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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 26 2007 21:41 GMT
#181
On May 27 2007 02:50 ilbh wrote:
lol
stork the best protoss... rapped by much and ggplay
he is good but not that much
better than bisu is a joke ffs
"raped by much and ggplay"?
he lost in PL to much yes, but he also beat him in msl :p
and vs ggplay was more of a fucked up unlucky build or whatever you may call it
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-27 01:46:49
May 27 2007 01:46 GMT
#182
On May 26 2007 18:02 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Imho its bad mannered and arrogant. Not in a cool way but in a non respectful way. Gorush must have had the pressure of his life, because he knew : if he lost to someones off race he could bury himself as well ; D


Yeah my point exactly, you can see it both ways. To go off-race means you lose potential, and Savior would've reached Midas-esque ridicule hadn't he advanced in the end. On the other hand, he knew that he would have to pull a 2-0 in the event that he'd lose his TvZ, thus pushing himself out of his comfort zone as well, which I find very respectable and ballsy.

What's certain is that it was a good show :-)
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
May 27 2007 03:05 GMT
#183
On May 26 2007 18:02 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Imho its bad mannered and arrogant. Not in a cool way but in a non respectful way. Gorush must have had the pressure of his life, because he knew : if he lost to someones off race he could bury himself as well ; D

I'm pretty sure Savior and Gorush are friends though so I don't think it was a big deal and was probably mostly fun. If Gorush had lost he might feel a little bad or embarrassed or whatever but I doubt he would feel or did feel disrespected.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
May 27 2007 07:52 GMT
#184
On May 27 2007 02:50 ilbh wrote:
lol
stork the best protoss... rapped by much and ggplay
he is good but not that much
better than bisu is a joke ffs


What you said would have merit if Stork didn't beat Bisu.... but of course, he did. Much also "rapped" Bisu. Stork has been playing wonderfully beating big names left and right while Bisu has just been losing left and right.
Marines > everything
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 27 2007 08:03 GMT
#185
On May 27 2007 16:52 vnlegend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2007 02:50 ilbh wrote:
lol
stork the best protoss... rapped by much and ggplay
he is good but not that much
better than bisu is a joke ffs


What you said would have merit if Stork didn't beat Bisu.... but of course, he did. Much also "rapped" Bisu. Stork has been playing wonderfully beating big names left and right while Bisu has just been losing left and right.


By left and right, I hope you mean in Proleague only.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
May 27 2007 13:11 GMT
#186
On May 27 2007 12:05 boghat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2007 18:02 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Imho its bad mannered and arrogant. Not in a cool way but in a non respectful way. Gorush must have had the pressure of his life, because he knew : if he lost to someones off race he could bury himself as well ; D

I'm pretty sure Savior and Gorush are friends though so I don't think it was a big deal and was probably mostly fun. If Gorush had lost he might feel a little bad or embarrassed or whatever but I doubt he would feel or did feel disrespected.


I think it is still somewhat awkward though. GoRush contributed greatly to what sAviOr is today - don't you think their playstyles are extremely similar? They were teammates, and GoRush practically raised sAviOr.

Then, sAviOr goes and offraces against his one time mentor because he's the shit these days. Iono, I'd be so pissed if I was GoRush - especially because in Asian culture, respect towards teachers and elders is SO important.

I am quite happy GoRush beat him with ridiculous humiliation strategy.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
May 28 2007 05:02 GMT
#187
Almost time for a new Power Rank~~ =D
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 28 2007 05:10 GMT
#188
Predictions? ;D

1. Bisu
2. Savior
3. Stork
4. Nada
5. Oov
6. Hwasin
7. Sea
8. Nal_rA
9. July
10. Gorush
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
May 28 2007 08:22 GMT
#189
You may want to consider Firebathero on the next PR.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
May 28 2007 09:12 GMT
#190
Bisu definitely NOT in first.

He's doing well in individual leagues, but no better than July or rA or Stork or any of those beasts.

To top that, he sports one of the worst ProLeague records around - worse than Hery, worse than MuMyung [ok so MuMyung has a very good record] - almost as bad as Clon's.

Does not deserve first.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 28 2007 09:42 GMT
#191
Bisu is in both MSL and OSL though, Nal_rA is only in MSL, so is July. But Stork is in both, yes.
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
May 28 2007 18:25 GMT
#192
Id say being undefeated in both major leagues overides having a losing record in proleague. You could still match bisu up with all the top players and hed probably win.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
May 28 2007 21:48 GMT
#193
Yes the whole point is Bisu keeps on winning against Savior and Nada - see WWI - and is only slumping in Proleague, so he should probably be first. I'd go something like

1. Bisu
2. Savior
3. Stork
4. Oov
5. Nada
6. Nal_rA
7. Hwasin
8. July
9. Sea
10. FirebatHero

"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-28 22:39:38
May 28 2007 22:23 GMT
#194
I know Bisu beats Savior every time right now but I still think Savior deserves number 1 more than Bisu.

Proleague:
Savior 3-4 1v1, 2-1 2v2
Bisu 1-5 1v1, 0-1 2v2

OSL:
Savior 2-0 over iloveoov and By.Flash
Bisu 2-0 over Nada and Darkelf

MSL:
Savior advanced 2-1 losing to Gorush in the game Savior played Terran
Bisu advanced 2-1 losing to Oversky

Savior was more concerned about playing Gorush again in the 5th game in the MSL ro32 than actually advancing. He's pimp and deserves #1.
On May 29 2007 06:48 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Yes the whole point is Bisu keeps on winning against Savior and Nada - see WWI -

Beating Nada 2-0 at the WWI isn't any more impressive or even less so than Savior beating Nal_rA 2-0 at the WWI. I'd say Nal_rA is in better form than Nada right now, he's 8-3 in PL compared to Nada's 7-6. Then Bisu beat Savior 2-1. Fine. But that's just one little tournament that means absolutely nothing so if you look at the other stats Savior definitely deserves it. We'll see if Bisu can keep beating Savior in games that matter, the MSL and OSL, but until then Savior gets the #1 spot.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 29 2007 06:23 GMT
#195
Well, Ra deserves more love.
That's for sure.
Who's this light kid right?
I mean, Ra is the light of my life.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 29 2007 06:30 GMT
#196
Why is it that SJM always speaks the truth?
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 29 2007 07:46 GMT
#197
ToSs Lover Carnac ; )

Im p gamer on my own.. and i also <3 Reach, Bisu , Ra ect.. but NaDa, Savior.. well basicaly i love skill more than anything else..

side note : did you guys realize, that Kingdom is basicaly the pro gamer who is around for almost.. like boxerish time..

i found an old interview of Grrrr... from 00 ( !! ) where he should name a few players of the best race.. and guess what..

[AoS]Kingdom was mentioned, too.. omg sick.. this guy is active for 8 years now o___O

still he isnt one of the all time greats.... ( srry carnac )
hatred outlives the hateful
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4411 Posts
May 29 2007 18:40 GMT
#198
Hmm, a bit tough to place top 3-4 now, with the current records of Stork, Bisu, Savior.
Same goes for NaDa, if he loses the next OSL game he's pretty much out, no individual league...
imo Bisu and sAviOr still deserve top2 one way or the other, above Stork, just for this PR to see what'll happen next, all three indeed are in both leagues and doing well, but sAviOr and Bisu hold the titles after all :-) Until Stork defeats one of them in a Starleague he shouldn't go above them in PR. When one of those three will fall out of a Starleague things can change, that'll happen soon enough since Strok vs sAviOr @ MSL Ro16, Bo3, will say alot, but thats not for the upcoming PR :-) Lets see if DJ can predict it correctly :-P
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boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-29 19:24:18
May 29 2007 19:22 GMT
#199
A bo3 never really says that much but since it's all we can base skill on those will definitely be important games for our Power Rank. I can't wait for them!
Silverflame
Profile Joined August 2006
United States428 Posts
May 30 2007 04:06 GMT
#200
Stork should be above Savior and Bisu, although it's close. All three are in the two major leagues and doing well, but Stork's also been tearing through Proleague at the same time, something which rarely happens. He has an amazing 9-2 in Proleague (I think only Sea comes close with 8-3), compared to Savior's 3-4 and Bisu's 1-5. Granted, Savior's four losses were two ZvZ's, one to a cannon rush, and one from HIM, so I can understand putting Savior above Stork (since Savior's undefeated in OSL and MSL aside from playing off-race vs Gorush).

Yet Stork is undefeated in the major leagues as well, other than his failed proxy robo vs GGPlay, which should be discounted if we were so willing to overlook Savior's loss to Ra's cannon rush. Furthermore, if we're willing to overlook Savior's ZvZ losses, then the same should be done for Stork's loss against Much in Proleague (since PvP and ZvZ both have a lot of luck) - especially since he beat Much in the MSL just a few days after. That leaves Stork with one loss I can't explain, which was against Sea.Leta. Maybe that one loss is enough to keep him from #1 on the Power Rank, I dunno.

As for Bisu, I think his 1-5 in Proleague speaks for itself.
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