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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-07 00:51:52
July 07 2007 00:51 GMT
#81
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 07 2007 01:46 GMT
#82
i caught the humour but you forgto to haha misspell eveyr otehr word haha
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Asakura
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Germany471 Posts
July 07 2007 06:00 GMT
#83
btw, short question: Have there been any PvP finals in MSL or OSL before?
Man is disturbed not by things, but by the views he takes of them. (Epictetus)
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-07 06:35:07
July 07 2007 06:25 GMT
#84
Kingdom over Nal_rA - MyCube OSL August - October 2003

Nal_rA over ZeuS - NHN Hangame OSL December 2003 - March 2004

Those are the only two. Strangely they were both in a row.

Except the Daum OSL 2007 thread says that in the Fall 2000 Freechal Open it was (P)Garimto > (ZP)Skelton. Skelton played Zerg and Protoss that series? Did he always play both or something? If so I guess that counts as a partial third.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-07 06:34:29
July 07 2007 06:33 GMT
#85
Actually, Nal_rA won the Stout MSL over NaDa in summer of 2003.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-07 06:43:38
July 07 2007 06:33 GMT
#86
Anytime won the OSL too after Nal_rA so my bad.

For some interesting stats though:

Winner of OSL by race:

10 Terran
6 Protoss
4 Zerg
1 Random (Grrrr...)

MSL:

7 Terran
5 Zerg
2 Protoss

Total:

17 Terran
9 Zerg
8 Protoss
1 Random
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
July 07 2007 08:25 GMT
#87
On July 07 2007 15:33 boghat wrote:
Anytime won the OSL too after Nal_rA so my bad.

For some interesting stats though:

Winner of OSL by race:

10 Terran
6 Protoss
4 Zerg
1 Random (Grrrr...)

MSL:

7 Terran
5 Zerg
2 Protoss

Total:

17 Terran
9 Zerg
8 Protoss
1 Random

And before savior came along those stats were even more twisted. He stands for almost half the OSL/MSL finals wins ever
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 07 2007 10:55 GMT
#88
On July 07 2007 06:14 Mynock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2007 13:43 ManaBlue wrote:
I'm really sad to see Stork faulter against Iris. I have so much confidence in the guy, but I guess it's tough having so much going on at once. He didn't look himself last night, but that may also be due to the fact that Iris was taking him apart. As a long time Iris hater, I'm really impressed with the guy and can't deny that he deserves everything he's gotten in this OSL. It would be a crime for someone to steal the title from him now. There are no players left that pose half the threat of the guys he's beaten.

As for all this bullshit about Stork "not being championship material", you jokers obviously have never seen him PvP. He's the only player in the world that is visably better than everyone else in that matchup. Luck factor or not, he's the best PvP in the world and he'll prove it when he beats Bisu. I'm very confident in this kid. He'll show you all.


Uh-uh, confidence is nice and all, but I hope I will be able to quote you on this one later

But seriously tho: he is best PvP in the world? Even if it was true (it may, I dunno, never really bothered watching to much PvP - this is one thing I agree with Etter on - the special olympics of BW), so EVEN IF it was - who cares? It's not like he's going to become champion by that match-up alone. Not only is PvP almost as much of a roulette as ZvZ - it's also the least common mirror match-up nowadays. Granted, this MSL finals is an exception, but I still doubt Stork will be able to sail far on his PvP boat. Or any other boat actually - I just see him as too boring to ever be able to really clench the top prize. Second or third are places I can see him fit in perfectly tho.

He's like the Protoss TheMarine to me.

Let's see how wrong I'll be.

-Mynock


Even if Stork wins it won't make you "wrong". I'm just saying I'm really confident in his abilities.

And yeah, his PvP record is super super good. So that's basically what I'm referencing as evidence.
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koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
July 07 2007 16:04 GMT
#89
man this month has been full of twists and turns. who would have thunk that iris would be able to knock off SAVIOR and stork? full of dissapointments but yeah, pretty good list overall. LET US WAIT FOR THE FALL OSL.. RISE OF ANYTIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-08 09:04:49
July 07 2007 19:51 GMT
#90
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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-07 23:01:21
July 07 2007 19:53 GMT
#91
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
July 08 2007 02:15 GMT
#92
I hate when my favorite players have to go through ODT :-(
Even sAviOr has to play ODT next time, I hope he won't screw up.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 08 2007 09:08 GMT
#93
On July 08 2007 11:15 VioleTAK wrote:
I hate when my favorite players have to go through ODT :-(
Even sAviOr has to play ODT next time, I hope he won't screw up.


Welcome to my nightmare. Try being a Reach fan up until this season.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
July 08 2007 15:07 GMT
#94
well savior, unlike reach, doesn't need a group of all terrans
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koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
July 09 2007 11:28 GMT
#95
[QUOTE]On July 06 2007 20:58 zer0das wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 06 2007 18:54 QibingZero wrote:

I find Nal_rA's games to be ugly to watch in general. He tends to win them by macroing against opponents who aren't that great (personal opinion). His group matches with all Terrans he went straight carriers in all of the games (and Boxer was just shaking his head after losing the final game). Now granted, I've only been watching progaming SC the past... oh, 3-4 months, so I can't really speak about anything before then.

Also, Stork seems to have one upped him in boringness this in the semis for the time being.[/QUOTE]

... are you serious man? nal_ra is famous for so many things that ISNT related to macro... i am just at a lost of words. even though i am not a fan of nal_ra i respect him for being innovative with his builds and unique style of gaming... calling nal_ra a macro whore just shows how ignorant you are... even his games from the past 3-4 months, did you not see his build vs frozean i think where he went BOTH reaver and DT drops/harass? mind you he wasnt the best of terrans, but it just shows the unique playstyle nal_ra brings to the pro scene....

and hear hear for the hitman idea!!
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 10 2007 06:32 GMT
#96
This is a good power rank to be sure,

but you couldn't fit July on July's power rank?
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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
July 10 2007 07:17 GMT
#97
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 10 2007 09:07 GMT
#98
i like your opinions... very true stuff
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 10 2007 21:17 GMT
#99
On July 09 2007 20:28 koryano321 wrote:... are you serious man? nal_ra is famous for so many things that ISNT related to macro... i am just at a lost of words. even though i am not a fan of nal_ra i respect him for being innovative with his builds and unique style of gaming... calling nal_ra a macro whore just shows how ignorant you are... even his games from the past 3-4 months, did you not see his build vs frozean i think where he went BOTH reaver and DT drops/harass? mind you he wasnt the best of terrans, but it just shows the unique playstyle nal_ra brings to the pro scene....

and hear hear for the hitman idea!!


Just calling it like I see it. The last match I watched of him was on Monty Hall against UpMagic, and he went with what amounts to a fairly standard build and then dts. Monty Hall being the map most Toss try proxing, etc... he proceeded to get outmacroed for playing it a bit too standard on a map that one shouldn't play too standard on (oh, and he psi-stormed most of his troops midmatch XD).

Haven't watched his game against frozean. I still have no idea why people find it so offensive that someone who has only been keeping track of progaming for 3 months might find Nal_rA bland. I'm entirely aware of his past. I haven't watched any of it (yet), granted.
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
July 11 2007 00:35 GMT
#100
On July 07 2007 15:33 boghat wrote:
Anytime won the OSL too after Nal_rA so my bad.

For some interesting stats though:

Winner of OSL by race:

10 Terran
6 Protoss
4 Zerg
1 Random (Grrrr...)

MSL:

7 Terran
5 Zerg
2 Protoss

Total:

17 Terran
9 Zerg
8 Protoss
1 Random


4 zergs for osl? you probably count the korea open, that isn't generally considered a starleague.

Of all msl and osl, only 2 finals so far were pvp, but it's also the case for tvt (1 osl, 1 msl) and zvz (2 msl) so it's a fairly balanced figure for mirrors.

btw, in the freechal osl, Skelton played 1 game as toss against Garimto, because it was played on an island map iirc. he's really a zerg player, just that at the time he had the right to choose race and he probably took the chance to play a pvp instead of a zvp he was pretty sure to lose
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