• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:49
CEST 12:49
KST 19:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners5Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Douyu Cup 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
Data needed Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW fans in southern Sweden, look here! 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streaming Impacts Game P…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7448 users

Power Rank 07/06/2007

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 22:40 GMT
#1
Close, but no cigar…

Reach – Despite your somewhat-impressive Starleague run, you’re still only 8-8 since April. As my friends typically say when we chug beer, “MAN UP.”

July – After going 18-8 to start off 2007, you went 0-3 against GoRush. That’s just not going to cut it.

Nal_Ra – I… I’m just so happy right now; I don’t know what to say.

Free – You’re 20-13 in 2007—and your talent is undeniable—but you’ve got to clean up your PvT (don’t quote me your Proleague record; it’s still sloppy) and make a Starleague before I seriously consider you for the Power Rank.

Midas – Your Proleague play has picked up as of late, but you’re still not Power Rank material.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
July 05 2007 22:42 GMT
#2
Finally!

Time to read now :
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
July 05 2007 22:43 GMT
#3
Yeah... yay! reading :-)
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 22:46:41
July 05 2007 22:46 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6776 Posts
July 05 2007 22:47 GMT
#5
woop reading time
Graphics
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 22:49 GMT
#6
On July 06 2007 07:46 Jathin wrote:
You're a fag etter. That is all.

You're still drunk from last night, and it's 10:49 AM.
HappyFeetO_O
Profile Joined June 2007
China350 Posts
July 05 2007 22:51 GMT
#7
Good to see Stork up there
Bird sings why the caged I know
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 23:20:01
July 05 2007 23:00 GMT
#8
Damn! I was writing comment about luck and stuff for last PR when you posted new >.<

My odds there were Bisu, Iris, FBH, sAviOr, Stork and I agree with your write-up about luck, but I don't think Stork's PvZ allows him such a high place ;P
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 05 2007 23:04 GMT
#9
Well it's easy when you wait for all the decisive matchups.

I'd notch FBH below Savior, GGPlay over Flash, and maybe replace Sea with July (but I like the fat man).

Also: agreed about Nal_rA. I was so happy to see him get knocked out and then not get back in on the wildcard. I hate, haaaatteee, hate watching him. ~_~
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
July 05 2007 23:06 GMT
#10
Nice read as always, thank you.
Schiller
Profile Joined March 2006
Germany308 Posts
July 05 2007 23:11 GMT
#11
you PR is always the same

very nice
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 23:14:26
July 05 2007 23:11 GMT
#12
+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, Savior really did cast a massive shadow over progaming. Bisu, Iris and FBH are most known for beating him (and Stork wins Savior by proxy by beating FBH), and so they get the top slots. It's almost like Savior is the bar to which all other gamers are compared. If you can play straight up and beat him or someone that has beaten him, you get notice and respect. If you haven't beaten him or someone that can (or cheese to win), it doesn't matter how great your results are, you get a review like Flash's "I know he has some skill, but Flash isn't making it easy for me to figure out just how much."
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-06 01:44:15
July 05 2007 23:16 GMT
#13
Ok so here's what I think:

I pretty much agree on the enitre PR this month o.O amazing I know :-)
That would be my Top-6 for sure, in that exact same order. Flash for 7th is a tough call as you wrote as well, I just can't find myself thinking of him as a strong player, well not 'solid' anyway, he's too much.. Flash :-) I'd rank him below GGPlay but it really doesn't matter.

imo you can definitely add some words in 'close but no cigar' (lets call its CBNC) or even just some kind of side notes, about players that were in PR not long ago, but now dissapeared and aren't even in CBNC, like Light[Alive], iloveOov, Much[gm], or whoever was there and is now nowhere. And I dislike your disliking of Nal_Ra, every month the same... its not funny.

In my mind, Free > Sea, he's just more impressive, I think he's going to shock everyone next season. Sea had all sorts of opportunities, vs XellOs at Wildcard, and that 0-2 vs GoRush.. But Sea for 10th is fine. Others that will destroy everyone next season and should have been perhaphs mentioned in CBNC include: Jaedong (Proleague is one thing, but his Star Challenge group is another plus), Luxury, UpMagiC I guess, and Chalrenge if he can find some focus... I'd consider fOrGG and Anytime, I think Lecaf players will show some sparks next individual season. I'm happy you mentioned Midas, there's some possitive changes in his play, he may really comeback stronger next season :-) Oov should have been mentioned for sure.. but you'd only say mean things so forget about it -_- I'd mention XellOs just for showing some nice games, even in the wildcard group (and then some terrible ones, but I forgive him) so I'd say "XellOs thanks for showing up and fading out again"

So good job, I'd prefer it on the 1st, even before GoRush vs July, absolutely before Stork-FBH-Iris, it would make things completely heat up in the PR discussion :-) You went for the ultra safe way by waiting so long, but it won't be that entertaining in here until finals, and even then... Lets just say I'd much prefer massive changes after the entire semi-finals rounds, into next month. Well anyway, nice PR. I'm only writing what I think each PR to bring about some ideas, some criticism, after all this is sort of a 1-man opinion that kind of ?suppose to? represent the opinion of many others in here, or it wouldn't be linked in the main page. So that being said, you shouldn't take things to heart, as I'm sure you don't, but just making sure :-)

"Even with his loss to Stork in one of the uglier Bo5s I’ve ever seen"
100% agree, that Bo5 was a disgrace to progaming, Bisu should have been given the MSL title right then and there by default, for them having played such a terrible semifinals. Koreans that actually paid to watch the games should get a refund.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 05 2007 23:18 GMT
#14
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
July 05 2007 23:32 GMT
#15
On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
July 05 2007 23:33 GMT
#16
FUCK ETTER
Moderator<:3-/-<
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
July 05 2007 23:45 GMT
#17
On July 06 2007 08:32 Mouriner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition

Qualifying for both starleagues isn't necessarly that overpowering when you compare a 1 Starleague player with a 2 Starleague player. Infact playing on both Starleagues seems to be the downfall of many great players, I have no special sympathy for players like Hwasin and sAviOr, that have to get ready for several different matchups.
And its also luck based, some players just fall in dual style groups with some tough luck, there's nothing to do about it, example if you're a Zerg and you get Monty Hall on a dual style group, your chances are already shit, not all progamers can qualify for both Starleagues every time. I think we're just used to seeing specific names in both leagues, but its due to seeds and Star Challenge, or Survivor League, well some of them haven't seen offline qualifiers in ages. Lets see how sAviOr doesn in ODT next season :-)
Anyway point is, I wouldn't say Stork has such a huge advantage over Iris mainly because of 2 Starleague, but I think its more due to his *amazing Proleague performances.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 05 2007 23:50 GMT
#18
but there's also the fact that Stork got into BOTH semi-finals, which is hard to do.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
July 06 2007 00:01 GMT
#19
Yeah. but it kind of annoys me that both those semis are pretty bad, I mean, not fun to watch, almost lame :/ The one thing is common is Stork. Compare to last season, sAviOr in both semis, both were a spectacle of epic proportions... Last two days of semis Bo5, just weren't worthy. Nothing to look back on and smile, actually nothing to look back on at all.
But of course you're right, making it to both semi-finlas is an amazing achievement :-) I'd rank Stork above Iris anyway, for this month.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33627 Posts
July 06 2007 00:03 GMT
#20
it's interesting to have a period where no one is ultra dominant anymore, though I think the 'who can beat BestPlayerOftheTime' angle makes for better entertainment in progaming overall.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3177
Jaedong 449
Hyuk 371
Rush 193
EffOrt 150
Light 147
BeSt 143
Soma 135
Pusan 108
Dewaltoss 98
[ Show more ]
Leta 98
ggaemo 57
Mind 54
ToSsGirL 52
Liquid`Ret 37
Backho 35
PianO 30
[sc1f]eonzerg 21
soO 20
Sacsri 20
sorry 15
Dota 2
XcaliburYe174
Counter-Strike
fl0m4397
olofmeister1727
shoxiejesuss743
kennyS537
Other Games
Lowko561
Sick230
Fuzer 82
SortOf30
MindelVK13
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV186
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota259
League of Legends
• Jankos2119
• Nemesis1552
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 11m
Maestros of the Game
3h 11m
Classic vs Maru
Serral vs herO
TBD vs Clem
TBD vs Rogue
Replay Cast
13h 11m
CranKy Ducklings
23h 11m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 4h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 8h
eOnzErG vs Mihu
Messiah vs XuanXuan
Jaystar vs TerrOr
Dewalt vs Bonyth
eOnzErG vs XuanXuan
Mihu vs TerrOr
Messiah vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
Acropolis #4 - GSB
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.