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cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
December 01 2009 02:43 GMT
#61
I really hope Stork's confidence isn't too affected by this recent string of losses. His last run was the definition of true S-class, and I wish for him to remain that way for much longer.

Anyway, I don't think Fantasy should be moved up, it's just Calm should be moved down lower than him. Also, Bisu at 3 is quite unconvincing for the same reasons others mentioned.

TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 01 2009 03:08 GMT
#62
Reminds me of when Bisu retained 3rd awhile ago in JWD's rank, despite his lack of games and dropping out of 1 league.
Remember Violet.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
December 01 2009 04:02 GMT
#63
What I don't get is why Stork is so high. I just watched his game vs Movie and it is awful in just about every way. (Ya he took down the natural fast but Stork screwed up multiple times after that)
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 01 2009 04:21 GMT
#64
On December 01 2009 13:02 wswordsmen wrote:
What I don't get is why Stork is so high. I just watched his game vs Movie and it is awful in just about every way. (Ya he took down the natural fast but Stork screwed up multiple times after that)


His play during the rest of the month was great. It wasn't even just that his record was strong, he played some amazingly strong games. I don't know if I agree with his ranking, but I would imagine that would be the justification.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
December 01 2009 05:08 GMT
#65
Not much to say about the rank itself that hasn't been said already, but good job getting these things out so fast, riptide! It's not even December 1st where I am...
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 01 2009 05:12 GMT
#66
KT needs to give violet 10 games in the next month so he can be 16-0 in proleague.
Jaedong :3
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 01 2009 05:55 GMT
#67
Decent rank. Can't argue about top spots.

But I have three objection:
1. Calm is too high. Should be at most 9. His play (except for the game against Fantasy on Tornado) is really bad.
2. Fantasy should be higher than Calm.
3. Violet for CBNC.

But except for that it is a decent PR
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
December 01 2009 07:54 GMT
#68
Cool PR

i agree with stork dropping due to his megafail 2 days in a row

i don't agree with fantasy's placement... guy is so good!
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 08:25:16
December 01 2009 08:24 GMT
#69
fantasy was marked too hard.

*runs away and cries*
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 01 2009 09:01 GMT
#70
Well fantasy's drop was more about other players playing really good then him playing bad .
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 01 2009 09:28 GMT
#71
Fantasy should be higher than Calm. This can only be explained by the TL Calm bias, imo. And I don't think it is obvious that Flash should have the #1 spot over JD. But that depends on how you value a WCG viktory. I want to add that if Flash is #1, then I think Zero should be higher too. Lastly, the only way to justify Bisu #3 is on old performances.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 01 2009 09:32 GMT
#72
It is very obvious that Flash should be No1. It's not only about his insane record, his play is just on another level right now.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
December 01 2009 09:42 GMT
#73
On December 01 2009 18:28 Elroi wrote:
Fantasy should be higher than Calm. This can only be explained by the TL Calm bias, imo. And I don't think it is obvious that Flash should have the #1 spot over JD. But that depends on how you value a WCG viktory. I want to add that if Flash is #1, then I think Zero should be higher too. Lastly, the only way to justify Bisu #3 is on old performances.


Wait so you are trying to say that Jaedong deserves #1 spot just because of WCG victory?
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 01 2009 10:49 GMT
#74
On December 01 2009 18:42 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 18:28 Elroi wrote:
Fantasy should be higher than Calm. This can only be explained by the TL Calm bias, imo. And I don't think it is obvious that Flash should have the #1 spot over JD. But that depends on how you value a WCG viktory. I want to add that if Flash is #1, then I think Zero should be higher too. Lastly, the only way to justify Bisu #3 is on old performances.


Wait so you are trying to say that Jaedong deserves #1 spot just because of WCG victory?


No, that is not what I "trying" to say. However I don't think the choise is obivious, I mean JD has had the most success in this month because he has acctually won something. But it depends on how you value WCG as I said. As I am quit new to TL I don't really know how the power rank works... I'm ofc okay with Flash being #1 because he is obviously a monster, but then I think that Zero should be higher because he has also been owning up proleague recently.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
December 01 2009 11:04 GMT
#75
Hey, Flash just won something too... R1 of Proleague.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 01 2009 11:09 GMT
#76
The No3 on the PR lost to Haksoo. XD
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
December 01 2009 11:15 GMT
#77
Just before i read this is there something about bisu and jaedong with a kespa like effect, they play like shit for a month and stay up in the top 5, flash can play just as bad and be dropped off compleatly
Anyway agree compleatly with no.1, if jaedong and bisu wernt so high this list would be spot on
Thanks riptide!
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 01 2009 11:18 GMT
#78
On December 01 2009 20:15 Scaramanga wrote:
Just before i read this is there something about bisu and jaedong with a kespa like effect, they play like shit for a month and stay up in the top 5, flash can play just as bad and be dropped off compleatly
Anyway agree compleatly with no.1, if jaedong and bisu wernt so high this list would be spot on
Thanks riptide!

Jaedong should definitely be that high. Bisu is somewhat arguable, but it's not completely wrong in any way.

Flash should've never been dropped off, though.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 01 2009 11:19 GMT
#79
On December 01 2009 20:15 Scaramanga wrote:
Just before i read this is there something about bisu and jaedong with a kespa like effect, they play like shit for a month and stay up in the top 5, flash can play just as bad and be dropped off compleatly
Anyway agree compleatly with no.1, if jaedong and bisu wernt so high this list would be spot on
Thanks riptide!


That's a totally unfair characterization.

Flash was dropped off the PR after a month in which his only achievements were a gold in gom and the highest number of PL wins for the season.

Jaedong won over 4 games total this past month. It's a totally different situation.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
December 01 2009 11:28 GMT
#80
What a lovely throne our #1 is sitting on right now.

[image loading]


This is ridiculous. Only two people (Bisu and Jaedong) are within 100 points of him. He's also rapidly approaching the 2300 mark in vT, which has never been broken before.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
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