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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
May 13 2008 16:24 GMT
#41
Hey guys,

Every single game of starcraft can be summed up with a bunch of "what if's". How about everyone just enjoy the game for what it is instead of critiquing the players, ok?
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
AnWh
Profile Joined April 2004
Sweden220 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-13 16:44:34
May 13 2008 16:43 GMT
#42
Loved this game, especially the end emp

But i do think Artosis would gain much on pushing more careful though. It was the same in the TSL game on Longinus vs Slider (?). His tanks tend to siege in a big clumps which affects the game alot. Personally i think that had larger impact on this game than the 5 fac / 4k mineral thing.
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
May 13 2008 17:03 GMT
#43
as i said .. Nony with no arbiters and carriers (what is very weird especialy from him). Weird game.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 13 2008 17:44 GMT
#44
yes you did say that, why repeat? Dramatic effect?

Listen people this isnt a hard concept. Part of what bothered me so bad with GG.net is uploaders didnt have any admin status and 99% of the comments were just senseless bashing of the playersin the replay. I have no idea where this negative shit comes from. No, not everything has to be positive and appraising but at the same time if you are going to take the time to criticize a player it should be out of respect and well thought. Saying "he didnt make carriers or arbiters" is the most inane base logic argument I have ever heard. He also didnt make reavers, dark archons etc. He could have smashed him with 125 splash damage scarabs oh wow! Or MC'd his entire army gg.. But those arguments are retarded because they are just blurts. If you want to make a well thought out argument with constructed ideas followed with evidence that is welcomed. One liners that are absent of constructive intent or just jabs at the players are best left somewhere else.

This is unique to the replay section especially the replays I upload because a majority of the replays I upload are by community players. Players that are doing US a favor by allowing their games to be shared. Being a jerk will only increase the chances of them not wanting to share. So please, if you have some constructive criticism to share do so but do it respectfully and logically. Nobody reads a one liner and has a game changing epiphany.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 13 2008 18:14 GMT
#45
Carriers blow anyway on this map.

Arbiters are good for statis but going pure ground is fine on this map. Lots of open space. It gives you way more room to manouvre because arbiters are micro intensive so you can't micro your army as well.

Great game btw, enjoyed it a lot, thanks.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
May 13 2008 20:27 GMT
#46
yeah really. sometimes teching to arbiters hurts your ground army control and you produce less units because of teh huge investment. arbs aren't some auto-pvt win. plenty of koreans tosses play late game without arbs or cars... amanet is just an idiot
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
May 13 2008 20:50 GMT
#47
Great game, NoNy is so wise player, very very good desiccion making , went to right places etc.
@20min mark I thought I was watching broken rep when I saw Artosis 4k/2k with 5 fac.. Nevertheless awsome rep from start to finish.
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 13 2008 22:09 GMT
#48
Incredibly entertaining game, thanks for sharing!

Getting a shuttle in the end instead of the additional units would've won Nony the game. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 and a draw seems like the right result for this game.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
May 14 2008 00:19 GMT
#49
On May 13 2008 07:11 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2008 05:57 ._. wrote:
Artosis always ends up playing all these goddamn long games.
Seriously man, cut some corners, you can't seriously be playing most your games THIS long..it would drive me mad..

I've only seen 1 replay of artosis where its under 20 minutes :| rest stretch out into the 30-60 minute marks wtf.


This might blow your mind but all the games I upload of him arent all the games he plays fairly amazing huh? I know. AMazing concept.

All the games you've posted are great, I know, its just that what separates him from Idra is his end-game ability, which I find lacking. The two play very identical but Idra has killer end-game ability while Artosis tends to drag on an advantage. Entertaining of course, but he still has much to build on, but he gets better and better and seems to have a strong drive, so more grand replays like this, I'm sure will come .
:D
omnigol
Profile Joined April 2008
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 07:54:48
May 14 2008 07:49 GMT
#50
Wow this game blew my mind. Somebody should commentate this one.

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The emp on the archons was perfect. Man that game was so so close.


I worry some of the more excitable commentators might die commentating this one though.
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
May 14 2008 09:11 GMT
#51
On May 13 2008 12:38 BlindAlbino wrote:
artosis is a chump terran, cant believe nony didnt walk all over him


i dont know either of them well but..

+ Show Spoiler +
i REALLYYY thought nony could have finished it or at least guaranteed the game at around 18 minutes. he was like what? 8 gateways > 5 factories and only 2 had machine shop? his 24 goons could have taken on those last like 8 tanks too... dont know what happened.

after reading tl.net, i hear about artosis being so good but if that is how good he is suppose to be then i guess nothing has changed since i quit playing.


kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
May 14 2008 10:23 GMT
#52
On May 14 2008 18:11 jjun212 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2008 12:38 BlindAlbino wrote:
artosis is a chump terran, cant believe nony didnt walk all over him


i dont know either of them well but..

+ Show Spoiler +
i REALLYYY thought nony could have finished it or at least guaranteed the game at around 18 minutes. he was like what? 8 gateways > 5 factories and only 2 had machine shop? his 24 goons could have taken on those last like 8 tanks too... dont know what happened.

after reading tl.net, i hear about artosis being so good but if that is how good he is suppose to be then i guess nothing has changed since i quit playing.



He didnt have maphack on
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 14:17:16
May 14 2008 14:16 GMT
#53
I thought that was awesome. I knew PvT could be played without Arbs or Carriers, I KNEW IT! RAWR!

You just need upgrades, that's all ;D

EDIT: and godly storms, forgot about that D:
Mango @ U.S.East!
inss
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States51 Posts
May 14 2008 14:18 GMT
#54
geegee
shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
May 14 2008 17:17 GMT
#55
Damn that EMP on the Archons was an excellent move it made me cringe though (P user).
Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 18:48:33
May 14 2008 18:47 GMT
#56
It was a good replay. I do however believe that arbs are a must have late game vs a strong terran with many resources to burn especially on python.
Hi
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 01:33:32
May 15 2008 01:32 GMT
#57
stage
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24770 Posts
May 15 2008 02:56 GMT
#58
Several people have blindly pointed out that there were no arbiters... and several admins etc have complained about this. I agree with the admins, despite the fact that I was definitely thinking there was a lack of arbs. However, unlike my predecessors I will explain why I think the lack of arbs cost Nony this game.

Obviously stasis would have given him another effective push breaking tool, at the expense of some gas. It seemed like he was overproducing ht to some extent though, so despite the sexy storms all over the place, he could have afforded at least a couple of arbs. I really felt like recall could have ended the game also. Once artosis was mining from 12 and that nat but producing from 3 it was clear to me that recalls were in order. The only thing stopping nony from walking into 3 was the block with a few units protecting it above the cliff.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
May 15 2008 06:17 GMT
#59
artosis ... these kind of games is the reason why ur balding...

i still love u
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 15 2008 14:01 GMT
#60
SO GOOOOD

Woooooooooooooow
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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