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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 12 2008 20:53 GMT
#1
NO POINT OF EMPHASIS

NO FUCKING SPOILER EXCEPT THIS + Show Spoiler +
DRAW


DL IT NOW
BooBoogers
Profile Joined March 2007
United States229 Posts
May 12 2008 20:55 GMT
#2
First! Wooo watching it right now!
Hmmm.....??
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
May 12 2008 20:57 GMT
#3
Artosis always ends up playing all these goddamn long games.
Seriously man, cut some corners, you can't seriously be playing most your games THIS long..it would drive me mad..

I've only seen 1 replay of artosis where its under 20 minutes :| rest stretch out into the 30-60 minute marks wtf.
:D
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
May 12 2008 20:59 GMT
#4
I DLED

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but my SC is uninstalled! oh noes



Member of the "Fuck Yeah, Canata !" committee :-) to join copy/paste this
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 12 2008 22:11 GMT
#5
On May 13 2008 05:57 ._. wrote:
Artosis always ends up playing all these goddamn long games.
Seriously man, cut some corners, you can't seriously be playing most your games THIS long..it would drive me mad..

I've only seen 1 replay of artosis where its under 20 minutes :| rest stretch out into the 30-60 minute marks wtf.


This might blow your mind but all the games I upload of him arent all the games he plays fairly amazing huh? I know. AMazing concept.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
May 12 2008 22:13 GMT
#6
Media? nony is haxcello now
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
May 12 2008 22:15 GMT
#7
Great Game

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For the last 15 minutes of the game when artosis was down to one CC, I was screaming, lift the CC closer to a cliff or edge. Knew he was going to lose that CC and end in a stalemate.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
May 12 2008 22:49 GMT
#8
sick harrass from artosis early on. his play really faltered through the midgame though.
the ending is gold
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
May 12 2008 22:50 GMT
#9
If i had my flash drive with starcraft on it right now this would end awesomely, since I'm at work.

And artosios plays a very defensive/turtle style. Which is why his games last so long i think.

Will watch it when i get home, never seen inc orgasm so muich over 1 rep.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
EnergyTraction
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada233 Posts
May 12 2008 23:08 GMT
#10
Well Artosis did a very nice fast push, which Nony countered very well too, good reflexes there Nony. I'm kind of surprised that Artosis managed to stay in the game in the midgame when he had 4000 minerals, 6 facs, and 140/200 supply, but he did.
He who adores the Beast shall drink of the wrath of God
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
May 12 2008 23:25 GMT
#11
oh my god
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
May 12 2008 23:26 GMT
#12
ive never gotten goosebumps and screamed at my monitor over an sc game but im gonna have to be honest and say it just happened.

soooooo awesome
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 12 2008 23:58 GMT
#13
On May 13 2008 08:26 CrownRoyal wrote:
ive never gotten goosebumps and screamed at my monitor over an sc game


You've obviously never played ZvP
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
May 13 2008 00:03 GMT
#14
really good game, but artosis should have won, his midgame macro was really bad
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
May 13 2008 00:44 GMT
#15
On May 13 2008 07:50 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
If i had my flash drive with starcraft on it right now this would end awesomely, since I'm at work.

And artosios plays a very defensive/turtle style. Which is why his games last so long i think.

Will watch it when i get home, never seen inc orgasm so muich over 1 rep.

he played totally opposite to his normal style (from games i've seen, anyway) in this game.
very offensive
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 13 2008 00:54 GMT
#16
This was one intense game, + Show Spoiler +
the lategame EMP on the archons and mopping them up with vultures was sexy
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
May 13 2008 01:52 GMT
#17
the ending of this game is just PRICELESS
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
May 13 2008 01:58 GMT
#18
one of the best games I have ever seen
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
May 13 2008 02:53 GMT
#19
Artosis is good, it's just too bad he can't perform as well as in practice games in tourneys :[
Very nice game.
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BlindAlbino
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Ecuador176 Posts
May 13 2008 03:38 GMT
#20
artosis is a chump terran, cant believe nony didnt walk all over him
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
May 13 2008 04:12 GMT
#21
On May 13 2008 12:38 BlindAlbino wrote:
artosis is a chump terran, cant believe nony didnt walk all over him

lol? artosis would have owned this game if his macro wasnt to poor in the midgame
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 13 2008 04:30 GMT
#22
Blindalbino was banned for several reasons but one of them was him flaming a player in this replay. It isnt some bias bullshit, it isnt TL preference or w/e garbage. It's someone being un unnecessary asshole in a replay featuring two tl.net posters who see these comments and dont want a practice game being exposed for no reason other than to be flamed. You can criticize. You can state opinions. But when you get mean, malicious or just rude it will not be tolerated. Fascist? Maybe. But that's how it is. This isn't a debate. Don't look to drag me into a flamewar. THis is hyow it is.

thanks
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 13 2008 04:48 GMT
#23
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at the end, could artosis have returned minerals to his refinery? he might have been able to pull the game off, although it would have taken forever
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 13 2008 04:53 GMT
#24
For a moment I thought inc had admin powers and was about to scream bloody murder but apparently the balance between chaos and nirvana is still in place. As always, nice replay and I'm glad you're providing us with these.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 13 2008 04:53 GMT
#25
On May 13 2008 13:48 talismania wrote:
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at the end, could artosis have returned minerals to his refinery? he might have been able to pull the game off, although it would have taken forever


You can only return minerals to Command Centers, not Refineries :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
May 13 2008 05:37 GMT
#26
OMG sooo nice game!

I really liked when artosis first knocked out 12 by ferrying troups to the upper cliff, nony lost a LOT of units just killing those 4 tanks and vults, and then artosis got him from below, sweet, really looked like it was nonys game just before that.

And then nony breaking 12 was quite epic too. mass storm!

And finally that monster emp killing 3 archon lol

and 2 vultures>the last dragoon, and the CC juuust died

omg so close!
Enter a Uh
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 13 2008 05:42 GMT
#27
really gg, but like someone above said, artosis missed some macro cycles in the mid-game that could have changed the game -_-
Sup
Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
May 13 2008 08:30 GMT
#28
artosis could have won...wtf :/

it would have taken a long time but he could have just matrixed his vultures and killed cannons...nony should have quit.
jmascis
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
May 13 2008 08:58 GMT
#29
On May 13 2008 17:30 p23s3 wrote:
artosis could have won...wtf :/

it would have taken a long time but he could have just matrixed his vultures and killed cannons...nony should have quit.


good point, emp cannons + dmatrix on vult. vult will still take 1 damage.
Now if you add the fact that Nony had an island...
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
May 13 2008 09:03 GMT
#30
On May 13 2008 17:30 p23s3 wrote:
artosis could have won...wtf :/

it would have taken a long time but he could have just matrixed his vultures and killed cannons...nony should have quit.

He also had 2 probes aswel, which he could of mined with :O

really really really niec game, but artosis mid game macro was really lacking, if he could of stepped that up he could of beaten down nony hard, but none the less a really niec tactical game, nonys storms were dead fucking on. That game was so back and fourth, i think when nony broke into the 12 nat and stormed away around 30 scvs it was the turning point from him losing to it being a draw.

Regardless, that game was fucking nice. Back and fourth back and fourth beauitful play, rarely am i ever amused by a TvP.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
May 13 2008 09:04 GMT
#31
oh and a nice change of style too from nony, i guess hes not used to being so agressive, that could account for his macro mishaps, but he more then made up for it with his awesome unit placement and micro.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
maVi
Profile Joined June 2003
Germany542 Posts
May 13 2008 09:35 GMT
#32
omg, havent seen such a cool game for a long time. i'm not even sure if i've EVER seen such a cool game -_-
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
May 13 2008 10:52 GMT
#33
dont understand why artosis didnt win, gonna watch it again ;s
Bergkamp ftw!
MoOnrai
Profile Joined February 2008
United States52 Posts
May 13 2008 12:22 GMT
#34
why cant americans just give a player his props and move on if they dont like it without bm? its called maturity. good rep artosis
Been runnin for to long its time to give me mine.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4520 Posts
May 13 2008 13:42 GMT
#35
wow artosis is not only good at commentating
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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 13 2008 14:30 GMT
#36
On May 13 2008 13:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
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On May 13 2008 13:48 talismania wrote:
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at the end, could artosis have returned minerals to his refinery? he might have been able to pull the game off, although it would have taken forever


You can only return minerals to Command Centers, not Refineries :p


oh I think I misunderstood then how the refinery trick works then... I guess it just exchanges what you have, doesn't actually return them.
LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
May 13 2008 15:05 GMT
#37
Nony didn't use carriers / arbiters .. why?
call me moxie
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
May 13 2008 15:21 GMT
#38
On May 14 2008 00:05 LegendaryDreams wrote:
Nony didn't use carriers / arbiters .. why?


man style!
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
May 13 2008 16:13 GMT
#39
wow, artosis is a very smart tvp'er...

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poor hts ;(
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-13 17:00:10
May 13 2008 16:17 GMT
#40
actualy nony played bad with no arbiters or carriers in mid and late game. 6/10
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
May 13 2008 16:24 GMT
#41
Hey guys,

Every single game of starcraft can be summed up with a bunch of "what if's". How about everyone just enjoy the game for what it is instead of critiquing the players, ok?
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AnWh
Profile Joined April 2004
Sweden220 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-13 16:44:34
May 13 2008 16:43 GMT
#42
Loved this game, especially the end emp

But i do think Artosis would gain much on pushing more careful though. It was the same in the TSL game on Longinus vs Slider (?). His tanks tend to siege in a big clumps which affects the game alot. Personally i think that had larger impact on this game than the 5 fac / 4k mineral thing.
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
May 13 2008 17:03 GMT
#43
as i said .. Nony with no arbiters and carriers (what is very weird especialy from him). Weird game.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 13 2008 17:44 GMT
#44
yes you did say that, why repeat? Dramatic effect?

Listen people this isnt a hard concept. Part of what bothered me so bad with GG.net is uploaders didnt have any admin status and 99% of the comments were just senseless bashing of the playersin the replay. I have no idea where this negative shit comes from. No, not everything has to be positive and appraising but at the same time if you are going to take the time to criticize a player it should be out of respect and well thought. Saying "he didnt make carriers or arbiters" is the most inane base logic argument I have ever heard. He also didnt make reavers, dark archons etc. He could have smashed him with 125 splash damage scarabs oh wow! Or MC'd his entire army gg.. But those arguments are retarded because they are just blurts. If you want to make a well thought out argument with constructed ideas followed with evidence that is welcomed. One liners that are absent of constructive intent or just jabs at the players are best left somewhere else.

This is unique to the replay section especially the replays I upload because a majority of the replays I upload are by community players. Players that are doing US a favor by allowing their games to be shared. Being a jerk will only increase the chances of them not wanting to share. So please, if you have some constructive criticism to share do so but do it respectfully and logically. Nobody reads a one liner and has a game changing epiphany.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 13 2008 18:14 GMT
#45
Carriers blow anyway on this map.

Arbiters are good for statis but going pure ground is fine on this map. Lots of open space. It gives you way more room to manouvre because arbiters are micro intensive so you can't micro your army as well.

Great game btw, enjoyed it a lot, thanks.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
May 13 2008 20:27 GMT
#46
yeah really. sometimes teching to arbiters hurts your ground army control and you produce less units because of teh huge investment. arbs aren't some auto-pvt win. plenty of koreans tosses play late game without arbs or cars... amanet is just an idiot
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
May 13 2008 20:50 GMT
#47
Great game, NoNy is so wise player, very very good desiccion making , went to right places etc.
@20min mark I thought I was watching broken rep when I saw Artosis 4k/2k with 5 fac.. Nevertheless awsome rep from start to finish.
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 13 2008 22:09 GMT
#48
Incredibly entertaining game, thanks for sharing!

Getting a shuttle in the end instead of the additional units would've won Nony the game. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 and a draw seems like the right result for this game.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
May 14 2008 00:19 GMT
#49
On May 13 2008 07:11 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
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On May 13 2008 05:57 ._. wrote:
Artosis always ends up playing all these goddamn long games.
Seriously man, cut some corners, you can't seriously be playing most your games THIS long..it would drive me mad..

I've only seen 1 replay of artosis where its under 20 minutes :| rest stretch out into the 30-60 minute marks wtf.


This might blow your mind but all the games I upload of him arent all the games he plays fairly amazing huh? I know. AMazing concept.

All the games you've posted are great, I know, its just that what separates him from Idra is his end-game ability, which I find lacking. The two play very identical but Idra has killer end-game ability while Artosis tends to drag on an advantage. Entertaining of course, but he still has much to build on, but he gets better and better and seems to have a strong drive, so more grand replays like this, I'm sure will come .
:D
omnigol
Profile Joined April 2008
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 07:54:48
May 14 2008 07:49 GMT
#50
Wow this game blew my mind. Somebody should commentate this one.

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The emp on the archons was perfect. Man that game was so so close.


I worry some of the more excitable commentators might die commentating this one though.
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
May 14 2008 09:11 GMT
#51
On May 13 2008 12:38 BlindAlbino wrote:
artosis is a chump terran, cant believe nony didnt walk all over him


i dont know either of them well but..

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i REALLYYY thought nony could have finished it or at least guaranteed the game at around 18 minutes. he was like what? 8 gateways > 5 factories and only 2 had machine shop? his 24 goons could have taken on those last like 8 tanks too... dont know what happened.

after reading tl.net, i hear about artosis being so good but if that is how good he is suppose to be then i guess nothing has changed since i quit playing.


kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
May 14 2008 10:23 GMT
#52
On May 14 2008 18:11 jjun212 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2008 12:38 BlindAlbino wrote:
artosis is a chump terran, cant believe nony didnt walk all over him


i dont know either of them well but..

+ Show Spoiler +
i REALLYYY thought nony could have finished it or at least guaranteed the game at around 18 minutes. he was like what? 8 gateways > 5 factories and only 2 had machine shop? his 24 goons could have taken on those last like 8 tanks too... dont know what happened.

after reading tl.net, i hear about artosis being so good but if that is how good he is suppose to be then i guess nothing has changed since i quit playing.



He didnt have maphack on
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 14:17:16
May 14 2008 14:16 GMT
#53
I thought that was awesome. I knew PvT could be played without Arbs or Carriers, I KNEW IT! RAWR!

You just need upgrades, that's all ;D

EDIT: and godly storms, forgot about that D:
Mango @ U.S.East!
inss
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States51 Posts
May 14 2008 14:18 GMT
#54
geegee
shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
May 14 2008 17:17 GMT
#55
Damn that EMP on the Archons was an excellent move it made me cringe though (P user).
Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 18:48:33
May 14 2008 18:47 GMT
#56
It was a good replay. I do however believe that arbs are a must have late game vs a strong terran with many resources to burn especially on python.
Hi
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 01:33:32
May 15 2008 01:32 GMT
#57
stage
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24771 Posts
May 15 2008 02:56 GMT
#58
Several people have blindly pointed out that there were no arbiters... and several admins etc have complained about this. I agree with the admins, despite the fact that I was definitely thinking there was a lack of arbs. However, unlike my predecessors I will explain why I think the lack of arbs cost Nony this game.

Obviously stasis would have given him another effective push breaking tool, at the expense of some gas. It seemed like he was overproducing ht to some extent though, so despite the sexy storms all over the place, he could have afforded at least a couple of arbs. I really felt like recall could have ended the game also. Once artosis was mining from 12 and that nat but producing from 3 it was clear to me that recalls were in order. The only thing stopping nony from walking into 3 was the block with a few units protecting it above the cliff.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
May 15 2008 06:17 GMT
#59
artosis ... these kind of games is the reason why ur balding...

i still love u
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 15 2008 14:01 GMT
#60
SO GOOOOD

Woooooooooooooow
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
May 15 2008 14:36 GMT
#61
Wow, excellent game. Thanks iNc
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
May 15 2008 20:05 GMT
#62
hopefully artosis will keep showing you reps, incontrol... Thanks!

artosis, if you're reading this just ignore the idiots...
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
May 16 2008 16:24 GMT
#63
nony probably didnt go arbiter or carrier because of the intense pressure put on by artosis, when you get into a flustered position you feel like if u sacfrice minerals for arbiters or carrier tech you will lose the game.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 16 2008 19:56 GMT
#64
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I didn't get when Artosis pushed to Nony's minonly why Nony went all-in at 12 to kill that....ebay.

But that first push break was WOW
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
May 16 2008 21:44 GMT
#65
Why yes, that was an excellent game.

I was wondering how the game could be so long and I'm glad it was that long. I thought artosis had it in the beginning and Nony just wiped the floor with him, killing all his troops. Then I thought Nony had it after he pushed terran out of top starting point and Artosis came back, really exciting.
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Vaul
Profile Joined January 2008
New Zealand112 Posts
May 17 2008 05:33 GMT
#66
On May 14 2008 16:49 omnigol wrote:
Wow this game blew my mind. Somebody should commentate this one.

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The emp on the archons was perfect. Man that game was so so close.


I worry some of the more excitable commentators might die commentating this one though.


I'm gonna give it a shot.
www.youtube.com/user/vaulsc
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Canada2938 Posts
May 18 2008 02:40 GMT
#67
Vaul, make sure you have a few glasses of water by your side O_O
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Griimm
Profile Joined May 2008
United States15 Posts
May 20 2008 04:18 GMT
#68
Soooooooooo .... what happens if that ever happened in a real game?
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-20 07:59:03
May 20 2008 07:57 GMT
#69
Wow.
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I would have given up long before the end had I been artosis. Amazing "comeback" to get a draw! Too bad there was no vulture/probe micro in the end though (not that I'm complaining!).
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
Vaul
Profile Joined January 2008
New Zealand112 Posts
May 20 2008 10:16 GMT
#70
wow, an hour long commentary is not easy... still, I did it. It's a 7 part epic over at www.youtube.com/user/vaulsc
www.youtube.com/user/vaulsc
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
May 21 2008 13:20 GMT
#71
wow soo cool :D

Studying Chinese~
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
May 23 2008 22:08 GMT
#72
Artosis wins because he had 666 kills.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
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