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Power Rank 07/06/2007

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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 22:40 GMT
#1
Close, but no cigar…

Reach – Despite your somewhat-impressive Starleague run, you’re still only 8-8 since April. As my friends typically say when we chug beer, “MAN UP.”

July – After going 18-8 to start off 2007, you went 0-3 against GoRush. That’s just not going to cut it.

Nal_Ra – I… I’m just so happy right now; I don’t know what to say.

Free – You’re 20-13 in 2007—and your talent is undeniable—but you’ve got to clean up your PvT (don’t quote me your Proleague record; it’s still sloppy) and make a Starleague before I seriously consider you for the Power Rank.

Midas – Your Proleague play has picked up as of late, but you’re still not Power Rank material.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
July 05 2007 22:42 GMT
#2
Finally!

Time to read now :
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
July 05 2007 22:43 GMT
#3
Yeah... yay! reading :-)
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 22:46:41
July 05 2007 22:46 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
July 05 2007 22:47 GMT
#5
woop reading time
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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
July 05 2007 22:49 GMT
#6
On July 06 2007 07:46 Jathin wrote:
You're a fag etter. That is all.

You're still drunk from last night, and it's 10:49 AM.
HappyFeetO_O
Profile Joined June 2007
China350 Posts
July 05 2007 22:51 GMT
#7
Good to see Stork up there
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InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 23:20:01
July 05 2007 23:00 GMT
#8
Damn! I was writing comment about luck and stuff for last PR when you posted new >.<

My odds there were Bisu, Iris, FBH, sAviOr, Stork and I agree with your write-up about luck, but I don't think Stork's PvZ allows him such a high place ;P
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 05 2007 23:04 GMT
#9
Well it's easy when you wait for all the decisive matchups.

I'd notch FBH below Savior, GGPlay over Flash, and maybe replace Sea with July (but I like the fat man).

Also: agreed about Nal_rA. I was so happy to see him get knocked out and then not get back in on the wildcard. I hate, haaaatteee, hate watching him. ~_~
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
July 05 2007 23:06 GMT
#10
Nice read as always, thank you.
Schiller
Profile Joined March 2006
Germany308 Posts
July 05 2007 23:11 GMT
#11
you PR is always the same

very nice
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-05 23:14:26
July 05 2007 23:11 GMT
#12
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Wow, Savior really did cast a massive shadow over progaming. Bisu, Iris and FBH are most known for beating him (and Stork wins Savior by proxy by beating FBH), and so they get the top slots. It's almost like Savior is the bar to which all other gamers are compared. If you can play straight up and beat him or someone that has beaten him, you get notice and respect. If you haven't beaten him or someone that can (or cheese to win), it doesn't matter how great your results are, you get a review like Flash's "I know he has some skill, but Flash isn't making it easy for me to figure out just how much."
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-06 01:44:15
July 05 2007 23:16 GMT
#13
Ok so here's what I think:

I pretty much agree on the enitre PR this month o.O amazing I know :-)
That would be my Top-6 for sure, in that exact same order. Flash for 7th is a tough call as you wrote as well, I just can't find myself thinking of him as a strong player, well not 'solid' anyway, he's too much.. Flash :-) I'd rank him below GGPlay but it really doesn't matter.

imo you can definitely add some words in 'close but no cigar' (lets call its CBNC) or even just some kind of side notes, about players that were in PR not long ago, but now dissapeared and aren't even in CBNC, like Light[Alive], iloveOov, Much[gm], or whoever was there and is now nowhere. And I dislike your disliking of Nal_Ra, every month the same... its not funny.

In my mind, Free > Sea, he's just more impressive, I think he's going to shock everyone next season. Sea had all sorts of opportunities, vs XellOs at Wildcard, and that 0-2 vs GoRush.. But Sea for 10th is fine. Others that will destroy everyone next season and should have been perhaphs mentioned in CBNC include: Jaedong (Proleague is one thing, but his Star Challenge group is another plus), Luxury, UpMagiC I guess, and Chalrenge if he can find some focus... I'd consider fOrGG and Anytime, I think Lecaf players will show some sparks next individual season. I'm happy you mentioned Midas, there's some possitive changes in his play, he may really comeback stronger next season :-) Oov should have been mentioned for sure.. but you'd only say mean things so forget about it -_- I'd mention XellOs just for showing some nice games, even in the wildcard group (and then some terrible ones, but I forgive him) so I'd say "XellOs thanks for showing up and fading out again"

So good job, I'd prefer it on the 1st, even before GoRush vs July, absolutely before Stork-FBH-Iris, it would make things completely heat up in the PR discussion :-) You went for the ultra safe way by waiting so long, but it won't be that entertaining in here until finals, and even then... Lets just say I'd much prefer massive changes after the entire semi-finals rounds, into next month. Well anyway, nice PR. I'm only writing what I think each PR to bring about some ideas, some criticism, after all this is sort of a 1-man opinion that kind of ?suppose to? represent the opinion of many others in here, or it wouldn't be linked in the main page. So that being said, you shouldn't take things to heart, as I'm sure you don't, but just making sure :-)

"Even with his loss to Stork in one of the uglier Bo5s I’ve ever seen"
100% agree, that Bo5 was a disgrace to progaming, Bisu should have been given the MSL title right then and there by default, for them having played such a terrible semifinals. Koreans that actually paid to watch the games should get a refund.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 05 2007 23:18 GMT
#14
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
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IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all
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Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
July 05 2007 23:32 GMT
#15
On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
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IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
July 05 2007 23:33 GMT
#16
FUCK ETTER
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
July 05 2007 23:45 GMT
#17
On July 06 2007 08:32 Mouriner wrote:
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On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition

Qualifying for both starleagues isn't necessarly that overpowering when you compare a 1 Starleague player with a 2 Starleague player. Infact playing on both Starleagues seems to be the downfall of many great players, I have no special sympathy for players like Hwasin and sAviOr, that have to get ready for several different matchups.
And its also luck based, some players just fall in dual style groups with some tough luck, there's nothing to do about it, example if you're a Zerg and you get Monty Hall on a dual style group, your chances are already shit, not all progamers can qualify for both Starleagues every time. I think we're just used to seeing specific names in both leagues, but its due to seeds and Star Challenge, or Survivor League, well some of them haven't seen offline qualifiers in ages. Lets see how sAviOr doesn in ODT next season :-)
Anyway point is, I wouldn't say Stork has such a huge advantage over Iris mainly because of 2 Starleague, but I think its more due to his *amazing Proleague performances.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 05 2007 23:50 GMT
#18
but there's also the fact that Stork got into BOTH semi-finals, which is hard to do.
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
July 06 2007 00:01 GMT
#19
Yeah. but it kind of annoys me that both those semis are pretty bad, I mean, not fun to watch, almost lame :/ The one thing is common is Stork. Compare to last season, sAviOr in both semis, both were a spectacle of epic proportions... Last two days of semis Bo5, just weren't worthy. Nothing to look back on and smile, actually nothing to look back on at all.
But of course you're right, making it to both semi-finlas is an amazing achievement :-) I'd rank Stork above Iris anyway, for this month.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
July 06 2007 00:03 GMT
#20
it's interesting to have a period where no one is ultra dominant anymore, though I think the 'who can beat BestPlayerOftheTime' angle makes for better entertainment in progaming overall.
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