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Power Rank 12/15/2010 - Page 5

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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 16 2010 13:48 GMT
#81
What? How can he lost so much? O_o
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 16 2010 14:06 GMT
#82
On December 16 2010 22:48 Holgerius wrote:
What? How can he lost so much? O_o

Because neither Classic nor Ssak have really won anything, ever.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 16:02:04
December 16 2010 15:56 GMT
#83
There needs to be some sort of consistency in how you determine a month now. These monthly power rankings aren't even turning into monthly power rankings anymore: you're taking into consideration a lot more than the last month if you're saying that Flash went 15-2 and Jaedong went 15-5, and etc. I don't see the point in doing this since we have enough games for the past month anyways. In a way, you're artificially inflating/deflating results that aren't even for the last month since the Power Rank.

I mean, if you look at Kal's games for the past month since the last power ranking, you would see that he only went a modest 5-3, with losses to Bisu, Brave (?!) and Sea.

Doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever I guess.

EDIT: And I disagree with TwoToneTerran. Since I've been here, I've found that PR writers tend to have an emphasis on the fact that it's the MONTHLY power rankings and not the start of the season's power rankings. There's no point in having a season's power ranking because it tends to be a lot more stagnant and unrepresentative of the SCBW scene at that moment in time. It doesn't take into consideration hot streaks and cold slumps that happen so often and quickly. The only times I've seen PR writers have an emphasis on past results are when it's a significant past result (like winning the OSL/MSL) or when there aren't enough games played.
Bazhi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States12 Posts
December 16 2010 16:35 GMT
#84
This PR is terrible. This is not a monthly power ranking, this is a fanboy fueled overall ranking where past achievements overwhelm current level of play.

User was banned for this post.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 16 2010 17:16 GMT
#85
Think of ESPN's weekly NFL power rankings. Now imagine them changing it so that only the week previous to the ranking is considered.

Turning this into a ranking of months rather than the monthly ranking that it has (usually) been would have the same result.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 16 2010 19:47 GMT
#86
I think Plexa put it well, it's a measure of how good a player is at any given month. Current results count the most, but backtracking a bit is good too just because there may be something relevant(like Flash 3-0 JD).
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland236 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 22:27:06
December 16 2010 22:21 GMT
#87
I'd like to state here something.

The best player who was born on this planet is Robert James Fischer.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044166

Second best player is Nakamura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZo8O-p9qy4)

And third is Godterran, Flash.

Every fight between players in mindgames should be Bo21,
or at least Bo7, sc2 GSL2 final proves it.

We should watch only best of best games from them, or all if have spare time.

I know KesPa won't read what i wrote in some stupid TL topic.

But I think it is salvation for SC:BW if things continue with mass switching to sc2,
and appearing of sc2 in this regard could be a healthy thing.

Ok, I am sooooo drunk xD but IT IS what i think I just think it won't change anything if i wrote this
EX CATHEDRA!
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
December 16 2010 22:32 GMT
#88
I guess I can't really argue with the results for this PR, since they kinda reflect the performances of the players. I just hope that Bisu and Stork start performing better, so that they can get higher spots in the PR (and Stork can finally get #1 spot again).

Though I have to admit I love the reference to Shine's bathroom "problem" and the shoutout to Daniel. =)
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
December 16 2010 23:02 GMT
#89
Ah after a whole year the gods answered my prayers

no Flash in MSL
Writer
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 01:40:42
December 17 2010 01:20 GMT
#90
On December 17 2010 08:02 swanized wrote:
Ah after a whole year the gods answered my prayers

no Flash in MSL

This is good news, but unless he goes into a slump it won't mean all that much.

On December 17 2010 07:21 DracoVolantus wrote:
Every fight between players in mindgames should be Bo21,
or at least Bo7, sc2 GSL2 final proves it.

It isn't supposed to be mindgames, it's supposed to be straight up game although once in a while someone will deprive us of that.
And while I'd like Bo7 as much as anyone, there are practical concerns that make Bo7 kinda hard. Mostly that playing 5-7 games tends to take its toll on the players and the need of the timeslots for other things.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
December 17 2010 07:57 GMT
#91
Man, Flash is lucky the powerrank came out when it did. No way he would have kept #1 if the rank was released today. Fortunately, he has a month to make us forget this problem.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 17 2010 09:23 GMT
#92
On December 17 2010 10:20 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 08:02 swanized wrote:
Ah after a whole year the gods answered my prayers

no Flash in MSL

This is good news, but unless he goes into a slump it won't mean all that much.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 07:21 DracoVolantus wrote:
Every fight between players in mindgames should be Bo21,
or at least Bo7, sc2 GSL2 final proves it.

It isn't supposed to be mindgames, it's supposed to be straight up game although once in a while someone will deprive us of that.
And while I'd like Bo7 as much as anyone, there are practical concerns that make Bo7 kinda hard. Mostly that playing 5-7 games tends to take its toll on the players and the need of the timeslots for other things.



It will matter for the MSL though lol how can you say it won't? Its either going to be Jaedong, or a completely new winner (and a higher chance of a new winner sense one of the 2 are out). This may be one of the only chances in awhile a new player can win but I'm hoping Jaedong does :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
December 17 2010 12:27 GMT
#93
For the firts time im agreeing 100% with a rank.

Congrats!
I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 17 2010 17:40 GMT
#94
Flash will likely drop next month unless all the other contenders for #1 slip as well. And Free out of both leagues...
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 17 2010 17:51 GMT
#95
On December 18 2010 02:40 Mortality wrote:
Flash will likely drop next month unless all the other contenders for #1 slip as well. And Free out of both leagues...

Flash is 19 points from losing #1 ELO... losing to rookies really hurts.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
December 17 2010 21:00 GMT
#96
Flash loses two games.

Chaos in the power rank thread.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 17 2010 23:27 GMT
#97
On December 18 2010 02:51 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 02:40 Mortality wrote:
Flash will likely drop next month unless all the other contenders for #1 slip as well. And Free out of both leagues...

Flash is 19 points from losing #1 ELO... losing to rookies really hurts.


JD also gained about 20 ELO points since the ranking was put up. He's been steady in the low 2300's for a while now.

These days it's really easy (for top players...) to put on points up to about 2250. After that it losses start to hurt a lot more.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 17 2010 23:50 GMT
#98
other than the last 3 (which are a crapshoot anyway) this is one of the most accurate PR's I've ever read, well done
brood war for life, brood war forever
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 05:46:58
December 18 2010 05:42 GMT
#99
Psh, stork consistently underranked.

On December 17 2010 07:21 DracoVolantus wrote:
I'd like to state here something.

The best player who was born on this planet is Robert James Fischer.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044166

Second best player is Nakamura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZo8O-p9qy4)

And third is Godterran, Flash.

Every fight between players in mindgames should be Bo21,
or at least Bo7, sc2 GSL2 final proves it.

We should watch only best of best games from them, or all if have spare time.

I know KesPa won't read what i wrote in some stupid TL topic.

But I think it is salvation for SC:BW if things continue with mass switching to sc2,
and appearing of sc2 in this regard could be a healthy thing.

Ok, I am sooooo drunk xD but IT IS what i think I just think it won't change anything if i wrote this


SC2 is a much faster game than SC1. Watching a BO7 of BW will be long and tiring and not enjoyable. BO5 is fine.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 18 2010 06:06 GMT
#100
On December 18 2010 14:42 MuffinDude wrote:
Psh, stork consistently underranked.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 07:21 DracoVolantus wrote:
I'd like to state here something.

The best player who was born on this planet is Robert James Fischer.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044166

Second best player is Nakamura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZo8O-p9qy4)

And third is Godterran, Flash.

Every fight between players in mindgames should be Bo21,
or at least Bo7, sc2 GSL2 final proves it.

We should watch only best of best games from them, or all if have spare time.

I know KesPa won't read what i wrote in some stupid TL topic.

But I think it is salvation for SC:BW if things continue with mass switching to sc2,
and appearing of sc2 in this regard could be a healthy thing.

Ok, I am sooooo drunk xD but IT IS what i think I just think it won't change anything if i wrote this


SC2 is a much faster game than SC1. Watching a BO7 of BW will be long and tiring and not enjoyable. BO5 is fine.

Indeed, I remember an occasion where a Bo5 (might've been a Bo7 even) in GSL (can't remember which one) was as long as ONE TvT game in BW that was going on at the same time.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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