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Power Rank 12/01/2009 - Page 3

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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 30 2009 22:40 GMT
#41
hm. imo Fantasy should be a little higher up
going 2-1 vs Calm including a win in an ACE match should merit something higher than 9

Entries 4 , 5 , and 6 are in my opinion totally interchangable.
Both Stork, Effort and ZeRo are playing great starcraft
Stork : getting back in shape for a great OSL run
ZeRO : playing light's out in PL
Effort : being a beast in whatever he does

but imo ZeRO should be higher than both of them with his 9-1 record in PL
he is the #1 reason that the Stars are as high as they are
cw)minsean(ru
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
November 30 2009 22:42 GMT
#42
On December 01 2009 06:03 Djabanete wrote:
Whoa, WHOA, surely I'm not the only one shocked by Fantasy's placement? He

a) destroyed Hoejja, wasn't even close [W]
b) lost to Flash in TvT, but who doesn't [L]
c) beat Baby (didn't see that game) [W]
d) embarrassed Calm in the OSL [W]
e) lost a game to Calm in PL but didn't play badly at all [L]
f) walked all over Calm again in a lategame TvZ with sick micro and good multitask [W]

Basically, all month I haven't seen him play a bad game; he's 2-2 against other PR players; 2-0 against non-PR players; his bio vs Z has never looked better; and you say he's slipping? I just don't understand where you're coming from.

(edit: yeah I'm not the only one, and I got ninja'd hard)


I agree that he should be higher than Calm, but I think that's the correct placement of fantasy. Like everyone is saying, Calm is slumping. Going 2-1 against someone slumping that bad is not an accomplishment, its something everyone expects someone on the power ranks to be able to do. The only time he's played against someone higher up in the rankings than he is was that game against Flash, which he lost. He hasn't shown the dominance to move up the rankings, while others have played much better.
I think fantasy should be #9 and Calm either #10 or not on the PR at all.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 30 2009 23:03 GMT
#43
I would like BeSt in #10 instead of Kwanro - great PR otherwise
3 kings at the top is always good
:)
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 30 2009 23:37 GMT
#44
On December 01 2009 08:03 synapse wrote:
I would like BeSt in #10 instead of Kwanro - great PR otherwise
3 kings at the top is always good

isn't best out of both SL's?
while his PL play is getting better there's a difference between a "good" PL player and a "good" SL player

Or else HyuN would be all over this
cw)minsean(ru
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 30 2009 23:38 GMT
#45
I wonder how long we'll have to wait before we get a BoX between Flash and Jaedong.

Only then will we know who truely deserves 1 and who is 2.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 30 2009 23:39 GMT
#46
On December 01 2009 08:37 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 08:03 synapse wrote:
I would like BeSt in #10 instead of Kwanro - great PR otherwise
3 kings at the top is always good

isn't best out of both SL's?
while his PL play is getting better there's a difference between a "good" PL player and a "good" SL player

Or else HyuN would be all over this

Best is into the RO16 of the MSL.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
November 30 2009 23:43 GMT
#47
Good to see Sea here.
You misspelt recent, resent.
Awesome power rank. ;D
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
November 30 2009 23:44 GMT
#48
I am mixed about this PR. I like (Z)ZerO been higher or (T)Sea entering but in my view, instead of making big jumps (like (P)Bisu, (P)Stork, (T)fantasy, (Z)Kwanro) you should put here (P)Violet, (T)Really, (P)Kal and (Z)Shine. (in this order).

The PR is kinda flawed even with (Z)Jaedong, with him making incredibly many mistakes, or with (Z)Calm, who is unrecognazible... And (Z)EffOrt is at the lower limit too.
I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
November 30 2009 23:49 GMT
#49
Holy crap I just checked Flash's stats. He's a crazy little monster!
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
November 30 2009 23:50 GMT
#50
I've always felt great PL performances by players that aren't in any leagues are overrated.

Regardless of what the players might say, they want to advance in the individuals (especially since it's only R1 of proleague) and it's a LOT harder to prepare for both individuals and PL.

I think Sea's placement is about right but maybe even a little too high.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
December 01 2009 00:17 GMT
#51
I want to see Flash vs Jaedong Bo5 so bad it hurts sometimes
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
December 01 2009 00:26 GMT
#52
fantasy dropped to hard imo.
Bisu... ;-(
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 01 2009 00:40 GMT
#53
(Z)ZerO should be #2 imo
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 01 2009 00:41 GMT
#54
On December 01 2009 08:38 On_Slaught wrote:
I wonder how long we'll have to wait before we get a BoX between Flash and Jaedong.

Only then will we know who truely deserves 1 and who is 2.


I can't wait for this to happen... but check out the stats page if you are not sure who truly deserves spot 1 right now.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
December 01 2009 00:42 GMT
#55
Flash seems to regularly get on these insane runs, where he just stomps everything in his path. The poor boy can't keep it up though, I hope for him he gets a title this season.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 00:48:02
December 01 2009 00:43 GMT
#56
no mention of really for cbnc? he went 6-1 during november in PL, including sea's only loss
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2009 01:10 GMT
#57
Surprised Really and Movie were not mentioned.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2009 01:11 GMT
#58
On December 01 2009 08:37 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 08:03 synapse wrote:
I would like BeSt in #10 instead of Kwanro - great PR otherwise
3 kings at the top is always good

isn't best out of both SL's?
while his PL play is getting better there's a difference between a "good" PL player and a "good" SL player

Or else HyuN would be all over this


BeSt 2-0d his MSL group with Calm, Light, and fOrGG.

BeSt looks invincible in PvT and pretty strong in PvP. He should be above Kwanro i think as well.
RIP Aaliyah
overlordprime
Profile Joined November 2009
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 01:34:41
December 01 2009 01:34 GMT
#59
On December 01 2009 10:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Surprised (T)Really and (P)Movie were not mentioned.


Yeah I would have expected to see (P)Movie on CBNC at least, until the last two days. I think someone doped him and (P)Stork before the MSL matches...
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
December 01 2009 02:17 GMT
#60
I don't see the problem with dropping Calm off of the list even though he was number 3 last month. One time a number 1 was left off of the list in the next month's rank.

'Course that wasn't the same guy doing the list...
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