WCSHow often do you play StarCraft?
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XiZeL
Switzerland90 Posts
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BlueStar
Bulgaria906 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8155 Posts
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[TOKR]SavageDaddae
United States3 Posts
But yea I alwayz have WCS going on in the background on the TV. Addicting... Shit i remember when the game first came out, and Counter - Strike was the thing back then. Gettn Old...... | ||
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tokinho
United States772 Posts
Co-op is very buggy and my teammate is more likely to attack me than finish a game or people don't do things that they need to to win and you cannot solo carry in mutations very easily. Despite having new units to micro and its fun to micro them, they tend to not be very useful for mutations. Its kind of like heroes where the things that are mechanically interesting are bogged down by the slow pace and stupid mechanics of fighting map vision more than anything. | ||
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Garemie
United States248 Posts
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BaneRiders
Sweden3456 Posts
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Creager
Germany1559 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia17190 Posts
 I play several times a week for BW. Once a month for SC2. But watch both a ton. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France20972 Posts
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forsooth
United States3644 Posts
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RuiBarbO
United States913 Posts
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Big-t
Austria1310 Posts
Same for me, tournaments can be very entertaining, especially team fights like PL. Playing however is to intense... | ||
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sakurazawa
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about 150~ in HoTS almost never in LoTV lost the passion after all these years guess LoTV changed too much and i dont have the motivation to adapt | ||
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plasmidghost
United States2771 Posts
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Jj_82
Swaziland402 Posts
On June 13 2016 04:05 forsooth wrote: HotS campaign was really dull. LotV though was fantastic, and much more polished!Stopped playing regularly towards the end of WoL and stopped playing altogether during HotS. Never bought LotV. Not a fan of the endless push toward faster pacing and mobility over map and space control. Also hated how garbage the campaign was, both in terms of missions and writing. On topic, due to circumstances I only play a session every two weeks. If I could choose, I'd play every second day... | ||
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Roboroadkill
United States16 Posts
On normal days I'll get 20 games in, but on days where I have the computer to myself I get 40 - 50. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7206 Posts
You are depriving yourself of an amazing experience, I mean holyyyy shit | ||
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Hockleberry
63 Posts
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RuiBarbO
United States913 Posts
On June 14 2016 12:55 ninazerg wrote: 16% said "Never"? WHAT You are depriving yourself of an amazing experience, I mean holyyyy shit I agree it's amazing, but what sucks is not playing for a week due to whatever circumstances come up and then wham, I'm back to forgetting to build a supply depot or I autopilot into a build that's two patches outdated. So frustrating (at least for me) :\ | ||
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Pippah
Denmark335 Posts
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tantalus
50 Posts
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TaShadan
Germany1943 Posts
On June 14 2016 12:55 ninazerg wrote: 16% said "Never"? WHAT You are depriving yourself of an amazing experience, I mean holyyyy shit Its never for me too. I played broodwar daily from 1998 to 2004 and played frequently up to 2008. But these days i am not playing anymore. And sc2 is not my taste. | ||
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WidowMineHero
New Zealand143 Posts
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FanaticCZ
Czech Republic287 Posts
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Sketch123
Russian Federation11 Posts
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mantequilla
Turkey750 Posts
Streams are fun though. Interesting games + an interesting streamer makes watching worthwhile. Tournaments are boring because most of the prominent players quit the game, or play rarely. Fun casters like Day9 quit too. I miss the Wol era and the beginning of Hots, until the broodlord+infestor period. What was wrong with wol that they changed it this much? | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1583 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3230 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7501 Posts
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kagamin
United States189 Posts
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Danglars
United States10862 Posts
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IIEclipseII
Germany128 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3331 Posts
Since LotV I play a couple of games a month. I really don't enjoy it as much  | ||
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Cele
Germany3656 Posts
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ProMeTheus112
France1521 Posts
or maybe at some lan if someone challenges me oh wait there is no lan mode^^j/k | ||
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NotSorry
United States5951 Posts
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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
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Alex)
Scotland235 Posts
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a9arnn
United States1533 Posts
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shenlong
219 Posts
Legacy of the Void left me completely dissatisfied, I didn't even bother purchasing the expansion, after beta. I don't even watch StarCraft 2 anymore either, though I do like to read on events once in a while. EDIT: I do occasionally watch Brood War Streams. | ||
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SC2Towelie
United States561 Posts
On June 13 2016 14:02 plasmidghost wrote: Yeah my passion for the game died around the time HotS was released, I haven't even watched a match since 2013 Then why do you come to TL? O.o | ||
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SC2Towelie
United States561 Posts
On June 15 2016 13:43 Pippah wrote: I am back playing broodwar again. Everytime I try sc2 I get so demotivated, I hate how its become more and more macro, one base builds and intense early micro battles are almost gone. What game are you watching? LotV is the most micro/aggression focused version of SC2 we've ever had. | ||
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Ctesias
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Clbull
United Kingdom1392 Posts
In fact, with a few balance changes and redesigns of depreciated units like the Raven, the Reaper, and a small buff to Terran Mech against Protoss, Wings of Liberty could have been the successor to Brood War. Why? Because back in the days of Wings of Liberty, we didn't have to worry about frustrating units and game mechanics like:
I just hate Legacy of the Void. Wings, hell, even HotS was much better. | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1392 Posts
The DOTA 2, League of Legends, Heroes of the Storm, SSBM and Hearthstone communities housed within? | ||
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RuiBarbO
United States913 Posts
On June 26 2016 03:50 Clbull wrote: The DOTA 2, League of Legends, Heroes of the Storm, SSBM and Hearthstone communities housed within? You forgot Brood War! Unless that was implicit in your earlier statement. | ||
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breaker1328
Canada281 Posts
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Inertiatic
United States1 Post
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RipeNomad
Canada12 Posts
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MaestroSC
United States1996 Posts
Played a shitload of WoL Played a pretty decent amount of HotS Played 4-5 LotV matches online. Thought WoL was fun, but didnt really agree with the changes from BW to WoL. (Banelings are stupid, horribly designed units. If Z only counter to Terrans cheapest units, are ones that die even if they win the fight... i dont understand why this is acceptable). Then came widow mines... not going to even comment on how horrible these units are. Add in Protoss' Sentries, and it gets even more frustrating. Blizzard doesnt understand what makes the RTS genre worth playing/watching Its not explosions. Its not max supply armies crashing into eachother for 1 fight and then a game over. All Blizzard has been doing in an attempt to be popular, is trying to speed up the game, and get players to max armies as fast as possible... thats not what RTS or Strategy games are about. We want to see/experience slow, steady, well thought out/well executed play. By eliminating/speeding up the early game, they got rid of HALF of the variance of the game. Dont agree with the extra workers at start. Never agreed with the multiple vespene geysers.... never agreed with the game becoming "race to 200/200 and fight and gg" | ||
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Jealous
7793 Posts
MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK BABY | ||
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mrarthursimon
United States55 Posts
On June 28 2016 08:23 MaestroSC wrote: We want to see/experience slow, steady, well thought out/well executed play. By eliminating/speeding up the early game, they got rid of HALF of the variance of the game. Dont agree with the extra workers at start. Never agreed with the multiple vespene geysers.... never agreed with the game becoming "race to 200/200 and fight and gg" Speak for yourself. You have a nostalgia boner and that's totally fine. The mechanics of Broodwar were necessitated because of the technology available at the time. Just because that is what it was then doesn't mean that's the way it has to be now when the tools we have at our disposal give us so much more we can do. Is SC2 faster paced than BW? Yes! But I would expect it to be now that we don't have the kind of limiting factors that shaped BW into what it was, like unit select size and complexity of the engine. Never agreed with multiple vespene geysers? That's almost pre-BW talk even. That's really old school. I can understand and appreciate your opinion, but it's an old and outdated one that refuses to acknowledge that we can do better than we did, and just says that we have to do things the way they were done "in my day" because "That's what I'm used to and I refuse to accept that change can be good". If I'm wrong please let me know. I'd love to have a discussion on this issue because though I played SC1 and BW from the time they released I see SC2 as an all around improvement on everything BW tried to be but fell short of. | ||
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RealEyes
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MaestroSC
United States1996 Posts
On June 28 2016 11:15 mrarthursimon wrote: Speak for yourself. You have a nostalgia boner and that's totally fine. The mechanics of Broodwar were necessitated because of the technology available at the time. Just because that is what it was then doesn't mean that's the way it has to be now when the tools we have at our disposal give us so much more we can do. Is SC2 faster paced than BW? Yes! But I would expect it to be now that we don't have the kind of limiting factors that shaped BW into what it was, like unit select size and complexity of the engine. Never agreed with multiple vespene geysers? That's almost pre-BW talk even. That's really old school. I can understand and appreciate your opinion, but it's an old and outdated one that refuses to acknowledge that we can do better than we did, and just says that we have to do things the way they were done "in my day" because "That's what I'm used to and I refuse to accept that change can be good". If I'm wrong please let me know. I'd love to have a discussion on this issue because though I played SC1 and BW from the time they released I see SC2 as an all around improvement on everything BW tried to be but fell short of. Except BW is rising in popularity, while SC2 has been declining since WoL. Look at stream numbers literally on TL at this very second... BW top 2 streamers have combined 5700 viewers. Top 2 of SC2 have 1600. Comparing one of the most long-lasting and most successful RTS of all times in terms of playerbase and popularity, to its successor which hasnt managed to stay relevant over a period of half the length. So obviously a majority of people who enjoy the RTS genre disagree with you. I wouldnt even agree that SC2 is faster paced than BW... it just skips the early and mid game, and rushes everyone to the late game, in every single match, removing a lot of depth of the game. Whereas BW had a lot more time for an early and mid-game to develop. Saying BW was limited by the tech of the time, and those things held it back..when they didnt, even if only accidentally, they actually improved the game. I wont argue with you that BW accidentally stumbled on a more balanced, and better designed game, even if those choices were forced on them by tech limitations. But there is no point in hopping in this thread to argue with you about why BW is superior, and even though Blizzard worked so hrd to squash it to make room for SC2, it is looking more and more likely that BW is going to outlast SC2 as a competitive title. I am done trying to salvage SC2 into a game I want to play/enjoy. Because too many cling to the "Its so much better now! You just have rose tinted glasses!" Enjoy your dead game then, and keep refusing to acknowledge there are things you could have learned from your previous title, and implemented in order to have increased your games' success And I wont even bother getting into BW vs Sc2 when it comes to user generated content, accessibility, and the fact that BW despite being 10+ years older, had a better implemented system to allow user generated content to become popular, and add longevity to the UMS scene of their game. Bnet 2.0 has been a joke since its implementation. | ||
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Jealous
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stevorino
957 Posts
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TheSayo182
Italy234 Posts
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Infiiiniity
43 Posts
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Infiiiniity
43 Posts
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Loanshark
China1777 Posts
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washikie
United States579 Posts
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iamcaustic
Canada1448 Posts
Now I'm just a dirty TL lurker hoping to read a community balance update that will make me want to play the game again. | ||
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Riner1212
United States227 Posts
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lestye
United States3164 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Befree
683 Posts
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Noocta
France12095 Posts
I still can't believe I have over 10 000 messages posted over the 3 or so years I was hardcore into this game. Seems crazy. | ||
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Latham
5881 Posts
On July 10 2016 04:07 Noocta wrote: Haven't played since BL Infestors days, bought HoTS for story, didn't buy LotV. I watch a few tournaments a year when I come accros them. But I got very attached to TeamLiquid, might be the last decent forum out there, so I kinda follow the scene from that and reddit. I still can't believe I have over 10 000 messages posted over the 3 or so years I was hardcore into this game. Seems crazy. I'm in the same boat. Wings was fun, HotS played through the story but multiplayer felt burnt-out and didn't even buy LotV, just watched cinematics on youtube.. But I still really enjoyed watching Dreamhack and seeing Taeja win. Also watch those "top 10 games of the year" comps that you guys make for the site. As far as watching and playing goes I switched over to Dota2 as soon as it hit the buy-in during closed beta. Best 20$ I ever spent. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3347 Posts
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Froadac
United States6336 Posts
On June 13 2016 04:24 RuiBarbO wrote: Out of curiosity, what are the 15% of people who answered "Never" on the poll doing when they visit TL? Are they here for spectating, or mafia, or what? The people. | ||
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Pewpz
Canada21 Posts
I used to play a lot. Since dabbling with LotV a week after release I haven't played a single game. I feel the game is completely stale and many of the balance changes were reactionary alterations that ultimately ensured the game (read: each race) is only played effectively in one or two styles. For example, when I was last playing Terran was primarily bio all game, every game, and every match up. Things may be different now but years of stagnant gameplay at pro and amateur levels killed my desire to play. | ||
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RuiBarbO
United States913 Posts
Care to clarify? (not intending to sound snarky, really just curious) | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On July 13 2016 03:41 RuiBarbO wrote: Care to clarify? (not intending to sound snarky, really just curious) Speaking just for me, I haven't played online SC for years, I only go through the single player content once nowadays. But I do follow the pro scene fairly closely, so that's why I come here mostly. I also visit the hots forums and articles, as they are, because I do play that with friends. | ||
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Jan1997
Norway580 Posts
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3FFA
United States3876 Posts
I also play The Thing -Arctic- and some Phantom . I miss BW's Mafia Beta http://www.staredit.net/topic/9463/0/ | ||
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orllyfools
United States153 Posts
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pundurs
Latvia38 Posts
Interesting poll results, never the less. | ||
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ionONE
Germany605 Posts
Tried to like Legacy/played a lot at some point, well archon mode and co op but didn´t keep me interested for long. I fully stopped watching sc2 on twitch (other then gsl final). I plan to watch all the asl broodwar league stuff, really enjoyed Sundays games. | ||
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africola
Germany35 Posts
behaving like you can show blizzard by not gaming anymore xDD | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On June 13 2016 04:24 RuiBarbO wrote: Out of curiosity, what are the 15% of people who answered "Never" on the poll doing when they visit TL? Are they here for spectating, or mafia, or what? I stopped with LotV. I played one Mafia game. My reason to come here is the long term high quality that tl.net overall delivers. Also, I try to keep up with the scene since before the Koreans got locked out, I felt that with KR practice partners on EU, foreigners had a basis to grow skillwise. I was hoping for a joint koreigner scene and still expect Blizzard to finally change the system. Foreign competitive events feel empty as they do not deliver top competition. But I like players such as Harstem and Snute. So I don't want to leave this site. Oh and I am still waiting for that global event wcs thingy. Summary: LotV is a bad game and Blizzard is artificially keeping it alive. I want WoL or HotS back. Both had their flaws, but both were way more fun to play. Edit: I've read a lot of comments by now. Maybe it's just nostalgia that makes me blame the game and Blizzard. I mean, I still play CS:GO - a lot. I play Dead By Daylight, sometimes we even get out AoE 2 and have a game or two. I don't think my missing passion is related to nostalgia, after re-thinking it. Maybe it is because "I am used to something. Now it is changed. Adapt to the change." At least I identified that as the reason for me to quit Heroes. | ||
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mucker
United States1119 Posts
Haven't watched or played StarCraft2 since shortly after Heart of the swarm release. I didn't really like Wings of liberty but I stuck with it and played online a fair amount because Blizzard expansions had always made games better for me in the past. Also watched to follow the pros I had become fans of in Broodwar. Hots felt like more of the same and pros I liked were falling off so I was done. Haven't seen a single minute of lotv, just reading about it told me I would hate it. | ||
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fr4nk1sh
Sweden58 Posts
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MarlieChurphy
United States2005 Posts
On June 13 2016 04:24 RuiBarbO wrote: Out of curiosity, what are the 15% of people who answered "Never" on the poll doing when they visit TL? Are they here for spectating, or mafia, or what? Even back in like 2006 or whatever before sc2 was even announced as alpha a lot of people didnt even play BW but still came to the site for the community, the news, replays, liquibet, and because they were fans of players or teams etc. Now the site has multiple games, and is completely different than how it was back then, so obviously more people come here for more reasons. Me personally for example, used to play a ton of BW and SC2, rarely watched anything to do with progaming or payed attention to that news. It's the same for phsyical sports too, I'd much rather play than watch other people play. So I came here for the community and sharing of information about playing the game (new maps, strats, glitches, etc). I rarely play any SC anymore, where I used to put in like 400 games a month at my peak. And ever since the site changed for SC2 and all these other new games (as well as simply getting older and taking careers) the community sort of disappeared, at least for the veterans anyway. So I occasionally pop into the site just to see what's goin on. | ||
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Highways
Australia6051 Posts
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OmniEulogy
Canada2859 Posts
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Kyir
United States373 Posts
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Incognoto
France10191 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands1787 Posts
On July 19 2016 21:09 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm just here to troll. #deadgame But really, I bleed over from liquiddota and sometimes I'll watch korean broodwar events. | ||
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RichardNPL
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Censured
Czech Republic1055 Posts
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CarlMikael
Sweden722 Posts
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BadHabits1
4 Posts
On August 12 2016 22:09 RichardNPL wrote: played around 1600 games since lotv release i bought this account solely to play LotV and i have like 4k games | ||
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DevilDriver
Germany29 Posts
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Prodigy311
United States4 Posts
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Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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SHODAN
United Kingdom786 Posts
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Jason1
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Vari
United States532 Posts
it's a great alternative to the insane randomness of hearthstone I watch every single korean match that happens including BW. It is my absolute favorite form of entertainment and I can't imagine not having it | ||
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Bub
United States3488 Posts
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Zinnwaldite
Norway1565 Posts
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ShivaN
United States880 Posts
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MadaoDotaSc2
Greece33 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia3472 Posts
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-NegativeZero-
United States2090 Posts
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Broodie
Canada831 Posts
a few weeks ago I flicked on teamliquid to see what was happening in the pro-scene and all I can say is wow. SC2 looks better than it ever did before, yet less and less people are playing it now. It is fast and difficult, but it always was. Im glad I dropped the money for multiplayer LotV lastnight will be playing and watching a ton more.... again | ||
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Jason1
9 Posts
I understand they want more and more data, but is it that hard to make it fair for all races with often/exciting balance changes? doesn't their team play this game to have understanding? really wish they would change game balance often, and even add units during seasons. | ||
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WightyCity
Canada857 Posts
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Peising
United States12 Posts
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legola
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ImGamerKind32
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Damnight
Germany216 Posts
Nova Cover obs or w/e it's called was fun aswell | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2733 Posts
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Trizztein1
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n3p
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juliansniff
United States49 Posts
Lately I've been playing a lot of LoL just because it's so much less stressful to play. It's a real shame because I prefer the 1v1 format and LoL queue times are ten times longer than LotV. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12702 Posts
On June 18 2016 08:46 BreAKerTV wrote: Im being.generous, havent played since april. My favorite game is blizzards least favorite. Rock 'n Roll Racing? | ||
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Shapelog
United States5173 Posts
Lost Vikings? | ||
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Probe1
United States17912 Posts
What the heck are you guys doing here haha | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA21769 Posts
On November 10 2016 12:17 Probe1 wrote: .. never is now the top choice. What the heck are you guys doing here haha Force of habit? My last time playing SC was about 4 years ago. Christ. I've only posted a few times this year yet my all time average is still over 20 posts a week lol. My activity chart: | ||
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Vriana
3 Posts
Think once I've gone as far as I can with those I'll prolly stop though as I think this game is way out of my league! Hopefully will be able to complete the hard mode achievements (don't laugh). Shame they are stopping creating new campaigns cause I love the game but just not good enough for the 1vs1 side of things. | ||
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Poly_Optimize
Canada139 Posts
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BlazingGlory
Bulgaria187 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4822 Posts
How often do you play Starcraft? : Never (3822) 21% A few times a week (3778) 21% Daily (3019) 17% Every few months (2397) 13% Yearly (2313) 13% Every couple weeks (1169) 6% Once a week (863) 5% Once a month (694) 4% Top answers are unexpected on a StarCraft website.. | ||
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Probe1
United States17912 Posts
On November 11 2016 04:31 EvilTeletubby wrote: Force of habit? My last time playing SC was about 4 years ago. Christ. I've only posted a few times this year yet my all time average is still over 20 posts a week lol. My activity chart: oh gosh ETT quoted me and I missed it. I haven't seen you post in so long and you were the cool mod when I first registered. | ||
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xtorn
4048 Posts
I must say i loved the game a lot when Life was supreme king, it was very motivating seeing him play, I was making visible progress in HOTS, even got coached by some of the NA elite (it was really interesting to see how they think and approach various situations), was really invested passion wise in the game and really enjoyed playing it back then ; now the hype levels have stabilized to a lukewarm feeling, with some temporary spikes of passion when Dark, Snute, Scarlett, Nerchio are doing well, which inspires me to login and play every now and then. | ||
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andrewlt
United States6798 Posts
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TheHumanLife
Korea (South)134 Posts
In Korea, it seems the biggest problem is people think sc2 is kinda too obvious game, where you have to play in limited meta, if you make even one mistake then you are in danger to lose the game, and if you lose one huge fight then you never can come back from that. But, still I love this scene and can't quit that easily, cuz I remember how I played this game a lot during WOL, so I guess I will be sticking around and watch until this scene is ended | ||
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asdfOu
United States2086 Posts
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Beelzebub1
629 Posts
WOL was the best incarnation of this game, if Zerg in WOL had Lurkers the game would have been perfect, until then, David Kim ruined this game just like he ruined DOW (with 2 out of 6 races being even viable to play) | ||
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PaztheLobster
Philippines25 Posts
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washikie
United States579 Posts
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MaestroSC
United States1996 Posts
On December 13 2016 03:39 Beelzebub1 wrote: Never, the game now more then ever hangs on a razor edge where a single mistake or micro error can cost you the game. LOTV made the game even more punishing to make comebacks on and on top of that introduced a bunch of balance changes and units that seem geared to slaughter workers in the blink of an eye. Plain and simple, it's not fun, and it's not well designed. WOL was the best incarnation of this game, if Zerg in WOL had Lurkers the game would have been perfect, until then, David Kim ruined this game just like he ruined DOW (with 2 out of 6 races being even viable to play) agreed 100%. I used to play Sc2 exclusively for a year or 2 when WoL came out. HotS came out and i laddered for a month or so. Ive tried LotV multiplayer a couple times, but its more so just to laugh when someone does/build something and i realize "thats actually a thing?!" Like I got Battlecruiser rushed...but it doesnt have to fly across the map..they get warped in at my base... Luckily I was just a lot better than my opponent from placements and managed to just continually expand and continually replenish dead drone lines while sending lings across the map to hinder him.... was halfass mining from 6-7 bases and lings were keeping him from mirroring. He would have won if he transitioned into anything besides mass BC and widow mines.. but i just massed corruptors and lings. But when it happened i literally burst out laughing "WTF this is a thing now? Battlecruisers warping into my base?!" And as i play i remembered why i dont play anymore... Widow mines. A unit that if u get lucky will instant win the game, and if you are unlucky will instantly lose you the game.... thats what the game needs. an invisible unit that has the ability to instantly kill all of my mutalisks/zerglings if i run over the wrong part of the map... lmao what a joke. | ||
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tili
United States1315 Posts
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VorGirL
72 Posts
This game is how I met my husband (at a LAN) and I will probably always be playing it. Only negative thing I can think of is I havent been able to find a good monobattles in LOTV, theres was a great day9 one in HOTS... Also love to watch streams/Vods/tournys! | ||
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CUTtheCBC
Canada91 Posts
then again i got married and had a kid so~ luckily there's a huge brood war revival going on right now with english casting, so i watch that pretty regularly! jaedong vs flash coming up in t4 soon! | ||
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poboxy
Canada48 Posts
I never cared about the campaign, they should have made a $10 version to access ladder. But now meh. | ||
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aqake
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Dark_A
Lithuania5 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13247 Posts
On November 11 2016 04:31 EvilTeletubby wrote: Force of habit? My last time playing SC was about 4 years ago. Christ. I've only posted a few times this year yet my all time average is still over 20 posts a week lol. My activity chart: did we play? | ||
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Jer99
Canada8155 Posts
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starslayer
United States659 Posts
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MarlieChurphy
United States2005 Posts
On January 21 2017 11:20 Jer99 wrote: I think we need a new poll Longest poll in TL history? I rarely ever play SC anymore. RIP BW and SC2 for me. Too much of a time sink as we get older with more IRL responsibilities and less dexterous. | ||
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Dumbledore
Sweden722 Posts
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c0sm0naut
United States1196 Posts
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