Cuty[gm] Dream.t)PltO - Page 2

On August 21 2006 07:34 decafchicken wrote:
How do you watchi this rep?

On August 21 2006 03:54 FrozenArbiter wrote:
@Outqast and Sir Alex:

The thing about rush hour is that the the empty main and its natural is worth more than 2 of the gas/mineral expansions, and as long as you control the main, you definitely control one of the 2 mineral only expansions (zerg can't do anything to stop you from storming drones there).

If you are lucky and start at 7 and empty main is at 11 you control both mineral onlies.

So basically, as long as you can secure the empty main without too much cost, you have won.
This is because there's only 2500 gas in the secondary gas expansions, meaning if you've mined out one, zerg has already mined out his, then him taking the last one doesn't matter at all, it's not worth half of what that main is worth.

As for mutalisks, impossible with only 2500 gas expos, especially since I had like 10+++ high templars and tons of cannons for the most part. He could have made some queens tho.

On August 21 2006 13:17 outqast wrote:
So In this situation, you contended won because you had advantageous resource position and you were able to sustain your army better than he could.

As an observer, it looked like you were able to defend an awful lot of units with your fortification at your natural. Upon watching the replay again, while you were defending your top expansion he constantly had 20~30 more population than you until the very end. Not to mention he mined 30,000 more resources than you. He did throw a lot of units at you, but it seems like he did little or no damage to you for the last 20 minutes. Your base just looked inpenetrable to me and that is why you won.

So, to summarize:
1) Controlling free main on rush hour = most important part of the map, so therefore whoever tries to take it can expect a hard fight for it.
2) I win because he failed to wrest control of 11 o clock from me.

If he hadn't attacked, yes, I would have been able to replace my units way more effeciently than him (or just made carriers, he doesn't have any gas to counter, he dies).

Also, in this game I never did control both the main and natural for any substantial amount of time, so his drops almost gave him the game.

On August 21 2006 16:06 outqast wrote:


So basically, his mistake was not fortifying that expansion early enough and letting you gain a foot hold. If he had taken that base earlier and turtled it, it would have prevented you from getting to that point. Hmmmm... not really the answer to my question, but I appreciate your analysis on the game.

The reason why I keep bringing up the defense issue is as a zerg player I find a constant problem of mine is that I will get to the point of a game where I will be in an advantageous position economically and I own a large portion of the map. But for any zvt and zvp, the opponent will just turtle and I find myself having my population maxed and my units just going to waste on his defenses. Admittedly, I do not have as good control over the units as most good players, however even observers notice how I loose a footholding on games I should have won.

Well anyways, thanks for your advice on the game it was very constructive and helpful. I hope I did not waste too much of your time.