Power Rank 11/10/2008 - Page 21

On November 24 2008 18:17 OneOther wrote:
How long will you keep saying Jaedong will beat player A and B and C next time they play?

On November 24 2008 18:20 Darth Peter wrote:

For pretty long

On November 24 2008 18:17 OneOther wrote:
Darth Peter:
Now, I don't want to put Kal very high- he lost badly verses Jangbi. However, he needs to be above Jaedong. OF COURSE I am not basing it off one game, where did you get the idea that I was? And please stop bringing ancient games into discussion.

Let's take a look at them:
Kal -
MSL Semifinalist (I am not taking this too much into consideration)
Crucial ace match victory vs Stork
Crucial ace match victory vs Jaedong

Jaedong -
Blows his advantage and loses vs FBH, Ace match loss. (Bad play)
Blows a HUGE advantage and loses vs Kal on a ZERG FAVORED map, Ace match loss. (Terrible play)

Why in the world should Jaedong be above Kal?
I tell you again that your guess of Jaedong owning Kal next time they play is not taken into account. How long will you keep saying Jaedong will beat player A and B and C next time they play?

On November 24 2008 18:18 Darth Peter wrote:
My rank at this point of time would be.
1. Stork-he dominaed in the last month,unfortunately you can't drop him because he played few games.
2. Bisu-needs no explanation
3. Free-Free lost to Bisu,but nearly everybody loses to Bisu these days,and he is still much more impressive than Jangbi.
4. Jaedong- I don't care if Jangbi played MSL finals,he lost to the first really good player he met there,and there is no proof that he would have beaten Free,the guy who eliminated JD. JD is solid in the Gom,like Jangbi,and I don't remember Jangbi playing too much in the PL,so you can't tell that his stats would be better had he been playing the same number of matches and against the same caliber of opponents.
5. Jangbi-I already said my opinion about him.
6. Flash
7. Best-they both hadn't done anything this month,and won't really have the chance to do in the rest of the month,so I don't think that they can be ranked higher,but they can't be ranked lower either.
8. Pusan- Pusan is really,really fucking good these days.
9. Firebathero- He is very solid in the PL and has one of the best T v Z and T v T and his T v P is improving.
10. Savior- The Maestro deserves a ranking. He had some of the most entertaining games this month,losing only to Free in a very close series.

Maybe Savior is exchangeable with Calm,but idk,I think the Maestro is more impressive.

On November 24 2008 21:36 Geo.Rion wrote:


Be reasonable, if you mention that Andromeda is a Zerg favorite map (stats claim this, i disagree a bit), than mention must be made on Harmony being a Terran heaven. You disagree with me seeing that the TvZ stat is even there? Read Artosis' writeup about the map, it's clearly T favoring, the fact that JD 9pooled Flash's 14CC, Sunny got raped twice by superior players, and Luxury owned a pushover doesnt makes that map a balanced one. You can't use the ace loss against FBH as an argument JD is playing bad. FBH, one of the best, if not the best TvZ player, playing on an easy map for Terran, preparing an innovative, clever build, the match is back and for, 30 minutes long, the terran wins. OK, he fucked up against Kal, but he payed really well at the start, then due to a fatal mistakes, AND Kal's godly micro on a major battle the game turned around.
placed.

On November 25 2008 00:10 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Jaedong would have won vs kal if he didnt make that 1 mistake though (1000 lurkers borrowed in middle of goon+temp group)
other than that he played well!
anyway i stick to what i said earlier, jaedong is like a god earlygame nowadays. Does things that makes u think he will rape EASY and then somehow loses some games anyway, its really annoying

On November 25 2008 00:20 OneOther wrote:

okay you can say that for almost every game.
Jaedong has a HUGE lead and he loses the ace match by doing stupid stuff. hence some penalty.

On November 25 2008 00:03 OneOther wrote:

You guys are missing my point. Watch the games, I am saying JD should be lower because he SUCKED. In both games vs FBH and KAL he had an advantage which he managed to blow by doing STUPID things, hence the under-performing. I am no longer talking about statistics alone. Stop telling me FBH and Kal are excellent verses Zerg, because I KNOW. It's the manner that Jaedong played, and he played terribly. In crucial ace matches.

Kal did the exact opposite.

Anyways, I really gotta stop posting for a bit because it's taking too much time.

On November 25 2008 00:40 Geo.Rion wrote:


First of all i didn't say anything about he being higher. Against Kal he fucked up, maybe he got overconfident, or who knows. Against FBH he didn't gain a huge lead, no way, he survived the cheese with bearable losses, he lost a few lings drones and had to change his bo. About his muta micro, FBH really cornered those mutas in a fashon that i haven't seen in quite a while against someone who has very good mutamicro. He had some wrong descisions. MAN! Everybody has in every game, just when you loose it's easier to focus point out mistakes, and when you face an unfamiliar build it's natural to commit more. He had some very good moves, if you really saw that game you could tell that there were two top notch players fighting, and the one with better preparation took the win in a long game. Don't tell me he's playing crappy, not in those games. he could have won, yet lost? Yeah, that's why he isn't and will not be this time in the top 3.


sry i just noticed u worte 10 minuts ago to us to not reply, sry didn't saw it.