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Power Rank 09/01/2009 - Page 6

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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-01 04:16:16
September 01 2009 04:10 GMT
#101
On September 01 2009 13:06 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2009 12:21 o[twist] wrote:
you guys are right about the fantasy hate but on the other hand i'm not really sure who i favor fantasy over in a bo5 right now on the list. kwanro and iris... but then...


The only people on the PR who I would say have an advantage over (T)fantasy in a Bo5 are...(Z)Jaedong and (T)Flash for sure, maybe (P)Bisu and (P)Stork. I'd bet Fantasy over anyone else on the PR, including (Z)Calm.


i'm not saying i'd put a lot of money on it but i'd take that bet with bisu, stork, and calm. edit: maybe yarnc
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
September 01 2009 04:23 GMT
#102
awesome stuff, as much so as the PR.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
September 01 2009 04:42 GMT
#103
awesome read
i dig all the stork jokes hahaha
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-01 04:44:54
September 01 2009 04:44 GMT
#104
fantasy's cute builds are finally giving in. he shouldn't be in number 2. and stork over kwanro always. =)

and even though yarnc played pretty bad in osl, it was jvz, what can he do?
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
September 01 2009 04:44 GMT
#105
A power rank actually comes out on the first of a month, impressive!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7813 Posts
September 01 2009 04:53 GMT
#106
Really cool rank. Glad to have a new writer although it's also sad to see JWD go! .
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
September 01 2009 04:57 GMT
#107
The Fantasy write up was a over embellished mockery of the days events and it made me sick to my stomach, beyond that, excellent write up, gl riptide
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
September 01 2009 04:59 GMT
#108
BeeSuit phael
but still, he's gonna be fine
JD is still tearing away in the BroodWar scene as always.............
SlayerS_BoxeR FTW ///// Long live the Emperor
loupouk
Profile Joined May 2003
France105 Posts
September 01 2009 05:02 GMT
#109
Am i the only one who think calm deserves 1st spot ?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8554 Posts
September 01 2009 05:07 GMT
#110
Yes.
Was that rhetorical?
Jaedong
win8282
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)454 Posts
September 01 2009 05:31 GMT
#111
seriously, Hyuk shoulda been the #10 this month, not Effort. Effort lost just about every big game this month. And no, blizzcon isn't a big event
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-01 05:53:47
September 01 2009 05:37 GMT
#112
You say it's not about medals. So looking at his performance, fantasy has lost 6 out of his last 10 games (with 2 wins v an amateur). It seems the only basis for Fantasy at 2 is his PL performance, from where he has done nothing but go down-hill since then (which contradicts the non-medals things). He barely beats Kal and gets spanked by fantasy in the worst kind of way.

If anything, PL should get the least amount of weight considering it's a team event (he didn't get all the wins himself) and considering the other factors (such as Jaedong having to prepare for multiple matchups on multiple maps and preparing for aces) while Fantasy just prepped to snipe Jaedong basically. When they were actually matched up in a head-to-head battle he got spanked by jaedong in another bo5.

Fact is, Fantasy shouldn't be number 2 based upon his performance or even your own standards. If you HAVE to have a skt player at number 2, noone would of complained about Bisu. At least that would of made sense.

Edit: BTW, out of fariness should point out I appreciate the work rip is putting into this and think the list was well-written, regardless of the one mistake mentioned above .
Scorn
Profile Joined May 2009
United States14 Posts
September 01 2009 05:56 GMT
#113
Of course, he didn't stop there. Rolling Hiya as expected, he built on his day one victory over his Zerg rival to deliver in the day two ace match what can only be described as a stellar performance. Showing strategy, timing and micro that has been described as Boxer-esque, the young T1 Terran went crazy on the crazy Zerg, and emerged from the booth carrying not only himself, but his entire team.


Perhaps the strategy was Boxer-esque because Boxer created it? As Fantasy himself said (if I'm remembering his interview right) many Terrans could have piloted that build to success.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-01 06:18:13
September 01 2009 06:17 GMT
#114
On September 01 2009 14:37 On_Slaught wrote:
Edit: BTW, out of fariness should point out I appreciate the work rip is putting into this and think the list was well-written, regardless of the one mistake mentioned above .

that's a mistake in your opinion, and everyone has different opinions, so...?
I think that fantasy#2 is accurate, and if anyone else could've been #2, that's Calm, not Bisu.
riptide has a great style of writing, and I enjoy it , although JWD's style with links was very helpful.
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11069 Posts
September 01 2009 07:41 GMT
#115
"Looking ahead, it's worthwhile to speculate that September could be an exciting month for Stork as we hear his Warlock is nearing Lvl 80, and the offseason is no doubt giving him plenty of time to raid with his guild."

That was just cruel. ._.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
September 01 2009 07:48 GMT
#116
On September 01 2009 14:31 win8282 wrote:
seriously, Hyuk shoulda been the #10 this month, not Effort. Effort lost just about every big game this month. And no, blizzcon isn't a big event


What come on - why are we going nuts over STX Masters? Teams clearly didn't take it seriously and as last year (Hyuk, Frozean) showed, it's absolutely meaningless as an indicator for future success.

I do think Hyuk is better now than before, but that's not saying much. I'd rather the 10th spot be given to a rising star who has already proven his mettle than to some guy who won a couple PL games (huge, I agree) and then a lot of meaningless STX masters games.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 01 2009 07:52 GMT
#117
If Bisu had been sent instead of Fantasy against JD in proleague finals, the terran wouldn't even be close to top 5, no matter what the result of those games xD
Revolutionist fan
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
September 01 2009 07:57 GMT
#118
Switch Bisu with Fantasy and that would be perfect (imo)

But close anyways

FINALLY! A PR I AGREE WITH!
dats racist
zerotol
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium508 Posts
September 01 2009 08:03 GMT
#119
Fantasy on #2 is ridiculous since he hasnt won anything since proleague.
Calms win should put him #2 and effort should be a lot higher. He won a tournament now didnt he?
Now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10780 Posts
September 01 2009 08:07 GMT
#120
In General i agree with this PR.

Fantasy is a little weird.
Yes, he was awesome in the Proleague finals... But well... Proleague finals are not BO5's. He showed brilliance in 1 game and cheese in the other.
I sometimes get the feeling that Fantasy was sent to the Superace-Match over Bisu because Terran is more capable of cheesing than Protoss (and that oov/boxer play Terran).

If we look at the OSL Final series and completely disregard that he did not choke in the Proleague final... After such a series (losing to a 4 pool that he already defended, losing to a 9 pool cause of a risky/stupid build in the final game of an individual league)... People would say that Fantasy isn't champion material.

Seriously, if Yarnc would have won game 1 in his series against Jaedong and then get beaten 3 times in a row just like he did, he would have looked exactly like fantasy in the semis. Jaedong slaughtered Fantasy after game 1 and probably delivered the sweetest revenge for beating him with cheese possible .

I can't imagine Bisu getting slaughtered that way by Jaedong, I don't like Bisu but I just don't see him getting slaughtered in such a way.


Calm... Has only played ZvZ. But can you hold this against him? He had a very strong season. He was the second or third best Zerg in the proleuge (didn't check that back, I hope I remember that correct). He's beaten the 2 other Zergs that were held over him.
I don't know, I don't like it when you denie people a place on the PR because they played only one Matchup which wasn't their fault at all.

Question: Where would Calm be on the PR if he beat Iris in the finals instead of Kwanro? I smell a #2.



Oh, one more thing, I liked your writing aside from one thing:
We haven't seen this combination of panache, charisma and pure, unadulterated guts in a while, and for bringing it to our screens this August.


I have seriously no idea how anyone could say something like this about Fantasy. He more looks like his *masters* puppet than a charismatic player. Atleast to me, and probably a majority of the non SKT1 fans . But well... It's not hard to be charismatic as a SC/BW Progamer, the competition isn't exactly staggering .
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