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ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 03 2009 03:31 GMT
#41
Awesome writeup, the era of Zergs might soon be rising...ZvZ Osl final or Fantasy vs Jaedong rematch XD
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
August 03 2009 04:24 GMT
#42
WEEK OF JAEDONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God I love that guy! JD Hwaiting!
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saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 03 2009 04:33 GMT
#43
I want Fantasy v Type-B finals.

I root for both. One might be a royal roader. One is my favourite player.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 03 2009 04:40 GMT
#44
I think it should be noted that Jaedong pulled off the exact same strategy against Canata the day before in MSL. Personally, I think that type-b plagarized Jaedong for his 3rd game, but whatever

Nice writeup Plexa :D
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
August 03 2009 07:03 GMT
#45
I want to defeat Jaedong and make everyone fearful of Sk Telecom Terrans players.

lol, a bit too late for that buddy. They've been feared since the dawn of professional starcraft.
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
August 03 2009 08:51 GMT
#46
karma has a way of fucking people who say shit like "i will make this the week of jaedong"

if jaedong actually performs against SKT1 and fantasy then he's defied the law of humility
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QStarcraftQ
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany11 Posts
August 03 2009 09:09 GMT
#47
veeeeeeeeeery nice :D
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
August 03 2009 10:15 GMT
#48
Thanks for the writeup. I feel so sorry for Leta.
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 03 2009 12:29 GMT
#49
Jaedong vs FanTaSy will be epic.
Jaedong feels the gold mouse...
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 03 2009 13:09 GMT
#50
Week of jaedong what what
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
caradepitbull
Profile Joined June 2008
Peru9 Posts
August 03 2009 17:26 GMT
#51
*O*
nose de que hablan
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
August 03 2009 18:36 GMT
#52
nice writeup! thanks
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
August 03 2009 19:16 GMT
#53
Damnnn Leta... don't become the next Sea[Shield] =.=
A Jaedong vs Fantasy final would be really exciting.
Fantasy hungry for his first OSL [After getting second twice] and Jaedong in his usual rape everyone mode
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 21:16:30
August 03 2009 21:01 GMT
#54
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.

Also, I think that Leta's loss to type-b can be best explained by the fact that they are teammates. Leta practiced and refined his 2port wraith against his teammates, especially type-b and yellow[arnc] and I'm sure that they are both really good against it by now. Leta's TvZ was the best because even though he always did 2port wraith and people prepared specifically for his build, he still did it and won with his micro, macro and management (except against Jaedong on Outsider). If he wasn't playing against a teammate, I'm sure he could have busted out the 2port wraiths at least once and done a good job, or at least force the zerg to go for a fast hydra den.
Sullifam
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 03 2009 21:22 GMT
#55
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.

Also, I think that Leta's loss to type-b can be best explained by the fact that they are teammates. Leta practiced and refined his 2port wraith against his teammates, especially type-b and yellow[arnc] and I'm sure that they are both really good against it by now. Leta's TvZ was the best because even though he always did 2port wraith and people prepared specifically for his build, he still did it and won with his micro, macro and management (except against Jaedong on Outsider). If he wasn't playing against a teammate, I'm sure he could have busted out the 2port wraiths at least once and done a good job, or at least force the zerg to go for a fast hydra den.


Its jaedong. Bo advantages mean nothing. Losing 4 drones means nothing. Not going mutas means nothing.

Its all a win for the Tyrant
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
August 04 2009 00:00 GMT
#56
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.


I agree 100% with your statement about Jaedong, but including Effort in it too... Calm begs to differ.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 04 2009 00:38 GMT
#57
On August 04 2009 06:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.

Also, I think that Leta's loss to type-b can be best explained by the fact that they are teammates. Leta practiced and refined his 2port wraith against his teammates, especially type-b and yellow[arnc] and I'm sure that they are both really good against it by now. Leta's TvZ was the best because even though he always did 2port wraith and people prepared specifically for his build, he still did it and won with his micro, macro and management (except against Jaedong on Outsider). If he wasn't playing against a teammate, I'm sure he could have busted out the 2port wraiths at least once and done a good job, or at least force the zerg to go for a fast hydra den.


Its jaedong. Bo advantages mean nothing. Losing 4 drones means nothing. Not going mutas means nothing.

Its all a win for the Tyrant


Jaedong 12 hatched, Zero went for an overgaspool build with ling speed. Standard overgaspool depends on walling off a ramp with zerglings while grabbing a fast second hatchery inbase; the earlier gas allows 6 mutas to be hatched off of one geyser once the spire completes. Zero's getting ling speed delayed his hatchery and put him way way behind in larva than Jaedong, who abused that advantage once his own ling speed finished to break Zero's ramp, kill some drones, and force a sunken colony. Even though he got to spire, Zero's economy was stuck and there was no way he could build a second hatchery. All he could do was pump mutas off of one gas, which Jaedong safely countered with two spores at each of his bases, even building a sunken at his natural to be extra safe against zergling runbys. Once Jaedong's own spire completed and his two gas geysers were operational, Zero was dead.

So yes it was a build order/positional win. Zero chose an awful build, got cross positions which made it even worse, and Jaedong exploited his advantage perfectly.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
August 04 2009 00:41 GMT
#58
gogo type-b rangers.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 04 2009 05:21 GMT
#59
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that build orders dont matter in ZvZ, but when Jaedong is playing you can't get any more than an slight advantage from a build (unless you're Jaedong with the good build)
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 04 2009 06:36 GMT
#60
On August 03 2009 16:03 DoX.) wrote:
Show nested quote +
I want to defeat Jaedong and make everyone fearful of Sk Telecom Terrans players.

lol, a bit too late for that buddy. They've been feared since the dawn of professional starcraft.
lol, no they werent. Do you even know when SK was formed?
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