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iNcontroL
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Pressure
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On February:35 yubee wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/923/proleaguexh3.jpg) kespa is fucking retarded - uhjoo | ||
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GG-Mazor
Sweden330 Posts
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
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LegendzS
Canada68 Posts
On February 21 2007 07:38 uhjoo wrote: My personal opinion, of course, is that KeSPA is fucking retarded. A good analogy about this situation is sort of like this: Two guys, OGN and MBC, start separate lemonade stands. In the beginning, the lemonade is really unusual so no one buys, but as time goes on it catches fire. So then they decide to invite a third guy, KeSPA, to help them coordinate one big profitable lemonade stand. When this stand starts getting really big, KeSPA says, hey, if you want to keep selling lemonade, you have to pay me. OGN and MBC say who the fuck are you, eat me, we made this lemonade stand happen, you hardly did anything. KeSPA then says I'm going to let a third guy, IEG, sell the lemonade from now on, because he paid me. Something like this. well, where theres money... greed is soon to follow. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Tarte
Canada933 Posts
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Vin{MBL}
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muramasa
Canada1299 Posts
Would it be possible, if some sort of compromise is not made, for OGN and MBC to tell KeSPA to fuck off and continue running the league under a different name? They have a pretty strong position to begin with considering they have all the experience and MBC happens to own the ProLeague champions. The only way that KeSPA could possibly be in the right here, with regards to auctioning off the broadcast rights, would be if they reimbursed OGN and MBC for all the money the networks spent on building the infrastructure. | ||
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IEGbrooks
Korea (South)9 Posts
I am the International Business Manager for IEG. I'm also an American working here in Korea. I think you guys are overreacting completely about this situation. You all have to understand that KeSPA is the governing body of e-Sports in Korea. They have every right to 'professionalize' e-Sports by making it more competitive or in this case, selling content rights. I don't know about you guys, but a media organization whether its online, print or TV, should never hold power over a league. It creates too many problems. Yes, both OGN and MBCGame can be attributed with the explosion of professional gaming and really gave competitive StarCraft the boost it needed by putting it on TV. KeSPA was created to govern e-Sports with support from KGDI (Korea Game Development Institute, which is a branch of the Korean Government). These companies gave KeSPA the power to do this sort of thing..competition is a very healthy thing in any sport. Every company involved in KeSPA and e-Sports understands that in order for e-Sports to be professional, it has to be a standalone governing body that has no other motives besides making e-Sports better here in Korea. MBCGame and OGN could have bid on the rights if they wanted to. We even had a second bidding because the first one OGN and MBC declined to bid. Everything done so far has been done to create a more competitive atmosphere. We aren't just trying to muscle out OGN and MBC. There is a bidding process for each game since there is now enough games a week to make it similar to baseball where different TV stations bid for the games they want. I can't stress enough how wrong you guys are about Proleague dying. We are trying to reinvigorate the StarCraft community by spreading the Proleague contents to the US and Europe, whether its online or TV. We are working on getting StarCraft hosted at other major events (besides just WCG) as well as creating a new StarCraft league that players in North America, South America, Asia and Europe can all participate in. We care about expanding e-Sports globally and this is only the first step. I hope you guys change your mind about this whole situation being so grave for Proleague. It will carry on as it has and continue to get better. If any of you here would like some answers and are willing to have an intelligent discussion about this, feel free to email me at stuart@iegroup.co.kr. No flaming please. Only intelligent responses. Stuart Brooks | International Business Manager International E-Sports Group Inc | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I just hope there's no standoff or reduction in quality. | ||
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flammie
61 Posts
On February 21 2007 17:32 IEGbrooks wrote: We are trying to reinvigorate the StarCraft community by spreading the Proleague contents to the US and Europe, whether its online or TV. We are working on getting StarCraft hosted at other major events (besides just WCG) as well as creating a new StarCraft league that players in North America, South America, Asia and Europe can all participate in. We care about expanding e-Sports globally and this is only the first step. I hope you guys change your mind about this whole situation being so grave for Proleague. It will carry on as it has and continue to get better. If not even Korean TV stations are willing to pay for the rights to Proleague, you're going to have zero chance of other media outlets in other countries willing to pay for Proleague or any other kind of starcraft league. | ||
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muramasa
Canada1299 Posts
As I see things now, it still seems like OGN and MBC are getting the short end of the stick. Their investment in pro gaming thus far has been larger than the rest of the sponsors put together (except for maybe KTF and CJ) and now they're losing the broadcasting rights to the event they created. Doesn't seem fair. | ||
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IEGbrooks
Korea (South)9 Posts
Also to whomever said OGN and MBC run the league..they have not done so in a few years. KeSPA referees all of the matches, provides the controller of spectator mode and actually allowed Ongamenet to use the IPARK Stadium. Whether you guys think its wrong that MBC and OGN no longer have control, it's how it should be and is the only way to further expand e-Sports. | ||
Waxangel
United States33069 Posts
OGN managed to get big Proleague sponsors in the past when it was running it alone, remember SKY  ? | ||
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IEGbrooks
Korea (South)9 Posts
KeSPA plans the league and each team in KeSPA funds all of the operational costs as well as the government of Korea giving financial support. KeSPA handles all sponsorships of Proleague. | ||
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Commentator
United States43 Posts
Also, IEGbrooks, if you could say anything more about any plans to bring StarCraft outside of Korea, this forum would be very very grateful. However if you can't get into specifics, we'll live. Thanks | ||
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d4d
Switzerland1066 Posts
On February 21 2007 17:32 IEGbrooks wrote: To all who have posted in this thread: I am the International Business Manager for IEG. I'm also an American working here in Korea. I think you guys are overreacting completely about this situation. You all have to understand that KeSPA is the governing body of e-Sports in Korea. They have every right to 'professionalize' e-Sports by making it more competitive or in this case, selling content rights. I don't know about you guys, but a media organization whether its online, print or TV, should never hold power over a league. It creates too many problems. Yes, both OGN and MBCGame can be attributed with the explosion of professional gaming and really gave competitive StarCraft the boost it needed by putting it on TV. KeSPA was created to govern e-Sports with support from KGDI (Korea Game Development Institute, which is a branch of the Korean Government). These companies gave KeSPA the power to do this sort of thing..competition is a very healthy thing in any sport. Every company involved in KeSPA and e-Sports understands that in order for e-Sports to be professional, it has to be a standalone governing body that has no other motives besides making e-Sports better here in Korea. MBCGame and OGN could have bid on the rights if they wanted to. We even had a second bidding because the first one OGN and MBC declined to bid. Everything done so far has been done to create a more competitive atmosphere. We aren't just trying to muscle out OGN and MBC. There is a bidding process for each game since there is now enough games a week to make it similar to baseball where different TV stations bid for the games they want. I can't stress enough how wrong you guys are about Proleague dying. We are trying to reinvigorate the StarCraft community by spreading the Proleague contents to the US and Europe, whether its online or TV. We are working on getting StarCraft hosted at other major events (besides just WCG) as well as creating a new StarCraft league that players in North America, South America, Asia and Europe can all participate in. We care about expanding e-Sports globally and this is only the first step. I hope you guys change your mind about this whole situation being so grave for Proleague. It will carry on as it has and continue to get better. If any of you here would like some answers and are willing to have an intelligent discussion about this, feel free to email me at stuart@iegroup.co.kr. No flaming please. Only intelligent responses. Stuart Brooks | International Business Manager International E-Sports Group Inc Just wow... + Show Spoiler + Man. you rule at PR! | ||
uhjoo
Korea (South)1740 Posts
Thanks for bringing your input here and clearing up any misconceptions. If you could answer a few questions: 1) Do you believe the Proleague is ready for competitive bidding for broadcast rights? People go to OGN or MBC to watch Proleague games. Will we have to search around, skipping from channel to channel to watch Proleague games? 2) Although only the Proleague is subject to this issue currently, is IEG or KeSPA or anyone else (even KGDI) planning to try to open up broadcast right bidding for the Starleagues? 3) Is there any potential at all for a halting or suspension of the Proleague? 4) You seem to be saying that KeSPA is already in charge, more or less, of the Proleague. Public opinion believes that OGN/MBC do the lion's share of the day to day work. How ready, really, is KeSPA to take over the planning and running of the Proleagues? Can OGN/MBC really just sit back, provide nothing but a film crew and commentators, and broadcast content? 5) Please clarify what exactly IEG's role is/will be. It's quite confusing. 5) How transparent can you be (i.e. how much information can you disclose) about the negotiation process with OGN/MBC? Since you would ostensibly have a seat at the table, can you or anyone inform us what exactly is going on, and what the key issues are, what the possible solutions are? Our most obvious concern, as fans, is that the Proleague content doesn't die, and that it doesn't get diminished in scope or in scale. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11568 Posts
On February 21 2007 17:32 IEGbrooks wrote: To all who have posted in this thread: I am the International Business Manager for IEG. I'm also an American working here in Korea. I think you guys are overreacting completely about this situation. You all have to understand that KeSPA is the governing body of e-Sports in Korea. They have every right to 'professionalize' e-Sports by making it more competitive or in this case, selling content rights. I don't know about you guys, but a media organization whether its online, print or TV, should never hold power over a league. It creates too many problems. Yes, both OGN and MBCGame can be attributed with the explosion of professional gaming and really gave competitive StarCraft the boost it needed by putting it on TV. KeSPA was created to govern e-Sports with support from KGDI (Korea Game Development Institute, which is a branch of the Korean Government). These companies gave KeSPA the power to do this sort of thing..competition is a very healthy thing in any sport. Every company involved in KeSPA and e-Sports understands that in order for e-Sports to be professional, it has to be a standalone governing body that has no other motives besides making e-Sports better here in Korea. MBCGame and OGN could have bid on the rights if they wanted to. We even had a second bidding because the first one OGN and MBC declined to bid. Everything done so far has been done to create a more competitive atmosphere. We aren't just trying to muscle out OGN and MBC. There is a bidding process for each game since there is now enough games a week to make it similar to baseball where different TV stations bid for the games they want. I can't stress enough how wrong you guys are about Proleague dying. We are trying to reinvigorate the StarCraft community by spreading the Proleague contents to the US and Europe, whether its online or TV. We are working on getting StarCraft hosted at other major events (besides just WCG) as well as creating a new StarCraft league that players in North America, South America, Asia and Europe can all participate in. We care about expanding e-Sports globally and this is only the first step. I hope you guys change your mind about this whole situation being so grave for Proleague. It will carry on as it has and continue to get better. If any of you here would like some answers and are willing to have an intelligent discussion about this, feel free to email me at stuart@iegroup.co.kr. No flaming please. Only intelligent responses. Stuart Brooks | International Business Manager International E-Sports Group Inc I will definetly participate. thanks for asking  | ||
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