• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:00
CET 15:00
KST 23:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)19Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 will not be in the Esports World Cup Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1497 users

Power Rank 07/06/2007

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 22:40 GMT
#1
Close, but no cigar…

Reach – Despite your somewhat-impressive Starleague run, you’re still only 8-8 since April. As my friends typically say when we chug beer, “MAN UP.”

July – After going 18-8 to start off 2007, you went 0-3 against GoRush. That’s just not going to cut it.

Nal_Ra – I… I’m just so happy right now; I don’t know what to say.

Free – You’re 20-13 in 2007—and your talent is undeniable—but you’ve got to clean up your PvT (don’t quote me your Proleague record; it’s still sloppy) and make a Starleague before I seriously consider you for the Power Rank.

Midas – Your Proleague play has picked up as of late, but you’re still not Power Rank material.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
July 05 2007 22:42 GMT
#2
Finally!

Time to read now :
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
July 05 2007 22:43 GMT
#3
Yeah... yay! reading :-)
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 22:46:41
July 05 2007 22:46 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
July 05 2007 22:47 GMT
#5
woop reading time
Graphics
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 22:49 GMT
#6
On July 06 2007 07:46 Jathin wrote:
You're a fag etter. That is all.

You're still drunk from last night, and it's 10:49 AM.
HappyFeetO_O
Profile Joined June 2007
China350 Posts
July 05 2007 22:51 GMT
#7
Good to see Stork up there
Bird sings why the caged I know
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 23:20:01
July 05 2007 23:00 GMT
#8
Damn! I was writing comment about luck and stuff for last PR when you posted new >.<

My odds there were Bisu, Iris, FBH, sAviOr, Stork and I agree with your write-up about luck, but I don't think Stork's PvZ allows him such a high place ;P
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 05 2007 23:04 GMT
#9
Well it's easy when you wait for all the decisive matchups.

I'd notch FBH below Savior, GGPlay over Flash, and maybe replace Sea with July (but I like the fat man).

Also: agreed about Nal_rA. I was so happy to see him get knocked out and then not get back in on the wildcard. I hate, haaaatteee, hate watching him. ~_~
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
July 05 2007 23:06 GMT
#10
Nice read as always, thank you.
Schiller
Profile Joined March 2006
Germany308 Posts
July 05 2007 23:11 GMT
#11
you PR is always the same

very nice
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 23:14:26
July 05 2007 23:11 GMT
#12
+ Show Spoiler +
Wow, Savior really did cast a massive shadow over progaming. Bisu, Iris and FBH are most known for beating him (and Stork wins Savior by proxy by beating FBH), and so they get the top slots. It's almost like Savior is the bar to which all other gamers are compared. If you can play straight up and beat him or someone that has beaten him, you get notice and respect. If you haven't beaten him or someone that can (or cheese to win), it doesn't matter how great your results are, you get a review like Flash's "I know he has some skill, but Flash isn't making it easy for me to figure out just how much."
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-06 01:44:15
July 05 2007 23:16 GMT
#13
Ok so here's what I think:

I pretty much agree on the enitre PR this month o.O amazing I know :-)
That would be my Top-6 for sure, in that exact same order. Flash for 7th is a tough call as you wrote as well, I just can't find myself thinking of him as a strong player, well not 'solid' anyway, he's too much.. Flash :-) I'd rank him below GGPlay but it really doesn't matter.

imo you can definitely add some words in 'close but no cigar' (lets call its CBNC) or even just some kind of side notes, about players that were in PR not long ago, but now dissapeared and aren't even in CBNC, like Light[Alive], iloveOov, Much[gm], or whoever was there and is now nowhere. And I dislike your disliking of Nal_Ra, every month the same... its not funny.

In my mind, Free > Sea, he's just more impressive, I think he's going to shock everyone next season. Sea had all sorts of opportunities, vs XellOs at Wildcard, and that 0-2 vs GoRush.. But Sea for 10th is fine. Others that will destroy everyone next season and should have been perhaphs mentioned in CBNC include: Jaedong (Proleague is one thing, but his Star Challenge group is another plus), Luxury, UpMagiC I guess, and Chalrenge if he can find some focus... I'd consider fOrGG and Anytime, I think Lecaf players will show some sparks next individual season. I'm happy you mentioned Midas, there's some possitive changes in his play, he may really comeback stronger next season :-) Oov should have been mentioned for sure.. but you'd only say mean things so forget about it -_- I'd mention XellOs just for showing some nice games, even in the wildcard group (and then some terrible ones, but I forgive him) so I'd say "XellOs thanks for showing up and fading out again"

So good job, I'd prefer it on the 1st, even before GoRush vs July, absolutely before Stork-FBH-Iris, it would make things completely heat up in the PR discussion :-) You went for the ultra safe way by waiting so long, but it won't be that entertaining in here until finals, and even then... Lets just say I'd much prefer massive changes after the entire semi-finals rounds, into next month. Well anyway, nice PR. I'm only writing what I think each PR to bring about some ideas, some criticism, after all this is sort of a 1-man opinion that kind of ?suppose to? represent the opinion of many others in here, or it wouldn't be linked in the main page. So that being said, you shouldn't take things to heart, as I'm sure you don't, but just making sure :-)

"Even with his loss to Stork in one of the uglier Bo5s I’ve ever seen"
100% agree, that Bo5 was a disgrace to progaming, Bisu should have been given the MSL title right then and there by default, for them having played such a terrible semifinals. Koreans that actually paid to watch the games should get a refund.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 05 2007 23:18 GMT
#14
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
July 05 2007 23:32 GMT
#15
On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
July 05 2007 23:33 GMT
#16
FUCK ETTER
Moderator<:3-/-<
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
July 05 2007 23:45 GMT
#17
On July 06 2007 08:32 Mouriner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition

Qualifying for both starleagues isn't necessarly that overpowering when you compare a 1 Starleague player with a 2 Starleague player. Infact playing on both Starleagues seems to be the downfall of many great players, I have no special sympathy for players like Hwasin and sAviOr, that have to get ready for several different matchups.
And its also luck based, some players just fall in dual style groups with some tough luck, there's nothing to do about it, example if you're a Zerg and you get Monty Hall on a dual style group, your chances are already shit, not all progamers can qualify for both Starleagues every time. I think we're just used to seeing specific names in both leagues, but its due to seeds and Star Challenge, or Survivor League, well some of them haven't seen offline qualifiers in ages. Lets see how sAviOr doesn in ODT next season :-)
Anyway point is, I wouldn't say Stork has such a huge advantage over Iris mainly because of 2 Starleague, but I think its more due to his *amazing Proleague performances.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 05 2007 23:50 GMT
#18
but there's also the fact that Stork got into BOTH semi-finals, which is hard to do.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
July 06 2007 00:01 GMT
#19
Yeah. but it kind of annoys me that both those semis are pretty bad, I mean, not fun to watch, almost lame :/ The one thing is common is Stork. Compare to last season, sAviOr in both semis, both were a spectacle of epic proportions... Last two days of semis Bo5, just weren't worthy. Nothing to look back on and smile, actually nothing to look back on at all.
But of course you're right, making it to both semi-finlas is an amazing achievement :-) I'd rank Stork above Iris anyway, for this month.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33523 Posts
July 06 2007 00:03 GMT
#20
it's interesting to have a period where no one is ultra dominant anymore, though I think the 'who can beat BestPlayerOftheTime' angle makes for better entertainment in progaming overall.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
11:00
Season 13 World Championship
Solar vs ClemLIVE!
Classic vs herO
WardiTV1308
IndyStarCraft 214
LiquipediaDiscussion
RongYI Cup
11:00
Group A
ByuN vs TriGGeR
herO vs Rogue
RotterdaM677
Harstem435
Rex141
BRAT_OK 140
3DClanTV 68
CosmosSc2 54
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 677
Harstem 435
IndyStarCraft 214
Rex 141
BRAT_OK 140
CosmosSc2 54
ProTech33
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3673
Rain 3344
Horang2 1145
Stork 855
GuemChi 767
firebathero 588
Snow 446
ggaemo 399
BeSt 323
Hyuk 252
[ Show more ]
Mini 233
Last 218
Soulkey 168
Mong 151
hero 145
Barracks 131
Hyun 116
Zeus 93
Backho 93
ajuk12(nOOB) 66
Movie 54
[sc1f]eonzerg 53
Mind 50
Sharp 50
Shuttle 45
Shinee 43
soO 42
Killer 37
JYJ 34
ToSsGirL 26
zelot 23
910 18
Yoon 17
Free 15
Noble 13
HiyA 13
Icarus 13
Sacsri 12
GoRush 12
Terrorterran 10
Dota 2
Gorgc3692
qojqva2718
Dendi582
Counter-Strike
olofmeister3107
byalli1861
shoxiejesuss1495
edward204
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1385
B2W.Neo1360
crisheroes341
Hui .147
XaKoH 127
Mew2King94
QueenE73
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc215
• iHatsuTV 3
• Kozan
• Laughngamez YouTube
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3253
• WagamamaTV232
League of Legends
• Jankos2457
• TFBlade892
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
21h 1m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
1d 3h
Serral vs TBD
RongYI Cup
1d 21h
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
1d 23h
BSL 21
2 days
RongYI Cup
2 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL 21
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.