EPTPower Rank 12/15/2010 - Page 7
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VictorJones
United States235 Posts
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
On December 20 2010 05:31 StylishVODs wrote: I also think that part of the issue here is that sc2 players doesn't know the game as well as bw-players yet (ofcourse) so they really don't know how to handle the different aggressive openings yet. Most games are so short nowadays but I'm guessing they'll get longer and longer as the strategies develops. Bo5 is best for BW imo. Makes every game enough important to win while it still is enough games to get in mind games and usually to determine the better player. You have no idea how it more than Bo5 would affect ego, You can't say someone was broken by all-in in fifth game in first 3 minutes. I'm talking You have no idea, how playing Bo5 4 days stright would improve the quality of games. Most people would enjoy it less but it's not the point, are money from people watching games live, and they don't have enough spirit to watch it, do they? | ||
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Malinor
Germany4716 Posts
On December 20 2010 08:15 DracoVolantus wrote: You have no idea how it more than Bo5 would affect ego, You can't say someone was broken by all-in in fifth game in first 3 minutes. I'm talking You have no idea, how playing Bo5 4 days stright would improve the quality of games. Most people would enjoy it less but it's not the point, are money from people watching games live, and they don't have enough spirit to watch it, do they? Please, you have to fix your english, your posts are mostly unreadable. You cannot argue with someone you don't even understand. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
 However, Im just phrasing my oppinion, not a fact. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
It's like he's been using Google translate or something. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On December 20 2010 07:42 VictorJones wrote: As to Flash, his TvT is not as incomprehensibly powerful as i'm used to. Losing to ssak? Really? I haven't watched those games from MSL, but it should be said that every now and again people start figuring out Flash's current style, so then he makes a few minor modifications and he's good to go again. This isn't as much of a mark against his TvT as people would like to think... You have to take results in context. The same goes with SC2. People complain about "worse" players winning because they figure out a "broken" strategy. Well... what do you expect? SC2 is still pretty early on in terms of pioneering. It's getting pioneered faster than SCBW did, but then that's also to be expected given replays and given knowledge carried over. Consequently, the pro scene there is very unstable. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On December 20 2010 09:29 Holgerius wrote: I generally have no idea what he's trying to say in his posts. It's like he's been using Google translate or something. I have to agree... The only thing I've been able to figure out up to now is that he's apparently a Flash fan, which is good. He seems to be an even bigger Kal fan though, which is not good. Everything else is a complete mystery to me... | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On December 20 2010 10:09 Mortality wrote: I haven't watched those games from MSL, but it should be said that every now and again people start figuring out Flash's current style, so then he makes a few minor modifications and he's good to go again. This isn't as much of a mark against his TvT as people would like to think... Well, remember that this PR was written a day before the MSL games... | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On December 20 2010 10:14 flamewheel wrote: Well, remember that this PR was written a day before the MSL games... I'm well aware. But even if it weren't, I'd probably have kept Flash as #1, given that there was some risk of JD dropping until Fantasy started slumping. It's just that the gap between #1 and #6 would have been less on paper. My view on where a player falls on the skill spectrum is much less reactionary than most peoples... | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On December 20 2010 10:19 Mortality wrote: I'm well aware. But even if it weren't, I'd probably have kept Flash as #1, given that there was some risk of JD dropping until Fantasy started slumping. It's just that the gap between #1 and #6 would have been less on paper. My view on where a player falls on the skill spectrum is much less reactionary than most peoples... Oh oh I was talking to the guy that you quoted haha. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5570 Posts
On December 20 2010 20:41 StylishVODs wrote: Flash dropping out of MSL was a bump in the road ofcourse. But I wouldn't say he should have dropped a spot for that. Seriously, no dual finals for a change isn't that bad is it... He lost to two no names in straight up games. It is not the end of the world but of course it should count on the power rank ffs! I think PR becomes more and more conservative for every month - when I first came to TL, PR was alot more about the month at hand. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
But getting knocked out in the Ro32 is kinda significant. A #1 shouldn't be knocked out that early. Jaedong has a good enough record this season, but he lost to the likes of Hydra, along with losses against Zero, Stork and Light(aka the 3 best opponents he played)... that would've been reason to bump him off #2 if not for Fanta fail. If JD keeps a good record this month then maybe he should get #1. The fact is, if Jaedong can show that he's not shaky in any MUs while Flash is beatable in 1, then who's more deserving of being called #1? | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Flash still deserves a fuckton of benefit of doubt. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
But then again 5/10 have been to Flash and 2/10 to Light. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Although if he wasn't, I'd say he should be considered over Flash. His TvT has looked beatable for a while honestly, just his opponents love choking. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5570 Posts
On December 20 2010 21:39 Lightwip wrote: If Flash gets knocked out in OSL I think he deserves to be bumped a few spots. But getting knocked out in the Ro32 is kinda significant. A #1 shouldn't be knocked out that early. Jaedong has a good enough record this season, but he lost to the likes of Hydra, along with losses against Zero, Stork and Light(aka the 3 best opponents he played)... that would've been reason to bump him off #2 if not for Fanta fail. If JD keeps a good record this month then maybe he should get #1. The fact is, if Jaedong can show that he's not shaky in any MUs while Flash is beatable in 1, then who's more deserving of being called #1? Did you see the hydra game? I don't know why every one is talking about that game it was a 9-pool all-in against good defense, not much to talk about. Jaedong has to show that he can play well vs T though. If Jaedong makes it in the OSL he is ofc #1. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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