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astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
January 02 2011 23:58 GMT
#81
I'm sure this is on most of our minds, why wasn't Jinro picked as a favorite or a darkhorse since he was the only foreigner to make it to the Ro8 and is obviously the foreigner favorite
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MrPello
Profile Joined October 2009
Sweden187 Posts
January 03 2011 00:07 GMT
#82
On January 03 2011 08:58 astroorion wrote:
I'm sure this is on most of our minds, why wasn't Jinro picked as a favorite or a darkhorse since he was the only foreigner to make it to the Ro8 and is obviously the foreigner favorite


I'm pretty sure that is because he is neither a favorite or a dark horse. Fan favorite and favorite to win is not the same thing, and since he actually is really good and got to Ro8 he wouldn't be a dark horse if he won either.
Ynyienae
Profile Joined May 2010
United States58 Posts
January 03 2011 00:20 GMT
#83
thanks for the overview of this season <3
"If your opponent is doing something weird, just go fucking kill him" Day[9]
ch0c0b0fr34k
Profile Joined October 2010
United States452 Posts
January 03 2011 01:14 GMT
#84
Jinro has been doing rather poorly in the recent tournaments not named GSL 3. I hope he comes out of his slump and does really well in the group stages, though I'm not betting on it.
Pew pew!
GosuObs
Profile Joined October 2010
United States23 Posts
January 03 2011 01:37 GMT
#85
On January 03 2011 04:21 Deekin[ wrote:
Nice read. But unfortunantely I think oGsMC will drop out in the ro16 or ro8

I believe Rain, Leenock and IMMvp will make the ro4 with someone else.

oGsTOP and JulyZerg will get into code S and sadly enough Ret will not be able to.


Yo this d00d's mad dumb
GosuObs
Profile Joined October 2010
United States23 Posts
January 03 2011 01:41 GMT
#86
On January 03 2011 10:14 ch0c0b0fr34k wrote:
Jinro has been doing rather poorly in the recent tournaments not named GSL 3. I hope he comes out of his slump and does really well in the group stages, though I'm not betting on it.


Yeah he did really poorly in MLG, and his play at GSL1 and GSL2 was pretty much non-existant. Get it? What a poon. Someone sh00t these f00lz
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 01:46:38
January 03 2011 01:45 GMT
#87
On January 03 2011 10:14 ch0c0b0fr34k wrote:
Jinro has been doing rather poorly in the recent tournaments not named GSL 3. I hope he comes out of his slump and does really well in the group stages, though I'm not betting on it.

What other tournament besides GSL, where he of course got 3/4th, and MLG Dallas, which he won, has he played in recently? What slump?, he just came out of a slump.
This comment makes no sense.
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JohnWayne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States150 Posts
January 03 2011 02:02 GMT
#88
very nice article, i just hope to see some foreigner getting far. I love rooting for them, it just seems so much more fun^^ not that i dont have my korean favourites..

Jinro and IdrA can advance right? bit complicated the system...the OSL one is better in my opinion
"Three o'clock is always too late or too early for anything you want to do." - Sartre
stkblee
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore129 Posts
January 03 2011 02:33 GMT
#89
On January 03 2011 10:45 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 10:14 ch0c0b0fr34k wrote:
Jinro has been doing rather poorly in the recent tournaments not named GSL 3. I hope he comes out of his slump and does really well in the group stages, though I'm not betting on it.

What other tournament besides GSL, where he of course got 3/4th, and MLG Dallas, which he won, has he played in recently? What slump?, he just came out of a slump.
This comment makes no sense.


I think he means the gisado challenge and the other small korean tournaments.... not much in terms of prizes but nonetheless playing with the best
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
January 03 2011 05:37 GMT
#90
On January 02 2011 21:31 Odoakar wrote:
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that this system sucks so hard, especially with results of group A in mind

Let's take this group for example:

oGsMC
oGsInCa
oGsNada
SanZenith

oGsMC is obviously by far the strongest player here, I don't think you can even compare Inca to him. SanZenith is pretty much screwed. Let's say he loses to MC and Nada wins against Inca. MC then thrashes Inca, who is out. The rankings would then be:

MC 2:0 advances
Nada 1:0
Zenith 0:1
Inca 0:2

Now Zenith needs to win 2 games against Nada to advance, while Nada needs only one. But NaDa doesn't need to play against the strongest player in the group, while SenZenith had. It makes no sense.


Thats what happened last night with group A isn't it? I really don't get why they don't just do a standard round robin.
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
January 03 2011 05:47 GMT
#91
Sweet. Too bad I won't have enough time to watch it all live...

I guess I can always pick up the VoDs when I have time. The GSL is a huge treat when I have a break.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
littlebunny
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4 Posts
January 03 2011 08:52 GMT
#92
Great read, keep up the good work TL Staff!
Yung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States727 Posts
January 03 2011 09:02 GMT
#93
Does anyone else see the smoke coming from there hands?
GosuObs
Profile Joined October 2010
United States23 Posts
January 03 2011 13:48 GMT
#94
So far, lovedrop's predictions have been the most true
SYNC_qx
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany197 Posts
January 03 2011 15:23 GMT
#95
sooo amazing im loving it
Brewed Tea
Profile Joined October 2010
United States124 Posts
January 03 2011 15:24 GMT
#96
On January 02 2011 21:31 Odoakar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that this system sucks so hard, especially with results of group A in mind

Let's take this group for example:

oGsMC
oGsInCa
oGsNada
SanZenith

oGsMC is obviously by far the strongest player here, I don't think you can even compare Inca to him. SanZenith is pretty much screwed. Let's say he loses to MC and Nada wins against Inca. MC then thrashes Inca, who is out. The rankings would then be:

MC 2:0 advances
Nada 1:0
Zenith 0:1
Inca 0:2

Now Zenith needs to win 2 games against Nada to advance, while Nada needs only one. But NaDa doesn't need to play against the strongest player in the group, while SenZenith had. It makes no sense.


It's a wall of text
+ Show Spoiler +
well the matches aren't randomly chosen. the system for the GSL had was that the top 8 seeded players would be placed into the separate group. then the rest of the Code S players would draw. and the 3 out of that would be placed into the match depending on their rank and go as 1st vs 3rd and 2nd vs 4th. So MC(3) would go against Nada(20). while Inca(13) would go against SanZenith(27). (so its actually MC v Nada and Inca vs San)

but lets use your example. If MC was the 1st seed and Zenith was the 3rd, and Nada was the 2nd and Inca was the 4th. Then Nada would get two chances at beating San because since Nada is the 2nd highest seed. so then it would be either:
MC 2:0 Nada 2:0 Zenith 0:2 Inca 0:2 or MC 2:0 Nada 1:0 Zenith 0:1 and Inca 0:2.
so zenith would have to take two games to advance, making him 2:1 and nada 1:2. but if
Nada won then that would make him 2:0. Nada would then have to face MC to break the tie.

its a system that protects that highest rank player which alot of people say its fair and i agree.. Nada wouldn't need to face off against the 1st seeded player if he beats out the bottom two and the 3rd seeded player shouldn't have to take only one game to advance.
it just doesn't seem fair but it works. if MC beats the 3rd and 4th ranked player then he should stay where he is at. Nada might not have to face off against MC but if he beats out the 3rd and 4th ranked player then that shows the 3rd and 4th ranked players are where they are at accordingly.
It makes perfect sense if you think about in terms of long term consistencies and rankings in such. as a separate event on its own. it doesn't seem that fair. but that's why GOM had 3 opens


if it wasnt for mules terrans would have to 15 hatch every game.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 17:03:42
January 03 2011 17:03 GMT
#97
On January 03 2011 22:48 GosuObs wrote:
So far, lovedrop's predictions have been the most true

Mmmm... none of my predictions have played. I'm gonna take this, don't worry, mvp hasn't won yet, and JookTo hasn't been demoted yet.
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Leahbjackson
Profile Joined November 2010
United States107 Posts
January 03 2011 17:37 GMT
#98
Thanks for such a great post, I loved the write up on every player.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
January 03 2011 18:48 GMT
#99
Man i love you guys

I hope the best for IdrA and of course all the TLAF and OGS guys
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Proper
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 19:09:41
January 03 2011 19:00 GMT
#100
Obvious the writer has never seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Let me quote it:

"Badly is an adverb. So to say you feel badly would be saying that the machanism which allows you to feel is broken."

Just a little grammar for thought.

Loved the article. Well done. :D
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