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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 06 2007 04:43 GMT
#41
I'm really sad to see Stork faulter against Iris. I have so much confidence in the guy, but I guess it's tough having so much going on at once. He didn't look himself last night, but that may also be due to the fact that Iris was taking him apart. As a long time Iris hater, I'm really impressed with the guy and can't deny that he deserves everything he's gotten in this OSL. It would be a crime for someone to steal the title from him now. There are no players left that pose half the threat of the guys he's beaten.

As for all this bullshit about Stork "not being championship material", you jokers obviously have never seen him PvP. He's the only player in the world that is visably better than everyone else in that matchup. Luck factor or not, he's the best PvP in the world and he'll prove it when he beats Bisu. I'm very confident in this kid. He'll show you all.
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
July 06 2007 05:01 GMT
#42
On July 06 2007 08:32 Mouriner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2007 08:18 Plexa wrote:
Interesting given recent results;
im quite surprised to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +
IMO iris should be number 2 given the beating he just gave stork, and GGplay a tad higher.. but that is all


Stork got in 2 semifinals....i think he deserves
Iris not even qualify in a 32 players competition

Stork got into one by luck.
Remember him being eliminated?

Savior pretty much thrashed him, and so did Iris.
I believe that 1-5 should be
Iris
Bisu
Stork
Savior
FBH

Has Bisu played anyone on the top 5?
Who was in his group?

I really don't think he deserves the #1 spot, he pretty much won vs Hwasin with luck, he said so himself, and he got humiliated by Flash twice in a row.
Iris however beat Savior, AND gave Stork a thrashing, which is more impressive imho than Bisu's recent record.
Before last night, Stork would have been an easy #1 choice for me, but Iris has really shown in the past week that he can TvZ (already known since last year OSL Semis) and TvP. Before this I think he really was unproven.

My bets are on Iris to take OSL, and Stork to take MSL.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 06 2007 05:26 GMT
#43
Hwasin was Bisu's "insurance policy" if he couldn't beat Nada. He was in the top 5 in the PR at the time. Aside from that... only other players he's really played of note are GoRush and Light (barring proleague, which I haven't kept up with terribly well).

Anywho, I'd wait a bit on Iris, even if he does seem like a favorite to win OSL at this point. Bisu may have faltered against Flash, but it was a bo3. He barely scratched by Hwasin, but he's still Bisu. If Stork hadn't gotten knocked out by Iris, he probably would have been a shoe in for #1. Even if Iris is playing extremely well right now, he hasn't won OSL yet. Plenty of time to stuff it up.

Hopefully he doesn't, I want to see a good series. -_-
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 06 2007 05:27 GMT
#44
pretty nice power ranking imo
and its indeed fucking amazing that iris beat the best zerg and the 1st or 2nd best toss around .. and if u recall iris's TvT was brilliant and he wouldnt lose to any t except nada..
so well.. just sick ^^

hatred outlives the hateful
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36400 Posts
July 06 2007 05:32 GMT
#45
i'd say iris is a favorite against flash and about even vs ggplay, depends if monty hall is played twice or not
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-06 06:26:06
July 06 2007 05:37 GMT
#46
On July 06 2007 09:16 Mynock wrote:
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On July 06 2007 08:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
FUCK ETTER


My, just look at the time, isn't it getting... what... OLD?

Mynock


Funny and ironic at the same time. You answer to my "old" inside joke, with a even older internet meme.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 06 2007 06:23 GMT
#47
On July 06 2007 14:37 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2007 09:16 Mynock wrote:
On July 06 2007 08:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
FUCK ETTER


My, just look at the time, isn't it getting... what... OLD?

Mynock


Funny and ironic at the same time. You answer to my inside "old" inside joke, with a even older internet meme.


he's right its time for somethign fresh and new


FUCK MYNOCK
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
July 06 2007 06:58 GMT
#48
On July 06 2007 15:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2007 14:37 IntoTheWow wrote:
On July 06 2007 09:16 Mynock wrote:
On July 06 2007 08:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
FUCK ETTER


My, just look at the time, isn't it getting... what... OLD?

Mynock


Funny and ironic at the same time. You answer to my inside "old" inside joke, with a even older internet meme.


he's right its time for somethign fresh and new


FUCK MYNOCK

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boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-06 07:47:04
July 06 2007 07:38 GMT
#49
I have no complaints with this PR, I pretty much agree 100%. The only thing is Flash is 15-3 in his career, is he not?

If you want the stats his first 15 games are outlined here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=55604

And then his next three games are:

6/29 OSL Ro8 Week 2 vs Bisu WIN (Monty Hall)
7/1 Proleague vs Lecaf Oz vs Jaedong WIN (Python)
7/4 Proleague vs STX Soul vs Hwasin LOSS (Sin Peaks of Baekdu)
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
July 06 2007 09:08 GMT
#50
these past few weeks have turned me into a FBH and Hwasin fan... so dominant
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-06 09:14:17
July 06 2007 09:13 GMT
#51
On July 06 2007 16:38 boghat wrote:
I have no complaints with this PR, I pretty much agree 100%. The only thing is Flash is 15-3 in his career, is he not?

Yeah, you're right. My information was about a week and a half old, and I must have missed a game when I was playing catch-up.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
July 06 2007 09:24 GMT
#52
etter is awesome. Also mana blue i agree 100%.
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
July 06 2007 09:54 GMT
#53
For the most part, I agree with the rankings and your reasoning.

What I don't understand, however, is how people who at one moment are talking up Stork as a great toss, turn around and say they dislike Nal_Ra, and they hate watching him. That just blows my mind. It's nearly on the level of someone praising Xellos' style but then saying they can't stand watching Boxer play - ridiculous (and I don't mean that on simply a macro vs micro basis). I personally think Stork's style of play is incredibly boring and makes for bad games, while Ra has consistently brought the scene some of the best moves and games in SC history (as well as -the- best game, but that's beside the point).

Now don't get me wrong, my rambling is mostly an aside - I still agree with you. Ra dropping from the top 10 is understandable with his play this past month, and Stork should remain high on the list even after Iris completely dismantled him. I agree 100% on Stork not being above Bisu as well, and it's clear that if he had to face a zerg in either league, he'd have been waxed. If Savior hadn't lost to FBH and Iris, he'd have likely taken out Stork convincingly in both leagues (that would make twice in the MSL) and been in the finals yet again, and we wouldn't have to deal with this silly hype.

It should be interesting to see how this shakes up next month after seeing how the OSL and MSL end.
Oh, my eSports
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
July 06 2007 09:56 GMT
#54
dude i love the power rank for this month :D
w/e
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 06 2007 10:13 GMT
#55
For those saying Savior should be off the list: Savior still deserves to be on the list; he DID qualify for both Leagues, regardless of how he did.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-06 10:48:43
July 06 2007 10:39 GMT
#56
Haha just rember Savior has been on top of the KeSPA rankings scence the start of January 2007 been number 1 the whole time haha and he is still on top and just remember that a protoss had never taken rank 1 in KeSPA rankings haha

although i will say because KeSPA is over a 3 month period it is alot more leaniant to people who arent performing at their best although i will say over all performance matters most over immeadate performance

july kespa
+ Show Spoiler +

1 | sAviOr CJ Entus 2,068.0 (No Change)
2 | Bisu MBCGame HERO 1,602.9 (1)
3 | NaDa Pantech EX 1,532.5 (1)
4 | Stork Samsung KHAN 1,487.0 (11)
5 | HwaSin STX SouL 1,339.9 (No Change)
6 | IriS CJ Entus 1,330.5 (No Change)
7 | firebathero Samsung KHAN 1,254.0 (5)
8 | Sea[Shield] MBCGame HERO 1,086.5 (1)
9 | Light MBCGame HERO 1,040.7 (5)
10| YellOw[NamE] OnGameNet SPARKYZ 973.0 (4)


haha i see power rank for fbh too high anyways dude fbh games where all horrible unless it was agnist a terran the game eh played agnist stork well ill say that taht was not the best stork plaing for game 3-5 that jsut didnt look like top play fbh is good in tvt ill give him that but i mean he just doesnt seem to be a good enough all around terran also i think his play is boring haha kinda atributes to this
I have ass for brains so,
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 06 2007 11:10 GMT
#57
On July 06 2007 19:39 IzzyCraft wrote:
haha i see power rank for fbh too high anyways dude fbh games where all horrible unless it was agnist a terran the game eh played agnist stork well ill say that taht was not the best stork plaing for game 3-5 that jsut didnt look like top play fbh is good in tvt ill give him that but i mean he just doesnt seem to be a good enough all around terran also i think his play is boring haha kinda atributes to this
By this reasoning stork should be lower because his games against iris were total shit...
nevertheless, i think his spot is fair... having a killer tvt and tvz as well as being the 2nd pillar to support khan in PL (the 1st being stork and 3rd being sigamari) really does deserve 4th in power rank. However, i still would like to see FBH vs iris... although iris is on steriods right now.. i still think it'd be a great series (although i think iris would win, i wouldnt be surprised if FBH did)
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 06 2007 11:28 GMT
#58
On July 06 2007 19:39 IzzyCraft wrote:

haha i see power rank for fbh too high anyways dude fbh games where all horrible unless it was agnist a terran the game eh played agnist stork well ill say that taht was not the best stork plaing for game 3-5 that jsut didnt look like top play fbh is good in tvt ill give him that but i mean he just doesnt seem to be a good enough all around terran also i think his play is boring haha kinda atributes to this


Dude. Breathe.

I can't even read that paragraph.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 06 2007 11:58 GMT
#59
On July 06 2007 18:54 QibingZero wrote:

What I don't understand, however, is how people who at one moment are talking up Stork as a great toss, turn around and say they dislike Nal_Ra, and they hate watching him. That just blows my mind. It's nearly on the level of someone praising Xellos' style but then saying they can't stand watching Boxer play - ridiculous (and I don't mean that on simply a macro vs micro basis). I personally think Stork's style of play is incredibly boring and makes for bad games, while Ra has consistently brought the scene some of the best moves and games in SC history (as well as -the- best game, but that's beside the point).


I find Nal_rA's games to be ugly to watch in general. He tends to win them by macroing against opponents who aren't that great (personal opinion). His group matches with all Terrans he went straight carriers in all of the games (and Boxer was just shaking his head after losing the final game). Now granted, I've only been watching progaming SC the past... oh, 3-4 months, so I can't really speak about anything before then.

Also, Stork seems to have one upped him in boringness this in the semis for the time being.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
July 06 2007 12:18 GMT
#60
haha just remebr sAviOr playes alot more games then you really know that why his ranking for KeSPA has been number 1 the whole time he plays alot more games its why he has over 400 + points then 2nd place bisu true savior hasnt been up to his past power and dominace but common power rank fbh over savior i can accept bisu iris and even stork (scence stork and iris are on fire) but fbh haha just rember if i add 400 points to the 10th place person [fake]yellow he woudl be rank 5 in kespa
I have ass for brains so,
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