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On September 01 2009 22:19 MutaDoom wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2009 01:23 Geo.Rion wrote:wow, a PR on first, and JD on the first rank. I could get used to this Oh, and i love you riptide Forget what several people are whining about. Apparently some people forgot that SPL finals are the biggest stage in gaming. Much love, riptide Apparently some people forgot it's BO1.
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For me, this time noone deserved #1. JD failed hard in PL finals and got beaten by Calm. Bisu threw away win vs Iris. Fantasy... survived critical Jaedong's 5pool and then collapsed. Actually, Calm was the most consistent player this month, but since he had only MSL to play, this is not enough for first spot.
Also, I wouldn't rank Hyuk lower than 9th spot.
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well.... i personally think calm showed a stronger month than fantasy. fantasy had 1 game with a bad start and a brilliant finish and 1 game with a good execution of a superior build invited by someone else. besides that fantasy pretty much failed this month. with that risky rush jd gave him the opportunity to take an easy game and lead in their bo5, but fantasy blew it by a super-stupid mistake. seriously, when i watched that game live i was like "hmm... he really should keep some scvs close to the bunker, just in case. if he survives this he´s got it in the bag, no matter what. so why go risky?". after i had finished this thought i saw the lings streaming in from 2 different sides and was like "wtf" and "damn, i told u!" at once.
imho fantasy should even be #4, behind bisu. bisu´s loss to iris was by a razor-thin margin and besides this, he didnt show any real weakness this month. what really bites him in the ass for this months PR is that he is the superior player on an overstacked, superior team. he didnt have an opportunity to show his skills on the biggest stage, the pl grand finals, because his team was so strong that they didnt even need him. is bisu to blame for being used as their teams "end boss" and for their opponent not even making it to the "end boss"? that the skt coach decided to send fantasy on neo medusa and bisu on destination, although medusa is bisus playground and destination is t>>z-favoured, clearly shows who is the more reliable and clutch player. in fact i would credit 5-10% of fantasys bunker rush win over jd to fantasy knowing that even if he fails there is still an equally strong, if not even stronger, teammate to finish the series.
to me its obvious that the PR should look like this:
1. Jaedong 2. Calm 3. Bisu 4. Fantasy 5. Flash
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1.bisu 2.fantasy 3.jaedong 4.calm 5.flash 6.kwanro 7.iris 8.hyuk 9.stork 10.effort
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On September 01 2009 22:26 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2009 22:19 MutaDoom wrote:On September 01 2009 01:23 Geo.Rion wrote:wow, a PR on first, and JD on the first rank. I could get used to this Oh, and i love you riptide Forget what several people are whining about. Apparently some people forgot that SPL finals are the biggest stage in gaming. Much love, riptide Apparently some people forgot it's BO1. Still Fantasy went 3-0 at PL finals. and it was 3-3 vs Jaedong last month and two victories vs him at the biggest stage.
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On September 01 2009 23:54 Piste wrote: 1.bisu 2.fantasy 3.jaedong 4.calm 5.flash 6.kwanro 7.iris 8.hyuk 9.stork 10.effort people REALLY need to stop imagining that Hyuk deserves to be on this PR at all, let alone above #10. in STX masters, Oz didn't even use BackHo, HiYa or Lomo, let alone Jaedong, T1 relied on their powerful trio of Hyuk, S2 and Mong... what more do people need to show them that no one cares about STX Masters?
CBNC is clearly where Hyuk belongs for this month. 1 game from Jaedong and an all kill in the B-team league are a step in the right direction, but are not nearly enough to convince me that Hyuk will ever be more than a mediocre Zerg with a few good days in the office this month.
And lol @ no Yarnc. 2nd in the OSL is a big accomplishment no matter how you slice it. Not putting him in top 10 would be a disservice to the PR.
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On September 01 2009 23:58 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2009 22:26 Shikyo wrote:On September 01 2009 22:19 MutaDoom wrote:On September 01 2009 01:23 Geo.Rion wrote:wow, a PR on first, and JD on the first rank. I could get used to this Oh, and i love you riptide Forget what several people are whining about. Apparently some people forgot that SPL finals are the biggest stage in gaming. Much love, riptide Apparently some people forgot it's BO1. Still Fantasy went 3-0 at PL finals. and it was 3-3 vs Jaedong last month and two victories vs him at the biggest stage. Compare his record to Calm's. Especially against Jaedong, if you use that as your primary reasoning.
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On September 01 2009 23:54 Piste wrote: 1.bisu 2.fantasy 3.jaedong 4.calm 5.flash 6.kwanro 7.iris 8.hyuk 9.stork 10.effort
I actually laughed out loud in the middle of class.
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Totally unrelated to this month's PR, sort of, but I was scrolling through old PRs and found this gem:
"After his uninspired performances against GGPlay and Stork, one might have thought that Flash was nothing but hype. I, for one, don’t think much of his late-game management—or even his mid-game management. But given Flash’s age and the fact that he just cruised into both Starleagues, he deserves a low slot in the Power Rank." - 2007/08
Amazing how things change.
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On September 02 2009 02:11 Musoeun wrote: Totally unrelated to this month's PR, sort of, but I was scrolling through old PRs and found this gem:
"After his uninspired performances against GGPlay and Stork, one might have thought that Flash was nothing but hype. I, for one, don’t think much of his late-game management—or even his mid-game management. But given Flash’s age and the fact that he just cruised into both Starleagues, he deserves a low slot in the Power Rank." - 2007/08
Amazing how things change.
Well, there was a reason he was called the cheddar terran.... back in the day.
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good rankings, I miss the links to the games justifying the ranks though, add those in and it will be great
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great power rank riptide. I look forward to them
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riptide's articles are pretty good, with just a little too much cliche in them, but his power ranking and this was just worse. i didn't like the acronym "CBNC" which is a phrase nobody really knew, and the power rank is whack man there are so many players there that are undeserving of their current PR position
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On September 02 2009 00:33 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2009 23:54 Piste wrote: 1.bisu 2.fantasy 3.jaedong 4.calm 5.flash 6.kwanro 7.iris 8.hyuk 9.stork 10.effort people REALLY need to stop imagining that Hyuk deserves to be on this PR at all, let alone above #10. in STX masters, Oz didn't even use BackHo, HiYa or Lomo, let alone Jaedong, T1 relied on their powerful trio of Hyuk, S2 and Mong... what more do people need to show them that no one cares about STX Masters? CBNC is clearly where Hyuk belongs for this month. 1 game from Jaedong and an all kill in the B-team league are a step in the right direction, but are not nearly enough to convince me that Hyuk will ever be more than a mediocre Zerg with a few good days in the office this month. And lol @ no Yarnc. 2nd in the OSL is a big accomplishment no matter how you slice it. Not putting him in top 10 would be a disservice to the PR.
Well stx did send out their star lineup (besides calm, but he was preparing for msl finals) hyuk shouldn't have gotten past hwasin, never mind an all-kill. But winning in the stx finals doesn't make him close to being worthy of effort's spot.
On September 02 2009 04:28 Nal_rAwr wrote: riptide's articles are pretty good, with just a little too much cliche in them, but his power ranking and this was just worse. i didn't like the acronym "CBNC" which is a phrase nobody really knew, and the power rank is whack man there are so many players there that are undeserving of their current PR position
lolololol seriously? Close but no cigar has been used since fakesteve wrote the power rank and maybe even earlier. Don't just type out whatever comes to your mind and then press post. At least take the effort to pick out each choice that you disagree with and make a solid argument for why you think riptide is wrong. He won't change the rank for you, but he will take your arguments into consideration and reply. "the power rank is whack man there are so many players there that are undeserving of their current PR position" isn't really a great argument.
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On September 02 2009 02:11 Musoeun wrote: Totally unrelated to this month's PR, sort of, but I was scrolling through old PRs and found this gem:
"After his uninspired performances against GGPlay and Stork, one might have thought that Flash was nothing but hype. I, for one, don’t think much of his late-game management—or even his mid-game management. But given Flash’s age and the fact that he just cruised into both Starleagues, he deserves a low slot in the Power Rank." - 2007/08
Amazing how things change.
There are some classics in the PR. For instance, amazingly enough Jangbi made a PR before Stork (not saying it was wrong for this to happen, just surprising), and some other things you wouldn't expect.
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why are there always fewer protosses on the top ranks
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On September 02 2009 02:11 Musoeun wrote: Totally unrelated to this month's PR, sort of, but I was scrolling through old PRs and found this gem:
"After his uninspired performances against GGPlay and Stork, one might have thought that Flash was nothing but hype. I, for one, don’t think much of his late-game management—or even his mid-game management. But given Flash’s age and the fact that he just cruised into both Starleagues, he deserves a low slot in the Power Rank." - 2007/08
Amazing how things change.
Haha, yeah, I was just looking at that yesterday. Crazy how much that's changed. Now Flash pretty much turns on God-mode if the opponent (or a factory rally point lolololololo) doesn't cripple him in the early/early-mid game.
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On September 02 2009 06:32 Raz0r wrote: why are there always fewer protosses on the top ranks
12/14/08 Power Rank:
1. Protoss 2. Protoss 3. Terran 4. Protoss 5. Protoss 6. Terran 7. Protoss 8. Zerg 9. Protoss 10. Terran
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On September 02 2009 06:32 Raz0r wrote: why are there always fewer protosses on the top ranks
Here's all the power ranks with protoss making up half or more (5-6) of the PR:
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Combine that with the amount of PRs where protoss takes up 3-4 of the rank and you'll find that the majority of the PRs have a fair to unfair representation of protoss. The only race that really dominates PR, outside of the six dragons/taekbang era, is Terran and that's because there's ALWAYS been a heavy number of good to great terrans.
Hell I think Zerg is the most unrepresented. Except for very recently, the only Zergs who've been on the PRs were Jaedong and the Twins, and even the Twins weren't around very much. I think July made a couple guest appearances during his third OSL run.
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