dragoons!

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

November 06 2010 16:36 GMT

#1037

changes i've been working on

was able to hack together a way to convert speed and acceleration from flingy.dat

Dropship no longer has Energy (for real this time)
Mutalisk Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 3.25 > 1.75
Scourge Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 3.25 > 2.625
Drone/Probe/SCV Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 3.25 > 1.75
Guardian Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 1.0 > 0.6875
Arbiter Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 3.25 > 0.875
Carrier Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 1.0 > 0.6875
Scout Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 1.875 > 1.25
Shuttle Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 2.125 > 0.4375
High Templar Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 1000 > 0.6875
Observer Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 2.125 > 0.6875
Battlecruiser Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 1.0 > 0.6875
Dropship Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 2.3125 > 0.4375
Wraith Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 2.625 > 1.75
Vulture Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 1000 > 2.625
Devourer Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 2.0 > 1.25
Corsair Acceleration/Deceleration reduced from 3.25 > 1.75
Pretty much every "Projectile" Weapon has had it's speed/acceleration tweaked
Mutalisk Attack Impact Effect increased in Scale by 50% (much more visible)
Drone/Probe/SCV "Mineral Harvest Time" reduced from 5.0 > 4.4575

Essbee

Canada2371 Posts

November 06 2010 18:40 GMT

#1038

Really cool, thanks.

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

November 07 2010 05:39 GMT

#1039

theres also this

+ Show Spoiler +

this + a traditional FMP map in a coming version.

nalgene

Canada2153 Posts

November 07 2010 10:29 GMT

#1040

By the way, do the spider mines do 125? They changed the values in the campaign to like 70-80 or something

hydralisk spines, are they like the SC2 ones? they seem like they're nearly invisible in the attack anims