• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:39
CET 09:39
KST 17:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)35
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1604 users

Power Rank 07/06/2007

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 22:40 GMT
#1
Close, but no cigar…

Reach – Despite your somewhat-impressive Starleague run, you’re still only 8-8 since April. As my friends typically say when we chug beer, “MAN UP.”

July – After going 18-8 to start off 2007, you went 0-3 against GoRush. That’s just not going to cut it.

Nal_Ra – I… I’m just so happy right now; I don’t know what to say.

Free – You’re 20-13 in 2007—and your talent is undeniable—but you’ve got to clean up your PvT (don’t quote me your Proleague record; it’s still sloppy) and make a Starleague before I seriously consider you for the Power Rank.

Midas – Your Proleague play has picked up as of late, but you’re still not Power Rank material.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
July 05 2007 22:42 GMT
#2
Finally!

Time to read now :
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
July 05 2007 22:43 GMT
#3
Yeah... yay! reading :-)
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 22:46:41
July 05 2007 22:46 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
July 05 2007 22:47 GMT
#5
woop reading time
Graphics
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 22:49 GMT
#6
On July 06 2007 07:46 Jathin wrote:
You're a fag etter. That is all.

You're still drunk from last night, and it's 10:49 AM.
HappyFeetO_O
Profile Joined June 2007
China350 Posts
July 05 2007 22:51 GMT
#7
Good to see Stork up there
Bird sings why the caged I know
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 23:20:01
July 05 2007 23:00 GMT
#8
Damn! I was writing comment about luck and stuff for last PR when you posted new >.<

My odds there were Bisu, Iris, FBH, sAviOr, Stork and I agree with your write-up about luck, but I don't think Stork's PvZ allows him such a high place ;P
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 05 2007 23:04 GMT
#9
Well it's easy when you wait for all the decisive matchups.

I'd notch FBH below Savior, GGPlay over Flash, and maybe replace Sea with July (but I like the fat man).

Also: agreed about Nal_rA. I was so happy to see him get knocked out and then not get back in on the wildcard. I hate, haaaatteee, hate watching him. ~_~
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
July 05 2007 23:06 GMT
#10
Nice read as always, thank you.
Schiller
Profile Joined March 2006
Germany308 Posts
July 05 2007 23:11 GMT
#11
you PR is always the same

very nice
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 23:14:26
July 05 2007 23:11 GMT
#12
+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, Savior really did cast a massive shadow over progaming. Bisu, Iris and FBH are most known for beating him (and Stork wins Savior by proxy by beating FBH), and so they get the top slots. It's almost like Savior is the bar to which all other gamers are compared. If you can play straight up and beat him or someone that has beaten him, you get notice and respect. If you haven't beaten him or someone that can (or cheese to win), it doesn't matter how great your results are, you get a review like Flash's "I know he has some skill, but Flash isn't making it easy for me to figure out just how much."
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-06 01:44:15
July 05 2007 23:16 GMT
#13
Ok so here's what I think:

I pretty much agree on the enitre PR this month o.O amazing I know :-)
That would be my Top-6 for sure, in that exact same order. Flash for 7th is a tough call as you wrote as well, I just can't find myself thinking of him as a strong player, well not 'solid' anyway, he's too much.. Flash :-) I'd rank him below GGPlay but it really doesn't matter.

imo you can definitely add some words in 'close but no cigar' (lets call its CBNC) or even just some kind of side notes, about players that were in PR not long ago, but now dissapeared and aren't even in CBNC, like Light[Alive], iloveOov, Much[gm], or whoever was there and is now nowhere. And I dislike your disliking of Nal_Ra, every month the same... its not funny.

In my mind, Free > Sea, he's just more impressive, I think he's going to shock everyone next season. Sea had all sorts of opportunities, vs XellOs at Wildcard, and that 0-2 vs GoRush.. But Sea for 10th is fine. Others that will destroy everyone next season and should have been perhaphs mentioned in CBNC include: Jaedong (Proleague is one thing, but his Star Challenge group is another plus), Luxury, UpMagiC I guess, and Chalrenge if he can find some focus... I'd consider fOrGG and Anytime, I think Lecaf players will show some sparks next individual season. I'm happy you mentioned Midas, there's some possitive changes in his play, he may really comeback stronger next season :-) Oov should have been mentioned for sure.. but you'd only say mean things so forget about it -_- I'd mention XellOs just for showing some nice games, even in the wildcard group (and then some terrible ones, but I forgive him) so I'd say "XellOs thanks for showing up and fading out again"

So good job, I'd prefer it on the 1st, even before GoRush vs July, absolutely before Stork-FBH-Iris, it would make things completely heat up in the PR discussion :-) You went for the ultra safe way by waiting so long, but it won't be that entertaining in here until finals, and even then... Lets just say I'd much prefer massive changes after the entire semi-finals rounds, into next month. Well anyway, nice PR. I'm only writing what I think each PR to bring about some ideas, some criticism, after all this is sort of a 1-man opinion that kind of ?suppose to? represent the opinion of many others in here, or it wouldn't be linked in the main page. So that being said, you shouldn't take things to heart, as I'm sure you don't, but just making sure :-)

"Even with his loss to Stork in one of the uglier Bo5s I’ve ever seen"
100% agree, that Bo5 was a disgrace to progaming, Bisu should have been given the MSL title right then and there by default, for them having played such a terrible semifinals. Koreans that actually paid to watch the games should get a refund.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 05 2007 23:18 GMT
#14
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
July 05 2007 23:32 GMT
#15
On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
July 05 2007 23:33 GMT
#16
FUCK ETTER
Moderator<:3-/-<
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
July 05 2007 23:45 GMT
#17
On July 06 2007 08:32 Mouriner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition

Qualifying for both starleagues isn't necessarly that overpowering when you compare a 1 Starleague player with a 2 Starleague player. Infact playing on both Starleagues seems to be the downfall of many great players, I have no special sympathy for players like Hwasin and sAviOr, that have to get ready for several different matchups.
And its also luck based, some players just fall in dual style groups with some tough luck, there's nothing to do about it, example if you're a Zerg and you get Monty Hall on a dual style group, your chances are already shit, not all progamers can qualify for both Starleagues every time. I think we're just used to seeing specific names in both leagues, but its due to seeds and Star Challenge, or Survivor League, well some of them haven't seen offline qualifiers in ages. Lets see how sAviOr doesn in ODT next season :-)
Anyway point is, I wouldn't say Stork has such a huge advantage over Iris mainly because of 2 Starleague, but I think its more due to his *amazing Proleague performances.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 05 2007 23:50 GMT
#18
but there's also the fact that Stork got into BOTH semi-finals, which is hard to do.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
July 06 2007 00:01 GMT
#19
Yeah. but it kind of annoys me that both those semis are pretty bad, I mean, not fun to watch, almost lame :/ The one thing is common is Stork. Compare to last season, sAviOr in both semis, both were a spectacle of epic proportions... Last two days of semis Bo5, just weren't worthy. Nothing to look back on and smile, actually nothing to look back on at all.
But of course you're right, making it to both semi-finlas is an amazing achievement :-) I'd rank Stork above Iris anyway, for this month.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33528 Posts
July 06 2007 00:03 GMT
#20
it's interesting to have a period where no one is ultra dominant anymore, though I think the 'who can beat BestPlayerOftheTime' angle makes for better entertainment in progaming overall.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 147
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 1040
Mong 304
Hm[arnc] 91
Shuttle 55
NotJumperer 27
910 17
Noble 16
GoRush 12
Free 12
Dota 2
XaKoH 426
febbydoto42
League of Legends
JimRising 701
C9.Mang0387
Counter-Strike
allub203
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor123
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi533
WinterStarcraft510
ceh9395
Mew2King117
KnowMe11
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick861
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1398
• Jankos841
• Stunt416
Other Games
• Shiphtur312
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
21m
RongYI Cup
2h 21m
herO vs Solar
TriGGeR vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
5h 21m
The PondCast
1d
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-26
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.