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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 07:43:56
November 30 2010 07:35 GMT
#41
Ret is right. In sc2 macro is a secondary / minor thing, Blizzard made macro easy so the players can focus on strats and execution. Sure in the beta and during release macro was seen as big because no one would really show perfect macro but it will become standard amongst progamers. Just look at Idra's macro, in the past he was considered the best macro zerg, but nowadays more and more top zergs manage to achieve such macro.
o choro é livre
Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
November 30 2010 07:39 GMT
#42
Ret fighting!!
Real action, my dream.
samuraibael
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia294 Posts
November 30 2010 07:53 GMT
#43
I dont even know why people still talk about macro in sc2. Ret is just being honest not modest when he says dont compliment him on that... it is not so much a skill as just a choice for the zerg.
SC1 macro took incredible multitasking and apm while sc2 is just making drones while not dieing. Its only game sense now rather than pure mechanical skill.
semajwd
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada36 Posts
November 30 2010 08:12 GMT
#44
So amazing the play on rets part awsome, finally we penetrate through the amass of koreans!
...................Infamous Immortal Socrates ;) http://www.sc2ranks.com/team/4558230
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 30 2010 08:21 GMT
#45
This is gonna seem really lame, but SC2 made making units ridiculously easy.

LOLOL <3 RET
Hello
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
November 30 2010 08:25 GMT
#46
On November 30 2010 16:07 skronch wrote:
from idra's twitter:

"ret vs thebest was one of the largest injustices ever committed. i shall avenge him vs mvp. unless he knows about banshees."

i agree


lol...imma cry if idra loses. But I've seen him kite BCs with queens...so I think he will be okay!
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
November 30 2010 08:26 GMT
#47
Future SC2 Bonjwa. Yessireebob.
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 30 2010 08:41 GMT
#48
On November 30 2010 12:41 Lovedrop wrote:
(T)TLAF-Liquid`Jinro is set to play his match on Wednesday, December 1st. His opponent is none other than WeMade's Moon, the War3 legend. The maps are Scrap Station, Xel'Naga Caverns, and Blistering Sands. The maps heavily favors Z, with the exception of Xel'Naga Caverns.

Immeadiately following his match will be (Z)EGIdrA going up against (T)IMmvp on the maps Blistering Sands

This is absolutely ridiculous.
Those maps couldn't be worse for out players if they tried.
How the hell can the GSL have a map system so pathetically bad as this?
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
November 30 2010 08:46 GMT
#49
On November 30 2010 17:41 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 12:41 Lovedrop wrote:
(T)TLAF-Liquid`Jinro is set to play his match on Wednesday, December 1st. His opponent is none other than WeMade's Moon, the War3 legend. The maps are Scrap Station, Xel'Naga Caverns, and Blistering Sands. The maps heavily favors Z, with the exception of Xel'Naga Caverns.

Immeadiately following his match will be (Z)EGIdrA going up against (T)IMmvp on the maps Blistering Sands

This is absolutely ridiculous.
Those maps couldn't be worse for out players if they tried.
How the hell can the GSL have a map system so pathetically bad as this?


Your signature is ironic to your comments.

I have faith in IdrA though even though he's going up against an ex BW pro player. I do think it's kind of lame though how they pick the GSL maps. Honestly though Starcraft 2 just needs more maps in general.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
xlnt
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden106 Posts
November 30 2010 09:00 GMT
#50
Was so sad to see you get knocked out when I watched the games last night I hope you make S-Class ASAP next year! Liquid` Fighting~~!
roxxor?
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
November 30 2010 09:01 GMT
#51
I don't think the problem is the AMOUNT of maps, in total, it's the need for a team like the ones who made the korean maps like destination, fighting spirit etc. Maybe a GSL map team which makes a few maps every other season which the players have to play on. There should still be few available maps each season, but there should be new maps often.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
November 30 2010 09:02 GMT
#52
Ret, you are by far the most inspirational player I have ever gotten the pleasure of watching. When I found out that you had lost this morning, I was unable to go through the day without having this sinking feeling in my stomach.

I'm looking forward to your next run! It'll be a final showing for sure!
@DreamingBird
fabulously
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway724 Posts
November 30 2010 09:21 GMT
#53
Great interview, and amazing performance. Such a pity those matches. I am sure jinro and idra will avenge you! Well done either way and good luck in the future.
Welcome back ROOT-gaming - you were never forgotten <3
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 30 2010 09:33 GMT
#54
On November 30 2010 17:41 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 12:41 Lovedrop wrote:
(T)TLAF-Liquid`Jinro is set to play his match on Wednesday, December 1st. His opponent is none other than WeMade's Moon, the War3 legend. The maps are Scrap Station, Xel'Naga Caverns, and Blistering Sands. The maps heavily favors Z, with the exception of Xel'Naga Caverns.

Immeadiately following his match will be (Z)EGIdrA going up against (T)IMmvp on the maps Blistering Sands

This is absolutely ridiculous.
Those maps couldn't be worse for out players if they tried.
How the hell can the GSL have a map system so pathetically bad as this?

It makes Moon vs Boxer more probable which is good for gom
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
November 30 2010 09:54 GMT
#55
On November 30 2010 18:33 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 17:41 Klive5ive wrote:
On November 30 2010 12:41 Lovedrop wrote:
(T)TLAF-Liquid`Jinro is set to play his match on Wednesday, December 1st. His opponent is none other than WeMade's Moon, the War3 legend. The maps are Scrap Station, Xel'Naga Caverns, and Blistering Sands. The maps heavily favors Z, with the exception of Xel'Naga Caverns.

Immeadiately following his match will be (Z)EGIdrA going up against (T)IMmvp on the maps Blistering Sands

This is absolutely ridiculous.
Those maps couldn't be worse for out players if they tried.
How the hell can the GSL have a map system so pathetically bad as this?

It makes Moon vs Boxer more probable which is good for gom


reading this leaves a terrible taste in my mouth
like bile
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
DayJP
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil477 Posts
November 30 2010 09:55 GMT
#56
good luck next time ret
i always go against bandwagons but man, you are indeed one of the best zergs around
"Why did the Colossus fall over? Because it's imbalanced! :D" - Dan Artosis
Ohjay
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany83 Posts
November 30 2010 09:55 GMT
#57
This map system is so ridiculos!

RET FIGHTING!!!
BoBite
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland16 Posts
November 30 2010 10:04 GMT
#58
I'm pretty much dissapointed in ret's lose :/ I thought he will win this one easy after first set. Unfortunately for my favorite zerg he lost but I know he can make it to the finals some day and win it. Go go RET! I also hope that more great european players, like MaNa, Tarson, guys from mouz will show up in the GSL in future.
What comes around, goes around.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 10:17:44
November 30 2010 10:15 GMT
#59
Still a bit bummed about the games yesterday..

thx for the fast recap, it's quite nice to read it so fast after the games happened


On November 30 2010 18:33 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 17:41 Klive5ive wrote:
On November 30 2010 12:41 Lovedrop wrote:
(T)TLAF-Liquid`Jinro is set to play his match on Wednesday, December 1st. His opponent is none other than WeMade's Moon, the War3 legend. The maps are Scrap Station, Xel'Naga Caverns, and Blistering Sands. The maps heavily favors Z, with the exception of Xel'Naga Caverns.

Immeadiately following his match will be (Z)EGIdrA going up against (T)IMmvp on the maps Blistering Sands

This is absolutely ridiculous.
Those maps couldn't be worse for out players if they tried.
How the hell can the GSL have a map system so pathetically bad as this?

It makes Moon vs Boxer more probable which is good for gom



+ Show Spoiler +
Mpf, yeah I wasnt aware of that, but looking at the brackets of ro 64 it was extremely likely to me that they were rigged. This explains why they did this horrible change, to control whos gonna play who even more...
beep boop
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 30 2010 10:39 GMT
#60
On November 30 2010 18:33 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 17:41 Klive5ive wrote:
On November 30 2010 12:41 Lovedrop wrote:
(T)TLAF-Liquid`Jinro is set to play his match on Wednesday, December 1st. His opponent is none other than WeMade's Moon, the War3 legend. The maps are Scrap Station, Xel'Naga Caverns, and Blistering Sands. The maps heavily favors Z, with the exception of Xel'Naga Caverns.

Immeadiately following his match will be (Z)EGIdrA going up against (T)IMmvp on the maps Blistering Sands

This is absolutely ridiculous.
Those maps couldn't be worse for out players if they tried.
How the hell can the GSL have a map system so pathetically bad as this?

It makes Moon vs Boxer more probable which is good for gom


so gom isn't randomly selecting the maps but looks which players would give them more viewers? is that why they removed map-veto?

great job with the interview and the coverage, looking forward for more!
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