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[GOM] Put a little EffOrt Into It!

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[GOM] Put a little EffOrt Into It!

Text byTadzio
July 17th, 2009 23:00 GMT
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It turns out that beating (Z)Jaedong in a ZvZ series just takes a little (Z)EffOrt. Zang! In case you missed them, here are your results:



Results
Quarterfinals - Day 2
(T)Berserker vs (P)Tempest
Game 1
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Last week's recommended game began with Tempest placing a pylon before scouting. Iris blocked the early scout with a barracks-first opening and depot wall but clearly any rush he'd been planning was now spoiled. With the early arrival of Tempest's probe, Iris abandonned any rush build he was planning and quickly switched to a fast expand build. Tempest built a robotic's facility in the middle of the map to ease into reaver harass later. Both players naturals completed at the same time and Tempest used that timing for a pincher attack on Iris' natural, dropping a reaver and dragoon on one side of the natural while attacking Iris' front with three dragoons. The attack was a success but thanks to his beefy SCVs and single-marine bunker, Iris was able to prevent the attack from ending the game. Still, Iris lost a large number of SCVs + mining time and was most certainly behind. In an effort to take the pressure off himself for a moment, Iris dropped two tanks above Tempest's natural. The strategy was overwhelmingly successful, not because he got many probe kills, but because Tempest used all his units to defend, and Iris lost neither the dropship nor his two tanks.

Tempest chose to rush to Arbiters and was producing his first Arbiter as his third base was warping in. This early tech decision allowed Iris to catch up a bit in macro, and since Iris already had a starport+addon, he wasn't particularly behind in tech, either. Iris' early set-back was still affecting him by the time Tempest's first Arbiter was done, however, as he was 50 supply behind at that point.

He was catching up, though, and was only 40 supply behind when Tempest executed his first recall on top of Iris' main command center. The first recall did surprisingly little damage, killing a few SCVs and a couple supply depots before Iris could clear it out, but soon after Tempest launched a second recall. With this one, Tempest destroyed Iris' starport and science facility, setting the terran's tech behind. As some form of consolation, Iris was only 30 supply behind Tempest at the end of the second recall.

Tempest followed quickly with yet another attack, this time rushing uncloaked units into Iris' front lines. This proved to be a major blunder since Iris was only 13 supply behind afterwards.

Iris chose to push toward Tempest's northern expansions immediately after Tempest's blunder, and although Iris forfieted highground to Tempest's remaining forces, his well positioned Vultures protected his tanks from Zealots while the Tanks forced Tempest's Dragoons to withdrawal. As Tanks rained down fire upon one of Tempest's Nexuses, Tempest mounted a more coordinated defense, landing a stasis on the majority of Iris' attack force. However, by this point, the two players were even in supply, and Iris' reinforcements were able to protect his stasis'd units. With little in his way, Iris began a comeback by taking out his opponent's expansions, reducing Tempest to two mining bases (with the natural very close to empty). In a last ditch effort to recapture the momentum, Tempest recalls into Iris' factories. He destroyed one factory and an armory, though it wasn't enough.

When Iris finishes usurping the northern bases and threatens Tempest's newly created expansions to the south, Tempest concedes, his speedy tech and over aggression having cost him a massive advantage and the game.
Game 2
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Tempest warped in at 5 o'clock and Iris at 9. Iris walled in at his ramp in preperation for a fast expansion at 11 o'clock while Tempest went 1 gate cybernetics core (at 13 supply). before expanding himself. Iris gets a dropship as soon as he possibly can and drops two Vultures into Tempest's main. Although the drop was spotted, the speedy vultures manage to kill four probes before Tempest deals with them.

Iris drops three more Vultures into Tempest's main, but Tempest has some drop play in mind as well, and Zealot bombs two of Iris' five defending tanks. Simultaneously, Tempest launches an attack into Iris' natural with eleven Dragoons, able to take out two more tanks before Iris' SCVs and bunker drive the dragoons away. Iris continued to drop vultures with less and less success while Tempest took his fourth base and started to mass units in ernest.

In an effort to slow Tempest down, Iris dropped a tank and two vultures behind Tempest's expansion at 4 o'clock and then pushed out to take out Tempest's mineral only at 3 o'clock and then set up a contain outside Tempest's natural. Tempest was able to stage a beautiful flank, though and decimates Iris' army. Tempest capitalized on his advantage by sending wave after wave of protoss units at Iris' natural and into his main, overrunning the crippled terran. Iris concedes, having invested too much of his early economy into mostly ineffective drop play.
Game 3
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Tempest opened with a proxy robotics facility just southwest of Iris' main on Destination. Iris scouted the proxy with a marine shortly after it completed, and opened with 1fac1port. Tempest is able to save his robotics facility momentarily, but knowing what's coming, Iris was able to place a bunker in his mineral patch and spoil the reaver harass with a wraith.

Unwilling to relinquish his lead, Iris moved out with four Tanks, destroyed Tempest's proxy pylon, and then prevented Tempest from taking an expansion. Tempest walls in his main with pylons, but this serves only to prevent his own army from establishing a presence on the map. Unable to recover, Tempest slowly loses the game, and the series. Iris moves on to the semifinals!

(Z)Jaedong vs (Z)EffOrt
Game 1
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Jaedong opens with a 9 pool gas-trick and EffOrt with a 12 hat, 11 pool, 10 gas. Having placed his expansion hatchery at 13 supply, Jaedong hid his first six Zerglings from EffOrt's overlord, then launches his delayed zergling attack. EffOrt is almost entirely unprepared for the assault but is able to utilize his drones to fend Jaedong off. After successfully defending, EffOrt shows no hesitation in countering Jaedong. It seemed as though Jaedong was relying on his reputation to protect him from a counter as he's woefully underprepared for it and concedes quickly.
Game 2
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Jaedong opens with a 12 hat and EffOrt with a 9 pool speed. EffOrt scouts Jaedong's Overlord, and immediately sends his first zerglings to Jaedong. Jaedong does what he can to defend but is simply outnumbered from the start and falls further and further behind before he finally GGs. EffOrt Advances to the semifinals by outplaying Jaedong. Wow!
Game 3
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Game unnecessary.




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Upcoming
Semifinals - Day 1
July 19, KST 18:00
(T)Flash vs (Z)July

Mappool
Neo Medusa
Heartbreak Ridge
Outsider
Destination
Neo Medusa


I can hardly believe it, but I think July's the favorite here! Just hear me out:

1) Flash's TvZ hasn't been Flash's TvZ lately. He's dropped 5 of his last 8 in the matchup and only one of those losses was to Jaedong. Okay... sure, sure, (Z)Calm and (Z)YellOw[ArnC] have been playing some blistering ZvT lately, but (Z)Kwanro's still Kwanro and Flash lost to him twice!
2) Ignoring the MSL offline Preliminaries (just to pad my stats), July's won 7 of his last 10 ZvT's.
3) July has tons more free time to practice for GOM!
4) It's a best of five and July's a sneaky, cerebral zerg and can surprise Flash in every game of the series, winning with mindgames!
5) July will probably challenge Flash to a "friendly" wrestling match minutes before the game and "accidentally" sprain Flash's right index finger.
6) It's the month of July, people. This is happening!

Wowzers! Look at how many numbers are in that list! July's a lock to take this!
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... Just kidding. Flash is the favorite... Neo Medusa tends to favor the Terran side of TvZ, Destination definitely favors Terran, Heartbreak Ridge is pretty balanced leaving Outsider as the only map that innately benefits Zerg. Realistically, July will be fortunate to get to game 4 and it'll be amazing if he pushes the series to game 5... but you never know! Here's hoping that good ol' July can pull off an upset!



Odds n' Ends
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 18 2009 01:17 GMT
#2
I still think July has something up his sleeve to beat Flash. Somehow.
theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
July 18 2009 01:19 GMT
#3
Damn. My favorite T vs my favorite Z =_=
정명훈 화이팅!~
leomon
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada169 Posts
July 18 2009 01:28 GMT
#4
Hope that July wins it all =D

Radians
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 18 2009 01:28 GMT
#5
Why no write up on the effort vs Iris semi final? I think thats the most exciting semi final. Team mate vs team mate, experienced vs the inexperienced, old vs the new. Its really exciting.
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TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 18 2009 01:29 GMT
#6
He still has another week to do it?
Arf
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
July 18 2009 01:31 GMT
#7
On July 18 2009 10:28 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Why no write up on the effort vs Iris semi final? I think thats the most exciting semi final. Team mate vs team mate, experienced vs the inexperienced, old vs the new. Its really exciting.

That match is two weeks later. I'm pretty sure they will have a write up next week about july vs flash and in that write up they will overview Effort vs. iris.
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simfarm
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Ireland75 Posts
July 18 2009 01:31 GMT
#8
July for upset!
Ahtiven
Profile Joined May 2009
Malaysia159 Posts
July 18 2009 01:33 GMT
#9
here's hoping July can pull this series off
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Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
July 18 2009 01:42 GMT
#10
Hoping this is a great series. Flash is certainly the favorite but will be in trouble if he doesn't restrain his greed. July has improved his zvt since coming to stx, only his zvz is abysmal. If Flash showboats with a lot of cheese, mech and fast econ builds, I think July can win.
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geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
July 18 2009 01:45 GMT
#11
july pulling a win is no upset to me hes been a great ZvT player and was known for it since he came in the scene. i predict july to win sorry flash fanboys
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
July 18 2009 01:46 GMT
#12
JULY GOGOGO
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
July 18 2009 01:57 GMT
#13
Ignore the stats.

Neo Medusa favors Zergs.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
July 18 2009 02:12 GMT
#14
Hoping for a July upset and Iris > EffOrt so that we'll see a great TvZ finals.
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aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
July 18 2009 02:13 GMT
#15
bisu, jaedong, and now flash ^^
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 18 2009 02:25 GMT
#16
Hoping for Flash after epic series. July had lots of time just to prepare for this and Flash TvZ looked lackluster but I believe he should take the series.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 18 2009 02:26 GMT
#17
July for the win! But I really want a TvZ finals, so either Effort vs Flash or July vs Iris really is fine with me. July vs Effort would be completely lopsided, so my third choice would have to be Flash vs Iris.
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
July 18 2009 02:29 GMT
#18
I would be so happy if July won, but I actually like Flash, Effort, and Iris so I would be happy with any result.

Here's to hoping for some great games~

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this is my quote.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 18 2009 02:29 GMT
#19
Flash also has free time to practise since he's out of the MSL the OSL AND the proleague
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iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
July 18 2009 02:31 GMT
#20
On July 18 2009 08:00 Tadzio wrote:
6) It's the month of July, people. This is happening!

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