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Text byPlexa
August 2nd, 2009 05:25 GMT
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Thanks SilverskY!

Greetings TeamLiquid! You may be wondering why you're stuck with me instead of JWD this week. It's because he's on holiday for a week and a half, so I'll be here recapping the conclusion of the Round of 8 and previewing the semifinals. The latter will come out next week as there are no OSL/MSL games next week due to the Proleague finals, and whats the point in previewing something over a week in advance?

The second night of the Round of 8 is the biggest night in the entire OSL. While that statement is very vague, it is true on a number of counts;
  • There are potentially 8 games to be played in one night - more than any other regular round
  • It is the make or break day for many players
  • Winners receive seeds for the next OSL making their lives easier
  • OSL usually goes on tour for this round

Now I'm fairly sure the last one didn't happen this season, but nevertheless this is a hugely important night for so many people. In case you've forgotten here is what things looked like at the conclusion of last week;
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] 1-0 (T)go.go
(Z)type-b 1-0 (T)Leta
(T)fantasy 1-0 (T)Canata
(Z)Jaedong 1-0 (Z)ZerO

It is said that in intra-team matches that Terran's are favored. The rationale behind this is that Zerg is incredibly style dependent while Terran's all more or less look the same. There are obvious exceptions to this, like when the Terran is a strategic player like UpMagic, but on the whole this rings true. Three notable examples would be Iris vs Savior from Shinhan 3, fOrGG vs Jaedong from Arena MSL and Iris vs Effort from GOM last week. Of course, maps had a little bit to do with it, but on the whole they just amplified the disadvantage.

This OSL has presented us something different. Yarnc and type-b both won over go.go and Leta respectively. While there are a few explanations for why Yarnc was able to beat go.go there are considerably less explanations for type-b being able to defeat Leta. Casting a thought back to Batoo I'm sure we'll all remember by.hero's OSL semifinal stint. Hero also advanced there by defeating a teammate, Hwasin. The similarities between hero and type-b in this regard are actually quite astounding.


Thanks fomos.kr for the image

Both managed to get where they are using a concept I like to call "Rookie Vigor". Every season we have newcomers to the OSL who outperform all expectations because they have literally come from nowhere. They are able to play miraculous games and keep winning over great opponents, but then inevitably lose the next season. It's not that they aren't great players, but rather that they are just not ready for consistent season play. Yarnc for instance had his rookie vigor spur in Shinhan 1 where we blew us all away with amazing Mutalisk control and brilliant strategies, but he just wasn't ready for it all. However, now he is one of the premier Zergs in the world - his time wasn't 2006, it is today in 2009.

In case you are wondering, Rookie Vigor comes from the biological concept of Hybrid Vigor where some hybrid plants outperform the pure breeds but often are incapable of reproducing for one reason or another.

Back to the topic at hand... type-b isn't out of the woods yet - he still needs to take one more game of Leta to advance. While he's got his rookie vigor carrying him at the moment; will it be enough to take out Leta? Well let's plunge in and take a look at the games that took place on Friday...

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YellOw[ArnC] vs go.go


Game 2

This game took an interesting turn when go.go stole Yarnc's gas. Yarnc had to make a decision - get a late gas or go 3 hatch. He decided to go three hatch, and it was quite clear that he had not practiced it in a while. Yarnc tried to stall go.go with lings, but they were taken care of really easily. In wasting these larvae Yarnc was putting himself further and further behind. When go.go moved out, Yarnc had minimal lings remaining and no defense what so ever. Yarnc managed to get some last minute defenses on line just in time to save him - but not before he has to defend with drones (and lost 6 of them). With so many wasted Larvae, and Marine range completed, Yarnc couldn't get his Mutalisks to do any kind of real damage. Indeed, they were stuck defending a lot of the time. Eventually, go.go ran over Yarnc after keeping the pressure high - Yarnc did make a game of it though, and props to him for doing so.

Game 3
go.go had this game practically won but he choked under pressure. Firstly, he gained such a massive advantage from killing one of Yarnc's overlords early on and quickly followed that up with a nice vult/rine attack which resulted in go.go having 2 vults in Yarnc's main. Here is where things unraveled. go.go's reinforcements never got inside the main because go.go didn't control them. He was suppose to have the rine draw fire from the sunk allowing the vulture to run by - but he didn't and he lost his 3rd vult needlessly. Then he lost his 4th in the same way. If those two vults had gotten inside Yarnc's main that game would have been over. Instead, go.go wasted his units and was left helpless as speedlings tore through his units, and then tore through his main.

(Z)YellOw[ArnC] 2-1 (T)go.go
YellOw[ArnC] advances to face the winner of type-b/Leta.

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Leta vs type-b


Game 2

This is great example of Leta at his best. Leta gets all kinds of credit for being a great player, but really, his greatness stems from his mind. At the moment we have Flash with rock solid mechanics, Fantasy with dazzling flair and control (<3 vultures) and Leta with his strategical brilliance. The game opened up with Leta pressuring type-b ala go.go vs Yarnc on Heartbreak. type-b handled it far better than Yarnc did though, he didn't waste lings and he used every last one to stop Leta's push. From there type-b was in an excellent position and harassed with his Mutalisks well. When he charged into Leta's natural with a huge number of Lurker/Ling the game looked to be his. Then Leta shows what he'd been up to - he had massed wraith off of three ports. With about 10~ Wraith in the sky he picked off all the lurkers and repelled type-b's assault. It wasn't long before Leta overpowered him with ease.

That Wraith switch was so brilliant, and showcases why Leta is a great Terran in this crazy age.

Game 3

This game showed that there's something in the water over at Hite (beer perhaps?). Type-b pulled out a brilliant strategy here on the fly (you can check out his interview, its at the bottom) and completely destroyed Leta. type-b got unlucky at the start when Leta fast CC'd and type-b's 9pool was sent cross position rather than to Leta giving Leta enough time to complete his wall in and be 100% safe from lings. type-b then switched it up from his original game plan, and went for a super fast speedless Lurker drop. Leta was in inches of discovering it, but type-b just managed to get the Lurker inside Leta's main. Once they got inside it was pretty much all over. Leta almost pulled out some dazzling Marine micro to save the day, but Leta isn't Boxer and the scans ran out before the Lurkers died.

Excellent game by type-b, and a thoroughly deserved win.

type-b 2-1 Leta
type-b advances to face YellOw[ArnC] in the semifinals.

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fantasy vs Canata


Game 2

There isn't much to say about this game. Fantasy was the superior player the entire game. Even from the builds he was 1 supply ahead, and he just compounded on this minuscule advantage throughout the rest of the game. At the end of the game Fantasy's economy was far superior and had a much more stable gas supply and was able to max long before Canata and take the game. Fantasy looks so good right now, and this game is a testament to that fact.

fantasy 2-0 Canata
fantasy advances to face the winner of Jaedong/Zero


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Jaedong vs Zero


Game 2

This basically was a build order win, but really, the builds didn't matter. Zero fought off Jaedong respectably but with a build order disadvantage there was no hope for him. Jaedong made some very clever moves with his lings and with spore colonies to defend his expo/main there was nothing Zero's 1 hatch muta could do. Jaedong built up enough gas to overwhelm Zero - and looked basically invincible while doing it.

Jaedong 2-0 Zero
Jaedong advances to face fantasy in the semifinals

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Jaedong and his adoring public - Image thanks to fomos.kr


Interviews thanks to ghostWriter

Yellow[arnc] (Park Myung Soo): "This is the best day of my life"
I will definitely win in the round of 4 to get to the finals.


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-This is the first time in your life that you've reached the round of 4.
▲I am really happy to make it into the round of 4 for the first time. It's been 5 years since I've debuted as a progamer and to only make it to the round of 4 after all this time is a bit pathetic. I am very thankful towards go.go, who congratulated me lightheartedly after the games were over. Today is the best day of my life.

-You won against a teammate
▲Before the game started, we agreed to congratulate the winner with a laughing face, no matter who it was. I'm very thankful that he kept our promise.

-How were today's games?
▲I tried to play a very safe style in game 2, but for the final game I decided to play a game that fits my style. Although I lost the 2nd game, I wasn't shocked. I lost the pace of the game as soon as I got gas rushed. The way he took control of the game almost felt like go.go was physically pulling my body away. He really played very well.

-You've already beaten teammates several times before.
▲Since I've done it several times, it didn't feel that unfamiliar. It felt inevitable. There have been times when I've won and times when I've lost, but whether I lose or win, the winner has to be cold-hearted.

-The 3rd game was very dangerous for you.
▲I thought I lost. If a Terran puts on that much pressure, you have no choice but to play a low-economy game so I tried to keep calm and maintain my composure. I think that go.go relaxed a little, thinking that he won the game already. That's why I was able to capture the vultures so easily.

-You have to meet another teammate in the round of 4.
▲Since both players are very good, no matter who comes up, it will not be an easy victory. Until now, I've only been able to win in best of 3 games but the next round is a best of 5 series. Since I haven't been able to get to a finals in my long career as a player, I will try my best to get there.

-It must have been difficult to practice.
▲Since the proleague just ended, my teammates are on vacation and there are no available partners within my team. Therefore, it was difficult but I was able to split my practice time with go.go, so that they wouldn't overlap.

-Do you have any last words?
▲I am very exhausted, so I want to rest now. Since I was able to get such a good result, I want to just rest during my vacation and recharge my batteries properly. Therefore, I will be able to prepare for the upcoming Starleague round of 4, WCG and next season's proleague. I hope my fans will trust in me and watch me as I play.
My mother called me yesterday because she was worried. I would like to thank her for thinking about me, but I hope she believes in me and won't worry anymore.

Source: Yellow[arnc]'s Interview
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Type-b(Moon Sung Jin): "I will defeat Myung Soo hyung (Yellow[arnc]) and make it to the finals."
I feel like I've passed a difficult turning point.

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-It is the first time you've reached the round of 4.
▲When I first made it to the round of 36, I did not have any expectations. At the introductory ceremony (?) I said that I wanted to win it all, but I didn't believe that I would be able to do it. I just thought to myself that I would win one game but now that I am going up to the round of 4, it feels a bit surreal. I expect that the excitement of reaching the round of 4 will hit me as I lay down in bed to go to sleep.

-It must have been difficult to play against a teammate.
▲Of course, it was difficult. The pressure from playing against a player like Leta (Shin Sang Moon) was harsh. But Leta didn't play the way I expected today. I didn't even think about the chance of a no barrack double command (13 or 14cc I guess) but that's what he chose. Rather than going bionic, he tries to play mind games, but today he went for a macro fight at his natural.

-What do you think of Leta's decision to go bionic?
▲It is probably due to the fact that we are on the same team. Since we are teammates, I know his strategies better than anyone else, so he went for a build that only partially utilizes his strategy.

-The practice schedule must have been difficult.
▲Since we were in the same practice room, Leta surrounded the area around him with partition walls while he practiced. Justin (Won Jong Suh) and Miracle (Park Dong Soo) on Samsung helped me practice and I feel that their help played a huge role in my victory.

-How were today's games?
▲I prepared really well for game 2. I practiced against every Terran strategy and had to neglect game 3. In game 3, Leta concentrated on his tech tree and to counter that strategy, I was going to play a drone heavy game, but since he went for bionic again, I was disconcerted. Therefore, I switched to a strategy that favors military strength so that I could break his attack his natural, but since I felt that it wouldn't work either, I decided to go for drop play.

-Now you have to play against Yellow[arnc] in the round of 4.
▲Although I was able to defeat Leta, Yellow[arnc] is like a huge barrier blocking my way forward. If you look at it differently, you could even consider yarnc to be an even more difficult player to beat than Leta. Ordinarily, I don't have that much confidence in Zerg vs Zerg games and in practice, I haven't been able to beat Yellow[arnc]. But since it's only one more series before the finals, I won't be able to give him the game. I will practice intensely (he said until I die, which is an idiom) and make sure that I will definitely reach the finals.

-If you had one word of comfort you can say to Leta, who lost painfully, what would it be?
▲I think that trying to comfort him would be even worse than his loss. Although I was able to show him an apologetic face for beating him last week, to do so today would be be difficult. All I can say is that I will practice enough for Leta's sake as well as mine own so that I can win in the finals. This is probably the only thing that would relieve Leta's mood.

-Do you have any last words?
▲I would like to thank the fans who are supporting a relatively unknown player and hopefully make it so that they won't think that it was a mistake for me to advance. I think that the most I can do is to simply show my best effort.

Source: Type-b's Interview

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Fantasy (Jung Myung Hoon): "This season, I will prepare like no one else has ever done."
If we win in the proleague, I will be able use that excitement and win the OSL as well.

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-You have been able to reach the round of 4, 3 seasons in a row
▲Strangely, I have been able to reach the round of 4 many times. However, I want to win it all for sure this time.

-You had to defeat your own teammate, Go In Kyu (Canata).
▲Although we practiced as teammates and saw each other play, it was okay for the most part. Probably because Canata has more tournaments to prepare for than me, it was easier for me to win.

-How was today's game?
▲At first, I was able to block his attack and it almost started to seem easy, but I started to feel a little pressure from that point. Therefore, I tried to go for a more defensive game. Since I felt so pressure, I let enough mana build up for 5 scans, but after I used all of them, I could see the entire map and felt like I could relax and play more safely.

-Now it feels like you will be able to prepare for the proleague more comfortably (at ease).
▲After I entered the team, both I and my team haven't had any victories yet. If we win in the proleague, the excitement will motivate me and I feel that I will be able to win in the finals.

-You will play against the winner of Jaedong vs Zero (Kim Myung Woon) in the round of 4.
▲Since I have lost in the finals (in the Batoo OSL) before and since In Kyu hyung (Canata) lost to him (in the Avalon MSL), I want to get my revenge on Jaedong. I want to defeat Jaedong and make everyone fearful of Sk Telecom Terrans players.

-Lately, there have been many games between teammates. Does it have any effect on the teams?
▲I don't feel like there have been any negative repercussions due to team kills (beating a teammate). Everyone is concentrating on the Proleague and since all the team kills are now over, we will be able to concentrate solely on the Proleague. Although we had to be separated because we were playing in individual leagues, now that it's over, we can all get together and prepare for the proleague together.

-In the past 2 seasons, your team was able to win in the semifinals. Do you have confidence in victory this time?
▲I really want to win this season. Our will to win is different from that of the other seasons. We will definitely win.

-Do you have any last words?
▲I want to thank the terran players that helped me practice and after the game, In Kyu hyung's (Canata) facial expression was bad so I will buy him something delicious to help lighten his mood.

Source: Fantasy's Interview

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Lee Jaedong: "If I get to the finals, I will definitely win it all."
I will win the proleague as well to make it all "The Week of Jaedong".

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-This is your second season in a row for making it to the round of 4.
▲I am very happy. Since I won last season, there was much pressure for this season as well. I tried to break the winner's curse and thankfully, there was a good result for me. I thought that all I had to do was to reach the round of 4 and I would win it all, so I am confident.

-Because you have games daily, it must have been difficult to practice.
▲I have been practicing for the proleague almost non-stop. I practiced for the individual league in my own time. After the official time for practicing was over, I cut into my sleep time to practice for my game. At my last fan meeting, I said that my goal was to definitely win and I tried hard to keep my promise. Because this week was a turning point, I was happy that I won.

-How were today's games?
▲I feel that I was able to win because I had a lot of luck. I was able to make a situation in which I definitely wouldn't lose and so I even made a sunken to stay on the safe side.

-Now you have to participate in the proleague playoffs.
▲Tomorrow is the day where all our efforts for an entire year come to fruition. Therefore, the desire to win is huge. I practiced much more for tomorrow's games than I did for today's or yesterday's games. Although I was able to advance in both individual leagues, if we lose in the proleague, I will be heartbroken. Since we prepared very well, I believe that we will be able to have a good result tomorrow.

-You have to face Jung Myung Hoon (Fantasy) in the round of 4.
▲Since I have defeated him in the finals last time, I'm sure that Fantasy will prepare for this series with gritted teeth. But I will also practice no less than he will and make sure that I'm ready. Since I believed that all I had to do to win it all was to reach the round of 4, I will entrust everything to that confidence.

-If you win this time, you will be able to get a Golden Mouse.
▲I definitely covet that prize. Although I am very greedy for it, I am trying not to think about it. I will just consider the Golden Mouse as something that just naturally follows after I win, so that I can concentrate wholly on winning.

-Do you have any last words?
▲The fans have been very worried about me. Since I have been playing many games in the proleague, they worried that I might carelessly leave out the individual leagues but since I have advanced, I will show my good form in the round of 4. Since the very important proleague is left, I will make this week the "Week of Jaedong".

Source: Jaedong's Interview


So there you have it, the two semifinals are Yarnc vs type-b and Fantasy vs Jaedong. There is so much raw potential and excitement in these two matches it's ridiculous. Okay, well, most of you probably can't see it yet since the prospect of a ZvZ finals sounds rather dull - but I assure you, this is going to be an historic OSL one way or another. The semifinals aren't until next week since Proleague finals have halted MSL/OSL games so the players can better prepare. But then we have both semifinals in one week - and I'll be here to preview them both right before JWD gets back .

Hope you enjoyed it!

Plexa
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RaGe
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Belgium9947 Posts
August 02 2009 13:10 GMT
#2
title of canata vs fantasy needs to be fixed
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Australia3316 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 13:14:10
August 02 2009 13:13 GMT
#3
Very nice summary thanks a lot Plexa!!

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Velthice
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United States10 Posts
August 02 2009 13:19 GMT
#4
Great write up. The J in jaedong's name is missing in fantasy's interview.

Jaedong all the way!
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Philippines348 Posts
August 02 2009 13:21 GMT
#5
Jaedong should be able to win over fantasy. Hopefully, he could practice really well for OSL.
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
August 02 2009 13:21 GMT
#6
If we get Yarnc vs Jaedong AND Calm vs Kwanro, I'll be so pissed. I could handle one ZvZ final, but definitely not two.
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Denmark3900 Posts
August 02 2009 13:21 GMT
#7
The TL article sweatshop is more productive than ever.

Nice read.
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United States3127 Posts
August 02 2009 13:27 GMT
#8
This game took an interesting turn when go.go stole Yarnc's gas. Yarnc had to make a decision - get a late as or go 3 hatch...


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Last Edited: 2009-08-02 13:34:44
August 02 2009 13:33 GMT
#9
yarnc looks malnourished and type-b looks gay imo o.o
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Korea (South)454 Posts
August 02 2009 13:45 GMT
#10
just wanted to point out a typo on the 2nd sentence of the writeup. We're not 'suck' with you Plexa ^^.

anyways, great writeup. JD vs Fantasy should be epic. Too bad only HBR is mech-able (unless I'm wrong, since I don't know if RoK or Holy World are ling-tight-wallable).
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Norway1004 Posts
August 02 2009 13:48 GMT
#11
Great article Plexa reminds me of how much I love reading your blogs ^___^

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Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 02 2009 13:59 GMT
#12
T_T this keyboard isn't very nice
my r, t s, m and 9 keys don't function very well
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United States2717 Posts
August 02 2009 14:12 GMT
#13
thanks for the great write-up!!


-Because you have games daily, it must have been difficult to practice.
▲I have been practicing for the proleague almost non-stop. I practiced for the individual league in my own time. After the official time for practicing was over, I cut into my sleep time to practice for my game. At my last fan meeting, I said that my goal was to definitely win and I tried hard to keep my promise. Because this week was a turning point, I was happy that I won.


this is crazy! no wonder he looked so tired, it is unbelievable how much jaedong prepares.
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Sweden712 Posts
August 02 2009 14:22 GMT
#14
Id think that by now Fantasy had learnt to cut his fingernails.
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Denmark714 Posts
August 02 2009 14:40 GMT
#15
great writeup ! Thanks a lot.
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United States476 Posts
August 02 2009 14:47 GMT
#16
hahaha "the week of the jaedong"
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United States12607 Posts
August 02 2009 15:00 GMT
#17
Thanks so much for covering for me Plexa...this writeup will be a tough act to follow when I return!!
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Canada4408 Posts
August 02 2009 16:27 GMT
#18
Very nice writeup!

I loved Type-B's comment about not comforting Leta, thanks for translations too!
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United States2332 Posts
August 02 2009 16:47 GMT
#19
great write-up!!
lmao the week of jaedong
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Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 02 2009 17:08 GMT
#20
As much as I love Jaedong and want him to get his golden mouse, Its Fantasy's turn to get his trophy. He has been sooo good and has got sooo close to the last 2 OSL (both times lost 2-3), that I will be rooting for fantasy this time.

thanks for the write up!
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Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
August 02 2009 17:40 GMT
#21
Great write-up, interviews were worth of gold as always. (I like reading those a lot)
Thank you Plexa and ghostWriter.
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 02 2009 18:04 GMT
#22
JD vs Fantasy is the real finals (again). The only thing is, Fantasy has not had a lot of TvZ games lately to speak of so its a tough call. If had to pick anyone to knock JD out of the OSL it'd be Fantasy, he is 3-4 against him.
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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
August 02 2009 19:17 GMT
#23
I honestly think Yarnc stands a chance in the finals if Fantasy beats Jaedong
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 02 2009 19:19 GMT
#24
Thanks for the summary and recap Plexa!
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Profile Joined December 2008
United States198 Posts
August 02 2009 19:23 GMT
#25
On August 03 2009 04:17 GhostKorean wrote:
I honestly think Yarnc stands a chance in the finals if Fantasy beats Jaedong

For sure, yarnc has elite ZvT. Fantasy/Jaedong is going to be pretty exciting though.
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 19:27:39
August 02 2009 19:25 GMT
#26
I really hope Yarnc takes it all. Out of all the players in the finals, he's by far the most deserving of the title. As much as I love Jaedong, I hope he gets knocked out by Fantasy esp after the 3-2 in the Batoo OSL. Yarnc definitely has a chance against Fantasy if they face each other in the grand finals. GO YELLOW[ARNC]!!!! ^_^
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Tone_
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom554 Posts
August 02 2009 19:25 GMT
#27
Great writeup. Cheers!
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 19:46 GMT
#28
Yarnc vs Fantasy is the best possible final.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
August 02 2009 19:52 GMT
#29
Thanks for the recap and summary! I already read the interviews way before but still, it's refreshing to see an article to keep me updated! Thanks Plexa!!!

But here's what I believe as for as I know. The main deciding factor and the huge favorite to win this OSL lies in between Fantasy and Jaedong. No offense to Yarnc and type-b but pretty much, the winner of this OSL will lies in between those two.... I can just feel it....
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 02 2009 20:03 GMT
#30
The week of Jaedong indeed.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 02 2009 20:25 GMT
#31
Week of Jaedong! =O Man...Fantasys's gonna be a tough nut to crack in round of 4...
Jaedong :3
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 02 2009 20:43 GMT
#32
Jeez, half the ro8 OSL bracket was hite... yarnc, type-b, go.go, Leta. All 4 on that side of the bracket: Hite. I blame Stork for letting Type-B get this far and letting him upset teammates to get to the ro4/ maybe ro2.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 21:16:42
August 02 2009 21:15 GMT
#33
Thanks for all the great words.
The Week of Jaedong is Nigh.
Phantasy will be broken.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 02 2009 22:09 GMT
#34
I really hope Fantasy beats Jaedong. I mean normally I hope anyone beats Jaedong, but this isnt for the same reason. I think fantasy deserves to win an osl, and a zvz final will be terrible. So in the interest of Fantasy as well as entertainment, I hope he wins in a really close 3-2 series against Jaedong. A yarnc vs Fantasy final would be amazing anyways.
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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
August 02 2009 23:03 GMT
#35
Great writeup!
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 23:46:30
August 02 2009 23:46 GMT
#36

-Do you have any last words?
▲The fans have been very worried about me. Since I have been playing many games in the proleague, they worried that I might carelessly leave out the individual leagues but since I have advanced, I will show my good form in the round of 4. Since the very important proleague is left, I will make this week the "Week of Jaedong".


Oh sweet lord. May god have mercy on SKT1.
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 03 2009 00:51 GMT
#37
Nice read tx.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
August 03 2009 02:45 GMT
#38
With his loss against Type-B, it is now official. Leta is the new Sea[Shield], a player who does well in Proleague and comes far in individual leagues, but falls short near the end. To be fair, he did come farther then Sea ever has. However, now there is no more denying it. Leta is affected by the (T)Sea curse and it remains to be seen whether he will ever recover from it.

Although I am a big Jaedong fan, I have to agree that Yellow[arnac] vs. Fantasy would be the best case scenario at this point. Although finals upsets have happened in the past (Bisu vs. Savior), I just cannot imagine either Yellow or Type-B being able to match Jaedong in a Bo5 ZvZ series. So if Jaedong ends up defeating Fantasy, then this OSL is practically his. However, if Fantasy manages to defeat Jaedong, then this will either be a unique chance for Yellow to shine or a chance for Fantasy to defeat Jangbi in their King of Silver race.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
August 03 2009 02:59 GMT
#39
Kinda sad that Fantasy and Jaedong on one side. Or else we could have seen a Jaedong vs Fantasy finals, but now it'll be Fantasy vs type-b or Fantasy vs Yarnc :<

Great job Plexa
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 03 2009 03:13 GMT
#40
I'm really hoping Fantasy pulls through this time and makes the finals.

+ Show Spoiler +
But murphy's law is telling me that we're going to see a huge upset in type-b beating yarnc using teammate knowledge, fantasy failing horribly to JD, and then type-b choking and getting humiliated 0-3 vs JD.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 03 2009 03:31 GMT
#41
Awesome writeup, the era of Zergs might soon be rising...ZvZ Osl final or Fantasy vs Jaedong rematch XD
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
August 03 2009 04:24 GMT
#42
WEEK OF JAEDONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God I love that guy! JD Hwaiting!
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saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 03 2009 04:33 GMT
#43
I want Fantasy v Type-B finals.

I root for both. One might be a royal roader. One is my favourite player.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 03 2009 04:40 GMT
#44
I think it should be noted that Jaedong pulled off the exact same strategy against Canata the day before in MSL. Personally, I think that type-b plagarized Jaedong for his 3rd game, but whatever

Nice writeup Plexa :D
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
August 03 2009 07:03 GMT
#45
I want to defeat Jaedong and make everyone fearful of Sk Telecom Terrans players.

lol, a bit too late for that buddy. They've been feared since the dawn of professional starcraft.
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
August 03 2009 08:51 GMT
#46
karma has a way of fucking people who say shit like "i will make this the week of jaedong"

if jaedong actually performs against SKT1 and fantasy then he's defied the law of humility
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Profile Joined July 2009
Germany11 Posts
August 03 2009 09:09 GMT
#47
veeeeeeeeeery nice :D
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
August 03 2009 10:15 GMT
#48
Thanks for the writeup. I feel so sorry for Leta.
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 03 2009 12:29 GMT
#49
Jaedong vs FanTaSy will be epic.
Jaedong feels the gold mouse...
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Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 03 2009 13:09 GMT
#50
Week of jaedong what what
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Profile Joined June 2008
Peru9 Posts
August 03 2009 17:26 GMT
#51
*O*
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wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
August 03 2009 18:36 GMT
#52
nice writeup! thanks
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
August 03 2009 19:16 GMT
#53
Damnnn Leta... don't become the next Sea[Shield] =.=
A Jaedong vs Fantasy final would be really exciting.
Fantasy hungry for his first OSL [After getting second twice] and Jaedong in his usual rape everyone mode
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 21:16:30
August 03 2009 21:01 GMT
#54
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.

Also, I think that Leta's loss to type-b can be best explained by the fact that they are teammates. Leta practiced and refined his 2port wraith against his teammates, especially type-b and yellow[arnc] and I'm sure that they are both really good against it by now. Leta's TvZ was the best because even though he always did 2port wraith and people prepared specifically for his build, he still did it and won with his micro, macro and management (except against Jaedong on Outsider). If he wasn't playing against a teammate, I'm sure he could have busted out the 2port wraiths at least once and done a good job, or at least force the zerg to go for a fast hydra den.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 03 2009 21:22 GMT
#55
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.

Also, I think that Leta's loss to type-b can be best explained by the fact that they are teammates. Leta practiced and refined his 2port wraith against his teammates, especially type-b and yellow[arnc] and I'm sure that they are both really good against it by now. Leta's TvZ was the best because even though he always did 2port wraith and people prepared specifically for his build, he still did it and won with his micro, macro and management (except against Jaedong on Outsider). If he wasn't playing against a teammate, I'm sure he could have busted out the 2port wraiths at least once and done a good job, or at least force the zerg to go for a fast hydra den.


Its jaedong. Bo advantages mean nothing. Losing 4 drones means nothing. Not going mutas means nothing.

Its all a win for the Tyrant
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JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
August 04 2009 00:00 GMT
#56
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.


I agree 100% with your statement about Jaedong, but including Effort in it too... Calm begs to differ.
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 04 2009 00:38 GMT
#57
On August 04 2009 06:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.

Also, I think that Leta's loss to type-b can be best explained by the fact that they are teammates. Leta practiced and refined his 2port wraith against his teammates, especially type-b and yellow[arnc] and I'm sure that they are both really good against it by now. Leta's TvZ was the best because even though he always did 2port wraith and people prepared specifically for his build, he still did it and won with his micro, macro and management (except against Jaedong on Outsider). If he wasn't playing against a teammate, I'm sure he could have busted out the 2port wraiths at least once and done a good job, or at least force the zerg to go for a fast hydra den.


Its jaedong. Bo advantages mean nothing. Losing 4 drones means nothing. Not going mutas means nothing.

Its all a win for the Tyrant


Jaedong 12 hatched, Zero went for an overgaspool build with ling speed. Standard overgaspool depends on walling off a ramp with zerglings while grabbing a fast second hatchery inbase; the earlier gas allows 6 mutas to be hatched off of one geyser once the spire completes. Zero's getting ling speed delayed his hatchery and put him way way behind in larva than Jaedong, who abused that advantage once his own ling speed finished to break Zero's ramp, kill some drones, and force a sunken colony. Even though he got to spire, Zero's economy was stuck and there was no way he could build a second hatchery. All he could do was pump mutas off of one gas, which Jaedong safely countered with two spores at each of his bases, even building a sunken at his natural to be extra safe against zergling runbys. Once Jaedong's own spire completed and his two gas geysers were operational, Zero was dead.

So yes it was a build order/positional win. Zero chose an awful build, got cross positions which made it even worse, and Jaedong exploited his advantage perfectly.
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SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
August 04 2009 00:41 GMT
#58
gogo type-b rangers.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 04 2009 05:21 GMT
#59
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that build orders dont matter in ZvZ, but when Jaedong is playing you can't get any more than an slight advantage from a build (unless you're Jaedong with the good build)
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 04 2009 06:36 GMT
#60
On August 03 2009 16:03 DoX.) wrote:
Show nested quote +
I want to defeat Jaedong and make everyone fearful of Sk Telecom Terrans players.

lol, a bit too late for that buddy. They've been feared since the dawn of professional starcraft.
lol, no they werent. Do you even know when SK was formed?
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Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 04 2009 07:54 GMT
#61
rly great written, keep it up!
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MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
August 04 2009 12:02 GMT
#62
Week of Jaedong :O! Do the queen thing again plzz >8D
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 04 2009 13:43 GMT
#63
On August 04 2009 09:38 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 06:22 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 04 2009 06:01 ghostWriter wrote:
Was Jaedong vs Zero game 2 a build order win?
I thought it was a 9pool by zero and a 12hatch by jaedong, albeit with a very early gas by Zero. And I thought it was 9 pool > 12hatch > 12 pool > 9pool no? I thought Jaedong's win was due to the fact that they were cross-positions. Lately Jaedong and Effort have been pretty much making the build order inequalities seem obsolete though.

Also, I think that Leta's loss to type-b can be best explained by the fact that they are teammates. Leta practiced and refined his 2port wraith against his teammates, especially type-b and yellow[arnc] and I'm sure that they are both really good against it by now. Leta's TvZ was the best because even though he always did 2port wraith and people prepared specifically for his build, he still did it and won with his micro, macro and management (except against Jaedong on Outsider). If he wasn't playing against a teammate, I'm sure he could have busted out the 2port wraiths at least once and done a good job, or at least force the zerg to go for a fast hydra den.


Its jaedong. Bo advantages mean nothing. Losing 4 drones means nothing. Not going mutas means nothing.

Its all a win for the Tyrant


Jaedong 12 hatched, Zero went for an overgaspool build with ling speed. Standard overgaspool depends on walling off a ramp with zerglings while grabbing a fast second hatchery inbase; the earlier gas allows 6 mutas to be hatched off of one geyser once the spire completes. Zero's getting ling speed delayed his hatchery and put him way way behind in larva than Jaedong, who abused that advantage once his own ling speed finished to break Zero's ramp, kill some drones, and force a sunken colony. Even though he got to spire, Zero's economy was stuck and there was no way he could build a second hatchery. All he could do was pump mutas off of one gas, which Jaedong safely countered with two spores at each of his bases, even building a sunken at his natural to be extra safe against zergling runbys. Once Jaedong's own spire completed and his two gas geysers were operational, Zero was dead.

So yes it was a build order/positional win. Zero chose an awful build, got cross positions which made it even worse, and Jaedong exploited his advantage perfectly.


Oh, now that I think about it, you're totally right, it was an overgaspool. Thanks for the clarification! I was wondering why the pool/lings were so late. If he went standard 9pool, he would have gotten there in time to threaten the hatchery and force Jaedong's lings to guard at the ramp, correct?

On August 04 2009 14:21 Plexa wrote:
]I wouldn't go so far as to say that build orders dont matter in ZvZ, but when Jaedong is playing you can't get any more than an slight advantage from a build (unless you're Jaedong with the good build)


Yeah, that's why I said seem. The advantages are still there, but today's insane ling micro, thanks to the maps that promote ZvZ, does so much towards making the strategic imbalances seem surmountable.
Sullifam
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
August 04 2009 19:06 GMT
#64
Jaedong ftw again! You'll see, all of you, fantasy will get crushed again.
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 04 2009 20:33 GMT
#65
On August 04 2009 22:43 ghostWriter wrote:

Oh, now that I think about it, you're totally right, it was an overgaspool. Thanks for the clarification! I was wondering why the pool/lings were so late. If he went standard 9pool, he would have gotten there in time to threaten the hatchery and force Jaedong's lings to guard at the ramp, correct?



I think (not too certain) that if Zero had gone 9poolspeed, he would have had to guess correctly which base Jaedong was at. Zero opened at SW and sent his ov to NW, Jaedong at NE sending to SE, so Zero had a 50-50 chance of guessing Jaedong's location as his lings hatched. I think most progamers send their lings across the map in those situations, though, so his lings would have reached Jaedong's base in time to probably kill any or all of Jaedong's natural hatchery, initial lings, and some drones and put Jaedong way behind. Though with Jaedong you never really know

Yeah, ZvZ is probably the matchup with the most interesting metagame right now.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 04 2009 20:51 GMT
#66
On August 05 2009 05:33 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 22:43 ghostWriter wrote:

Oh, now that I think about it, you're totally right, it was an overgaspool. Thanks for the clarification! I was wondering why the pool/lings were so late. If he went standard 9pool, he would have gotten there in time to threaten the hatchery and force Jaedong's lings to guard at the ramp, correct?



I think (not too certain) that if Zero had gone 9poolspeed, he would have had to guess correctly which base Jaedong was at. Zero opened at SW and sent his ov to NW, Jaedong at NE sending to SE, so Zero had a 50-50 chance of guessing Jaedong's location as his lings hatched. I think most progamers send their lings across the map in those situations, though, so his lings would have reached Jaedong's base in time to probably kill any or all of Jaedong's natural hatchery, initial lings, and some drones and put Jaedong way behind. Though with Jaedong you never really know

Yeah, ZvZ is probably the matchup with the most interesting metagame right now.


Yeah, I wouldn't give the win right to Zero since it's Jaedong. I think that he would have sent lings across the map as well (sending one to the SE), since it's the farthest and therefore, takes the longest to get to (like type-b did against Leta on the same map, + Show Spoiler +
although he won his game
).
Sullifam
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Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
August 05 2009 00:20 GMT
#67
Thanks Plexa
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
August 05 2009 02:13 GMT
#68
good stuff
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Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
August 05 2009 03:04 GMT
#69
FanTaSy, going for third straight, OSL finals, and hopefully his first OSL win...
Jaedong, going for his third OSL win, becoming the third player to win 3 OSL's and second Zerg to do so...
It's so hard to root for either one...

YellOw[ArnC] vs Type-B is gonna be cool, too. Basically seeing which Zerg is better in the SPARKYZ house...
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GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
August 05 2009 08:01 GMT
#70
it's gonna be lecaf > skt1 and JD > all OR!!!!!!!! skt1 > lecaf and fantasy > all XD
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Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 05 2009 08:08 GMT
#71
lecaf is really hot atm!
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Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
August 05 2009 09:13 GMT
#72
So hot that they've become Hwaseung + Show Spoiler +
for like forever now


Hoping for Fantasy to magic a Fantasy week winning PL and his first OSL!
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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
August 05 2009 22:49 GMT
#73
JvZ is awesome
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Profile Joined August 2009
10 Posts
August 08 2009 01:14 GMT
#74
type-b for Bacchus win ~~
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