• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:33
CEST 03:33
KST 10:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence9Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence ASL20 General Discussion Diplomacy, Cosmonarchy Edition BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Borderlands 3
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1403 users

Power Rank 07/06/2007 - Page 7

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
July 20 2007 23:11 GMT
#121
Here's what I think, after both finals.
First of all, Bisu still #1, until someone pushes him off his throne in some Bo5, or he fails to impress.
But as for #2-4... its tough.
Stork, all together, still feels like the strongest of the three (Stork, Iris, GGPlay), however, 1vs1 I still think Iris would take Stork down any day any time any set! Yes Stork did take out Flash.. the way he did.. but Stork himself said in the interview he's afraid of Iris's 2 fact, and just unsure about stuff. Iris would detroy him in a rematch... But as I said, overall Stork is the stronger player, thats how I see it.
GGPlay... I can't find his rightful place in my mind, I love him so much, he's always been one of my all times favorite players, his tendency for EPIC games, and so much fun to watch. This is the first time I'm starting to feel GGPlay is becoming a solid player to really count on (until now, until the very finals, I still couldn't feel it), and I can't help but think he made it all the way on pure guts and spirit, more than his skill..yes amazing skill indeed, but I need to see more of him to make his place strong in my mind. He needs to show he can continue to impress next season.
And thats why I have to give Stork a place above GGPlay, have to give GGPlay a place above Iris, Have to give Iris a place above Stork :-)
Stork > GGPlay > Iris > Stork... yay! useless I know :-) Bisu stil holds the crown.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 21 2007 02:49 GMT
#122
The problem is that Bisu, Iris, and GGplay can all face Stork with rather good odds. The one thing Stork has is that he made it very far in both Starleagues, getting 3rd and 2nd in OSL and MSL respectively. However, I don't see him as being a 'dominant' player anymore; his PvZ is still weak, his PvP is a bit below Bisu's, and Iris showed that his PvT is not invincible. I'd say Stork should be around 4 or 5 in the next P.R., depending on how he performs in the coming Proleague finals. Outside of Proleague, we won't see Stork play for a while, as he doesn't have any qualifiers to play through, so placing him is a bit hard.
koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
July 22 2007 01:49 GMT
#123
i dunno man, bisu vs stork pvp i would both give them even money. it wasnt like it was totally dominated by one player during their games, it was pretty even but bisu got the better hand. who knows what would happen in a rematch between those two, you never know with games being that close. i still believe his pvt is pretty amazing even though it aint invincible. for the next pr, i would still keep him up in the top 3 though, unless he blunders in the proleague cuz of the results he has shown as of late.
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
July 22 2007 01:51 GMT
#124
i dunno man, bisu vs stork pvp i would both give them even money. it wasnt like it was totally dominated by one player during their games, it was pretty even but bisu got the better hand. who knows what would happen in a rematch between those two, you never know with games being that close. i still believe his pvt is pretty amazing even though it aint invincible. for the next pr, i would still keep him up in the top 3 though, unless he blunders in the proleague cuz of the results he has shown as of late.
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
July 22 2007 01:55 GMT
#125
but yeah, does sea really deserve to be on the next power ranking? cuz in my mind he doesnt, he does okay in proleague, but he just got destroyed by jaedong in the osc. i hope he is off the list next time, the kid who never fulfills the expectations we all have for him.
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 22 2007 03:38 GMT
#126
On July 21 2007 11:49 Jyvblamo wrote:
The problem is that Bisu, Iris, and GGplay can all face Stork with rather good odds. The one thing Stork has is that he made it very far in both Starleagues, getting 3rd and 2nd in OSL and MSL respectively. However, I don't see him as being a 'dominant' player anymore; his PvZ is still weak, his PvP is a bit below Bisu's, and Iris showed that his PvT is not invincible. I'd say Stork should be around 4 or 5 in the next P.R., depending on how he performs in the coming Proleague finals. Outside of Proleague, we won't see Stork play for a while, as he doesn't have any qualifiers to play through, so placing him is a bit hard.

Stork's PvZ isn't weak. He lost to Savior twice.. well it's savior and lost to GGPlay in his group (it was BO loss, his proxy robo had been scouted early). His other PvZ's were quite strong. And I disagree that his PvP is worse than Bisu's. This series was very close and everything can happen in a rematch. Well I think their PvT's are at nearly the same level too. The difference is that while Stork's PvZ is strong, Bisu's one is amazing. And that's the key.
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
July 22 2007 09:11 GMT
#127
--- Nuked ---
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 22 2007 10:44 GMT
#128
jathin you are the worst judge of progamers -.-
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 23 2007 00:00 GMT
#129
infucking deed..
T_T

But Bisu's overall performances in the different match ups is still a tad more exceptional than Storks.. cant deny that..
hatred outlives the hateful
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-23 03:24:46
July 23 2007 03:12 GMT
#130
--- Nuked ---
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines578 Posts
July 23 2007 06:09 GMT
#131
what happened to savior? T-T it's like the evil ghost that controlled him and made him invincible suddenly left.... he smiles now, wears white, and stopped doing his hair
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
July 23 2007 10:50 GMT
#132
Storks pvz reminds me of somewhat like reachs it can be pretty decent at times but never will be at the "top of the line" level in other words his pvz is pretty terrible.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
July 24 2007 14:35 GMT
#133
i see stork under iris truthfully...i dont see why anyone else doesnt agree
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
July 25 2007 01:05 GMT
#134
--- Nuked ---
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
July 25 2007 13:20 GMT
#135
ur not gonna agree with me on this one, but:
i see flash over hwasin also
yea he may not have "proved" himself, and his lategame is lacking, but he is so young and he has so much untapped talent that i think power-wise, he is stronger than hwasin atm
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
July 25 2007 19:24 GMT
#136
--- Nuked ---
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 25 2007 21:05 GMT
#137
The power ranking is about form and power. It's a lot harder to take a Flash that loses games to carriers easily, crumbles to Stork in the 3rd place final and does tend to struggle lategame over Hwasin, who has been pretty consistent all around and stuck it to the top players in all three matchups.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
July 26 2007 15:34 GMT
#138
On July 26 2007 06:05 HaXxorIzed wrote:
The power ranking is about form and power. It's a lot harder to take a Flash that loses games to carriers easily, crumbles to Stork in the 3rd place final and does tend to struggle lategame over Hwasin, who has been pretty consistent all around and stuck it to the top players in all three matchups.


flash losing to stork isnt a big deal dude, stork is known for his pvt...i think hwaSin has a bigger fanbase because hes been in the limelight longer, he has had the chance to play (and lose to) the best of each race, and flash is still a young young player...tough call really
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
July 26 2007 20:08 GMT
#139
--- Nuked ---
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
July 26 2007 20:09 GMT
#140
I knew it would be dead in PR discussion after waiting for semi results :/
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#49
SteadfastSC161
EnkiAlexander 56
davetesta53
Liquipedia
OSC
23:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 203
SteadfastSC 161
RuFF_SC2 136
ROOTCatZ 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 642
Backho 118
NaDa 21
Dota 2
monkeys_forever571
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King28
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr64
Other Games
summit1g8572
shahzam967
Day[9].tv650
C9.Mang0299
Maynarde131
ViBE130
NeuroSwarm106
XaKoH 88
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick703
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• OhrlRock 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1152
• Day9tv650
Upcoming Events
LiuLi Cup
9h 28m
OSC
17h 28m
RSL Revival
1d 8h
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
1d 11h
RSL Revival
2 days
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.