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[PL] Stepping Stone

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July 31st, 2010 02:18 GMT
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Playoffs are here. Winners watch the sun rise, losers drown in the sea.


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SK Telecom T1 vs Wemade FOX

Game of the Week

The Meat Grinder

The War of Words


One step closer. The entire year, the entire Proleague season is only a buildup to these climactic weeks where the five round-robins of the regular season make way for the single-elimination duels leading to the Grand Final. The second round of the playoffs, where late bloomers SKT took on the Wemade ruffians, has ended, and the semifinals against STX SouL lay ahead. SK Telecom T1 has confirmed its renaissance after a difficult year by defeating Wemade FOX without breaking much of a sweat, and who could better lead this renewal than a back-in-form Bisu?

First and foremost among the sons of Aiur, Bisu -- the dagger that brought down the seemingly invincible Savior. What a year for Kim Taekyong: a slow decline that culminated with a six-game losing streak (the worst of his career) and the SKT coaching staff putting him on "temporary leave," while relying on the infamous SKT Zergs to keep the team afloat. Was this the end? Had the team finally given up on their star player?

Fans feared the worst. But after a month of absence, sharpening his dagger in special training at the team house, Bisu returned. Zergs fell -- mere fodder, at first. Fans were ecstatic, but the doubters still outnumbered them. Then Jaedong himself met the tip of Bisu's blade, and it was on. The floodgates have opened and a wave of Bisu adoration that would put a Korean fangirl to shame has swept over Teamliquid. He's back, they murmur. HE'S BACK, they roar. There was no more ideal way to get SKT back on track for the playoffs: the champion of the 2008-09 season returning to form, brimming with newfound confidence and racking up the victories.

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When his fist opens and reveals a dagger, foes die.


Arrayed against him was Wemade FOX. A less splendid story. While Bisu was overcoming his slump, Baby was diving headfirst into his. Since beating Flash in the fifth round of Proleague, the prodigy had gone an abysmal 2-11, dropping games first to Protoss, then to Zergs, then to anyone with a mouse and keyboard and functioning hands. Still, Wemade managed to defeat MBCGame HERO in Round 1 of the playoffs, and with the likes of Shine and Roro hungry for blood and Pure stepping it up in the clutch, they weren't an opponent to be trifled with. Flamewheel delivers the recaps of the two-day battle.

SK Telecom T1 vs Wemade FOX
by flamewheel


Day 1
(Z)s2 > Sacrsi on Roadrunner
(P)Bisu > (P)Pure on Polaris Rhapsody
(Z)n.Die_Soo > (T)BaBy on Match Point
(T)Canata < (Z)RorO on Fighting Spirit
(P)BeSt > (T)Midas on Grand Line SE

SK Telecom T1 4-1 WeMade FOX


Let's face it, who amongst us thought that SKT vs FOX would be as epic as SKT vs CJ? I sure as hell didn't, and I was proven right with this first day. In the first Bo7 between SK Telecom T1 and WeMade FOX, the games were for the most part lackluster and subpar. If it weren't for an amazing Set 2, I would have considered the night a waste. Regardless, let's look briefly at how the games went along.

Set 1: ((Z)s2 vs (Z)Sacsri on Roadrunner)
First off, Sacsri. Sacsri? Interesting snipe attempt by Fox, since they expected... not s2. Despite not having prepared for a Zerg, s2 took the match by force, though largely due to failure by Sacsri in preparing for the critical moment. It looked like Sacsri had the advantage early on. He had two hatcheries to s2's one, and the second one was at the natural, no less. However, due to s2 managing to kill Sacsri's in-base overlord he was able to pull off a mass ling bust that Sacsri did not prepare for in time. Sacsri was able to spore up and was perfectly safe for Mutalisks, but in sinking all that money into spore colonies he forgot that he didn't have ground-based defenses.

When s2 attacked, the lack of a sunken colony turned this:

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Into this:

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Had Sacsri considered his ground-based weakness and prepared by even making an extra creep colony, he would have been able to hold it off. However, since he did not, with the flood of Zerglings s2 stormed through Sacsri's defenses and takes the opening set for SKT.

Set 2: ((P)Bisu vs (P)Pure on Polaris Rhapsody)
Do yourself a favor: if you have not already watched this game, go do so. I will not talk about the game details, but I will post all the relevant pictures here:

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Set 3: ((T)BaBy vs (Z)SoO on Match Point
This game was absolutely disgusting. Piss-poor control by BaBy into mass mutaling victory for SoO. In fact, this game is so bad I'm not even compulsively printscreening like I normally do. No picture for you!

BaBy better find his socks ;_;

Set 4: ((T)Canata vs (Z)RorO on Fighting Spirit)
Another bad game. Bad control for both players throughout the entire match.

First RorO fails to do any damage with his Mutalisks thanks to Canata deciding to ring his natural CC with six turrets and does a good job with his marines in patrolling the main..

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Turret Defense v.Canata 2010. Turn that CC into a PF and you're playing SCII.

Then Canata was tricked and failed to attack with his mnm force while RorO was defenseless, and so RorO was able to get lurkers out.

Then mass amounts of lurkers burrowed outside of Canata's base turns into both sides kind of sitting around until defilers show their lobster-like heads. The somewhere in there Guardians start bombing stuff before getting taken out by wraiths, and I started raging and asking myself why Zergs never bothered to protect 5-6 Guardians from two wraiths.

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I passed out for a bit right here.

I do give RorO props for one thing though: he had amazing clutch lurkers under swarms to keep Canata's expos denied, and that led to Canata's suicide starvation and RorO's win.

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Delicious Maynard train with a slice of Stop Lurker.

Otherwise though, the game just didn't have much 'epicness' in it to me. Hell, even one of the usually most exciting things to happen in ZvT (mutas killing plagued vessels) wasn't even conducive to making the game tense, since that was pretty much Canata's last chance to stay in the game.

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It's like kicking a puppy.

However, comparing this game to RorO's fantastic play against Sea in the match against MBC, I was not impressed at all.

Set 5: ((P)BeSt vs (T)Midas on Grand Line SE)
What was this game, seriously. Midas, I know you can't keep up in a straight-up macro game, so I can understand you going Deep 6. However, BeSt goes triple Nexus, and you still lose? Terrible micro against Reavers usurped your surprise, and then BeSt macro rolled you.

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All that marine blood to pretty much one scarab.

Interestingly enough, BeSt said in his post-game interview that he thought Midas would try something like this, and thus he went Reaver-tech. Still, Midas was too sloppy and his micro, or lack thereof, lost him the game.

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Artist's rendition of flamewheel working his way through the VODs of a not-so-satisfying series.


Day 2
(Z)s2 < (Z)Shine on Judgment Day
(P)BeSt > (T)Mind on Grand Line SE
(T)Fantasy > (T)BaBy on Match Point
(Z)Hyuk > (P)Pure on New Heartbreak Ridge
(Z)n.Die_Soo < (Z)RorO on Roadrunner
(P)Bisu < (T)Midas on Fighting Spirit
(P)Bisu > (P)Pure on Polaris Rhapsody

SK Telecom T1 4-3 WeMade FOX


Set 1: ((Z)s2 vs (Z)Shine on Judgment Day)
s2 opens again for SKT and instead of sending Sacsri, FOX does the smart thing and sends Shine. Interestingly enough, Shine is third 3rd highest for ZvZ ELO. I seriously did not know that before this week. Anyway, being a ZvZ this game was nothing special. Both players went for in-base second hatches, and nothing happened until Mutalisks appear, and then it turned into a Muta/Scourge vs Muta/Scourge battle, and being better at managing his flying C-section shrimp, Shine wins.

Set 2: ((P)BeSt vs (T)Mind on Grand Line SE)
This game made me palmface. Facepalming is an incorrect term when you're hitting yourself in the head with your open hand, anyway. Regardless, BeSt the macro monster is let loose for SKT while FOX decides to send out Mind. And just like on Day 1, the Terran in the BeSt vT on Grand Line SE decides to go for... Deep 6. Even though BeSt doesn't go triple nexus this time, he still defends it handily due to Mind's terrible micro plus his decision to make a million bunkers.

In his first attack, Mind decides it's okay to let his marines get wailed on by probes, and thus BeSt is able to live.

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Probe drill > mnm assault up ramp.

After being beaten down by the small mechanical monstrosities, Mind decides he's going to play SCII.

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No, Mind, those are not salvageable.

With a Shuttle and Reaver supported by Dragoons, BeSt breaks free, and shortly after Mind taps out. BeSt celebrates by dancing and slapping with Bunkie.

Set 3: ((T)Fantasy vs (T)BaBy on Match Point)
In this game, Fantasy simply walked all over BaBy. As far as TvTs go, it was very well-played by Fantasy (especially using his wraiths to finish off BaBy's natural CC), but it was overwhelmingly one-sided for the most part. As somebody in the Live Report thread stated, "BaBy seemed to not be able to find his T key." Seriously, Taeyang. Your opponent decides to go 2Star and you don't make a single turret? Don't even get me started on your lack of tanks. No picture for you.

Set 4: ((Z)Hyuk vs (P)Pure on New Heartbreak Ridge)
Hydralisks, hydralisks, and more hydralisks. Pure, FOX's clutch player, failed to notice and defend against Hyuk's hydralisk assault after losing all his zealots and an archon (no storm?) as they are out in the open. A few Templar snipes later, and Hyuk was all up in Pure's base killing his dudes.

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Seriously, just no. Templar gets sniped about three seconds after this printscreen was taken.


Set 5: ((Z)n.Die_soO vs (Z)RorO on Roadrunner)
I hate your name, soO. I really do. Why can't it be easier to TLPDize? ...Anyway, SKT's most fail Zerg is up trying to seal the deal against WeMade's Ace for another 4-1 victory, and he almost succeeds. After some nice initial zergling micro, soO takes the advantage.

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As I was skipping through the VOD, I stopped on this shot of Bunkie. Is anybody else reminded of Aladdin?

However, soO decides to throw away the huge zergling advantage has obtained by suiciding all those extra lings up a ramp right into RorO's defending mutalisks.

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More palmfacing.

After this epic failure in decision-making, RorO goes out with his mutalisks, destroys soO's drones, and the game is won for FOX, keeping them in the match.

Set 6: ((P)Bisu vs (T)Midas on Fighting Spirit)
There will be rage from KwarK on this, so I'm not really going to talk about much. It was a nice macro match and had a lot of back-and-forths, but seriously Bisu: why the hell do you make so many archons? Bisu pretty much won every engagement early on but still lost because he couldn't take the expansions when he had to thanks to those big floating balls of gas. So good vZ, so fail vT. Use templar, please.

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EMP > Archons

Set 7: ((P)Bisu vs (P)Pure on Polaris Rhapsody)
For the Ace match, Bisu is sent out again. In the LR thread, we wondered if he was fit to play: he was in tears after losing to Midas. Luckily, Pure decided he was going to do the same thing he did in Day 2: lose in the crucial moment due to something silly.

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This Dark Archon drew a lot of comments in the LR thread...

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But when it came time for him to be useful, he is nowhere to be found.

Please note, folks, that getting your templars stormed and not storming back in return is not a good way to win your PvPs.

And so, with a clean 2-0 victory, SKT would move on, one step closer to the gold.


Starcraft progaming has existed for over a decade. Few records remain of its earliest days, between the PC Bangs and the gaudy futurism of the first TV studio sets. The Christian calendar designates an earlier era with the name "Before Christ"; similarly, Starcraft has a period "Before Boxer". An unknown, all but forgotten epoch whose starting point is lost in the mists of time, with only a few grainy videos bearing witness.

Professional Starcraft is old and venerable. It has lived long enough and involved enough players to establish a culture, with its codes and traditions. Most appeared naturally, others were later enforced by the regulatory bodies in charge. The interactions between the players, inside the teams, between the teams -- all molded into shape by years of tradition, by the dozens of players that came before.

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A legacy: two bonjwas watch over Bisu.




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SKT will be Proleague Champion

The Bonjwas' Victory Song


Among these traditions, one of the most firmly established is that SK Telecom T1 wins the Proleague. Ever since its victory over favorites Hanbit Stars in the 2003 OGN EVERCup, when Boxer's team was still called 4U, SKT has tasted gold more than any other team in progaming. "In the natural order of things, the proleague championship belongs to SKT T1," one of the team's fans proclaimed with supreme confidence. Just as Boxer is the quintessential Starcraft player, SKT is the quintessential Starcraft team. The Emperor and his Emperors of Proleague.

Tradition molds players, history affects them, and it is this tradition and this history that are now at work through the minds and nimble hands of SKT's players, and more specifically their two Protoss champions. It's all fun and games until Best arrives: in the match against CJ Entus, after Fantasy collided twice with Skyhigh on Fortress and the CJ Terran proved again that his TvT is the best in the world, Best was sent out to clean his clock on Day 3. Against Wemade, he effortlessly repelled Midas and Mind's Deep Six despite taking a fast third. He now has an immaculate 5-0 record in the playoffs.

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Tradition also means that these players aren't winning anymore.


As for Bisu, his string of PvP victories has earned him another Game of the Week, brought to us by our favorite combined streamer/writer, Mystlord.

Game of the Week
Bisu vs Pure

by Mystlord

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Unfortunately, there were no truly good games this past Proleague match, but there was one really exciting match that made everyone cry, cheer, and go crazy with excitement every few minutes, despite showcasing rather subpar play from both players. In the absence of an absolutely amazing game to do a write up on, I'm just going to do this one: Bisu vs. Pure.

Another Bisu game? Why yes. The map is Polaris Rhapsody, and Bisu starts as the White Protoss at the bottom right, and Pure starts as the Blue Protoss at the top left. Mirror builds from both players, although Pure places a manner Pylon is Bisu's base, which only catches one Probe. We see a divergence in the builds when Bisu gets Dragoon Range and a Citadel of Adun, as opposed to Pure, who skipped getting Dragoon Range in favor of a Robotics Facility. Bisu rushes for DTs, and Pure thus needs to be getting Observers to counter. However, Pure opts to go for a Robotics Support first, and then an Observatory. The crowd waits in anticipation to see if Pure is going for a Reaver first or an Observer first...

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And the crowd goes wild!


Bisu sends his first DT straight for Pure's base, and the Observer definitely sees the DT, but Pure apparently didn't, and the crowd screams as Bisu's DT heads straight for Pure's mineral line. It seems that Pure will be able to catch up to Bisu's DT, but...

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Traitor Probe!


Pure left a Probe on top of his ramp, which conveniently blocks all Dragoons from getting inside Pure's base to deal with the DT. All in all..

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10 Kill DT. Paid for itself quite easily.


It seems that Bisu is clearly ahead at this point, and Pure's ONLY hope is to hope that the Reaver in his speed upgraded Shuttle can deal a lot of damage. But Bisu's Probe micro is impeccable right?

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NOPE!


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I stand corrected.


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Well at least this wasn't too bad.. right???


With that 17 kill Reaver, Pure was able to equalize with Bisu economically. Bisu isn't completely behind thanks to his much faster expansion, and he can produce Probes quicker than Pure. However, that was still a major blunder by Bisu. Pure ALMOST gets another huge scarab...

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But it's a dud.


Still, the damage has been done, and Bisu is severely shaken up. What was originally an essentially sealed game is now a much tougher came for Bisu to win. Pure attempts to move forward into Bisu's natural, but Bisu has built 5 Cannons and has Storm researched, so Pure can't do anything with his army. However, Pure has another idea in mind. He makes another Shuttle, and plans to elevator his army in past Bisu's Cannons. Will it succeed?

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Storm > Reaver


No it doesn't, and Pure is now down a Shuttle, a Reaver, and a few Dragoons. Pure's solution? More Reaver harass! Unfortunately, the Shuttle gets caught.

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Well that didn't work.


Oops. Now Pure's down and behind. Bisu is phased enough from all the harass that he stays in his base for the next few minutes, concentrating primarily on defending his economy. But Bisu then pulls an extremely clever move. He moves out with his army to the northeast, making Pure divert his forces in that direction, while loading a few Templar into a Shuttle, and heading towards Pure's base through the south.

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Storm!


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More Storm!


11 Probes killed in all (Another storm not shown). But Pure has a just as devious plan in store. While Bisu's attention is diverted, he sneaks in with a speed Shuttle containing a Reaver and two HTs... The result?

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STORM!


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SCARAB!


The Storms got 11 Probes in all, and the Reaver... I think that's 5 Probes? But I'm not sure since it died immediately after the Scarab was fired. So now Bisu's behind. Pure takes 12 while Bisu takes 6, and at this point, Bisu's +1 attack finishes. This proves to be crucial later, as Pure evidently forgot upgrades. But anyway, this game can't go 5 minutes without more...

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STOOOOORM!!!


9 kills, and Bisu's definitively behind. The Shuttle does end up going down. Pure is now confident enough to start pushing forward aggressively, but it's only a move to apply pressure, and he pulls back. Both players now move to take their double gas expansion, and Pure now thinks it's an opportune time to attack. Unfortunately, he attacks into Bisu's concave, and he's behind in HT count. So even though Pure has a larger army, Bisu is able to equalize with Pure.

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Hard to see, but Bisu has a better position.


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Storm: Bisu's saving grace.


While this was all ongoing, Bisu sent 4 Zealots to Pure's building double gas expo and took it down. It looks like Bisu is now in the lead, but Pure sends his own attack force to take down Bisu's own double gas expo. So now we're back into stagnant play mode. Pure thinks it's a good time to Storm drop Bisu's 6, but Bisu only loses 4 Probes thank to quick micro. Pure also tries to Storm drop bottom left, but again, it only catches 4 Probes. Pure tries to send an attack force of about 8 Zealots down to bottom left as well, but Bisu's army is in the vicinity so it gets repelled. Both players descend into a building up phase, where they essentially just macro up. They both launch attacks on each other's expansions, but they're mostly unsuccessful. Pure tries to pull off more Storm drops, which only get a few Probes. Bisu's +3 attack has now finished, and he now moves to finish off Pure before his +3 upgrades finish. And thus.. BATTLE ENSUES!

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Storm!


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More Storm!


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Completely raped!


Two factors caused Bisu to win the final battle: 1) He caught Pure with half of his army on the bridge. 2) Pure lost 4 HTs in the past 2 minutes on storm drops, and also accidentally lost 2 Archons through mismicro. In other words, Pure's aggressive harass style worked against him when it came down to the crucial final battle. So remember kids. July 24, 2010 will forever be remembered as the day the Probe finally became extinct. RIP Probes. You will be missed.




Our cup overfloweth with Bisu-love. But one man is not amused -- taking a break from his OSL ramblings, cranky old Kwark deigned respond to our query about Bisu's PvT, the one blemish on an otherwise spotless record. Kim Taekyong may be a PvZ virtuoso but his PvT remains dodgy, as his loss to Midas in the Day 2 series illustrated. Kwark has one word for it: outdated.


The Meat Grinder
by Kwark


On June 16 2010 15:51 KwarK wrote:
If Bisu had shown any strategic diversity I'd have been the first in the "HE'S BACK" choir. He didn't though, just macro and arbiters which is simply not enough to beat a top level Terran. It was the same story in his other prelim games too. Maybe Bisu felt he didn't need to use his best builds to beat the prelims and would rather rely on his macro. But unless I see him dismantle a push with storms or transition into carrier, dragoon, high templar at the perfect time I'm not going to be impressed. While his macro was top level his style was outdated and one dimensional. Sorry guys.


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Coach Park is not amused.


This year Bisu's PvT record (excluding the offline prelims) is at 10-10 and the only good Terran he's beaten is Baby, five months ago. He's still capable of running over guys like Mind and Iris who aren't really relevant anymore but when Midas dominates him the way he did today then something is going wrong. The maps have changed and Bisu's style does not work anymore. What's even more disappointing is that when it became apparent yesterday that his style wasn't working he refused to adapt in any way. It doesn't matter what your planned strategy is, when you have spare gas PvT the correct options are arbiters, carriers or high templar. Never archons. That's just bad. Bisu's play was just bad. When a Protoss is so caught up in playing to his own particular style that he refuses to use psi storm then that's pretty much that.


All paeans aside, SKT isn't in the Grand Final yet. Standing in their path is a team that refuses to be yet another stepping stone on T1's usual way to victory. STX SouL finished second during the regular Proleague season, but it has been thrust into the unlikely position of the underdog due to its players' collective slump in Round 5. When the only player on your team with a positive record during that round is Frozean aka Cuteangel, you know there's a problem in need of fixing.

But Proleague isn't about a few weeks of games, it's about an entire year of endeavor. And during that period STX delivered round after round, whether it was Calm's ZvZ, Kal's nerve-wracking multitasking, Shuttle's implacable PvP, hero's 4 gas macro or Frozen's abusive mech. STX players have a reputation for inconsistency, for crumbling under pressure. While certainly more emotional than most, they have nonetheless delivered when it mattered: Shuttle all-killed Samsung Khan during the Winners League, running through Stork and Jangbi in succession with apparent ease. In Round 4, Kal became one of the strongest ace players in Proleague.

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Calm is not amused either. Who wins the staredown?




STX fandom
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Starcraft of Unbelievable Legend

Samsung and eSTRO stand with STX


As for Cuteangel? He's immune to pressure. In the Grand Final of the 2007 Proleague, when he still played for Samsung Khan, he was the only player to take a game off Lecaf by beating Jaedong himself. More recently, after Hwasin's betrayal was revealed and the ever emotional STX slid into despair, Frozen marched on unperturbed. Maybe because he knows that today, the true heart of STX isn't Hwasin, but July. Professional Starcraft is old and venerable. It has its culture, its codes and traditions. July's code is unrelenting aggression, his culture was formed in the rowdy atmosphere of the old MBC team and the tradition he established was one of longevity and renewal. As a veteran, he returned to the frontlines and was the first Zerg to win the Golden Mouse by defeating SKT's Best in the 2008 EVER OSL. Earlier in his career, he took on iloveoov in his prime. If there's one man who isn't afraid of SKT, it's him.

Another man who isn't afraid of SKT is interview translator and stalwart STX supporter Carnivorous Sheep. After offering his own predictions, our man on the street Harem interviewed this unabashed fanboy and got some juicy details on what Sheep obviously predicts to be a bleatdown. But one even more outspoken fan, translation team leader and reformed dancer Roffles, disagrees.

The War of Words
by Harem


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STX SouL vs
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SK Telecom T1

Not much has changed since the last time STX has played T1. Cuteangel is still the best player on STX, the rest of STX is practically invisible, and Bisu's PvT is still pretty bad. Cuteangel is also the man who nearly allkilled T1 itself during STX Masters before. He has shown he has what it takes to crush T1 before now can he do it yet again? Speaking of Bisu and Cuteangel, Cuteangel once had some very interesting thoughts about Bisu himself.

On December 27 2009 16:21 MrHoon wrote:
- You are 4:2 against Bisu including non-sanctioned games
▲ I remember all the games I played with Bisu. But if you add the map testing games, I am actually 6:2 against bisu. But bisu probably doesn't care about that. I may have put the score 1:1 in sanctioned games today but it wasn't a big deal for me.


This is all irrelevant, however, as it's not the fact that T1 is playing STX that is getting people excited. Instead, it is the return of everyone's favorite map, Outsider. This map provides so many epic games that even if we see Mong vs Bogus, no one will really care. Everyone will just be salivating and cherishing the fact that we get to see Outsider once more. It is a map where anything can happen and in a high-stakes match like the playoffs semifinals, we know these teams aren't going to hold back. So, just sit back and enjoy the ride because Outsider doesn't disappoint.



Now, let's enjoy some friendly rivalry as we interview a T1 fan and one of the three STX fans on this site. They are Roffles and Carnivorous Sheep; they may be lowly workers but we don't discriminate here.

Hi! Let's start off easy today and thanks for doing this interview. STX hasn't been relevant in ages. Thoughts on this and what it will potentially mean for the playoffs semifinals?
Carnivorous Sheep: Irrelevant? R5 slump or not, STX's still rank 2, automatically making STX more relevant than CJ, Fox, MBC, and the other six teams who didn't make the playoffs. And honestly, if the MSL Ro16 games are any indication, Calm and Kal are still fully capable of playing winning games, and hero is still a solid player. SKT may have had it easy with demolishing noob teams like CJ and Fox, but STX is going to destroy them.

Roffles: Once a failure, always a failure. STX hasn't been relevant because their team is full of losers. Guys who can't step their game up when it counts. Because of their lack of experience due to past failures, they'll simply succumb to pressure when it counts. Their Ace, Kal, is pretty good at failing under pressure. Hwasin was good at it too. And you know how all the younguns look up to the old seasoned vet...

STX's ace this round is clearly Cuteangel. This is a problem for T1 because Bisu's PvT is bad and Cuteangel says that he is 6:2 vs Bisu and that beating Bisu is no big deal. In addition, Bisu and 2 Factory builds just don't get along. How can T1 overcome this massive weakness as it potentially means they are down 0-1 every game?

Carnivorous Sheep: They simply won't. SKT will keep fielding Bisu in the hopes that he'll proxy Gate or something, but Cuteangel will see through those pathetic attempts and continue to drink Bisu fanboys' tears in lieu of Pocari sweat. How does it feel knowing you support a player who has been irrelevant for years Roffles? Why do you insist on supporting terribad players?

Roffles: Cuteangel's a pile of garbage. You know your team is terrible when your best player is Cuteangel. That being said, I highly doubt STX's coach will be smart enough to successfully snipe Bisu. And even if he does get the desired matchup, Cuteangel's already used his playoff magic a few years ago vs. Jaedong. Fluke wins don't repeat themselves in playoffs.

Often regarded as the poor man's Jaedong vs Flash, Calm vs Fantasy games make everyone face palm while being very cringe inducing. For example, when they last met on Match Point, Calm showed that he was the real "Minesweeper Zerg" as he spent a whole game running into mines repeatedly. Plus, we could potentially even more of this "oh dear god why are they ever allowed to play each other" in MSL. Thoughts on what to expect from these two should they meet?

Carnivorous Sheep: Spending his entire time preparing for (and then losing) TvTs to Skyhigh has obviously traumatized fantasy. He'll pull out a build similar to the one he used against Hydra, and then die just as badly as he did then. But he can always pad his vZ stats by having Hyuk throw games, so all is well for fantasy as he goes down in an inglorious blaze.

Roffles: Calm's play as of late has been reeking of smelly cheese. His wins as of late have all been either from ZvZ or from doing stupid shit like hydra busting in ZvP. Skilless noob has no confidence in his play. But back on topic, Fantasy's shown that he can adeptly handle skilless noobs (see Effort) who try to win in the early game because they have no confidence in their late game skills. Should they meet, Fantasy would 100% wreck Calm cause he sucks. Plus, if Clam shows up, then lol.

The real hero for T1 these playoffs has been Best. Without him, they probably wouldn't even have made it past CJ, let alone Wemade. How can STX hope to overcome this macro machine?

Carnivorous Sheep: Best may be sort of good at spamming units and then 1a2a3aing, but his PvP and PvZ remains a tragedy. If he meets either Calm who'll mindgame him with some epic all-in build (assuring more delicious fanboy rage), hero who'll A-move him to death like he did Bisu, or Shuttle PvP monster who has even better macro, Best will just shed a silent tear before descending into a downward spiral of drugs and alcohol in an attempt to hide his shame.

Roffles: Plain and simple, put a zerg up against him that's somewhat competent and he'll most likely lose. Plus, I don't get why players insist on playing macro games with this guy. Everytime they do, they just get painfully wrecked. Mind and Midas had the right idea, but Best is just too good for stupid antics like that in TvP.

With the removal of Hwasin, STX's Terran depth plumeted drastically. This means that STX can't exploit T1 Zerg's lolbad ZvT. Can we expect to see Last, Bogus, and Notice step it up for the playoffs or will Shuttle be forced to pick up the slack?

Carnivorous Sheep: First and foremost, we have Terran bonjwa Cuteangel to lead the Terran line. That said, Bogus is probably our best bet, and he can just turtle a SKT zerg until he goes insane.

Roffles: STX has a terran line? Never heard of em, and with good reason too. They're just your typical trash no namers who get sent out as fodder because they have no other competent players.

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The map we've all been waiting for.


Despite the fact that this will be like watching two cripples fight, there is a reason to still watch this. The return of everyone's favorite map, Outsider, is sure to lead to some amazing and exciting games. How much have you guys missed this map?

Carnivorous Sheep: Outsider is FTW.

And STX is like crippled cause of an injury (attained honorably in battle obviously, no shame), which can heal. SKT is like mentally crippled, something that will never leave them. It's one of those "I may be drunk, but in the morning I'll be sober, but you'll still be ugly" kind of things.

Roffles: Only crippled team I see is STX. Ever since Hwasin left, they've been in shambles. SKT on the other hand doesn't have scumbags, cause their players know better. Oh, Outsider's a fun map, pretty decent zerg map that leads to innovative play. Since STX doesn't have any good terrans, I expect an SKT zerg to play and win against STX's shitty protoss/zerg line.

Now for some words for each other, anything that you two want to say? Perhaps a bet of some sort should your favorite team lose? I hear everyone misses VWolf and no one would mind seeing him post again.

Carnivorous Sheep: VWolf is eaten, ok?

That said, just randomly ban some SKT fans imo. There's so many of them and they all say the same things, I doubt they'll be missed. Banning fake SKT fans who sport Oz icons also works, not like we need them.

Roffles: Ever since the start of Round 5, STX has been complete shit. Hell, they even stooped down to bribing other teams to win for them cause they're too terrible to win their own games. That's how fucking bad they are. I'll gladly make a bet, but I'm afraid CSheep's too scared to accept cause he knows his team sucks. The guy drives the largest Dodge Ram I've ever seen.

On a more personal note, I know that you two have been planning to do a bo9 grudgematch. Current status on that? Also, how is that dancing going, Roffles?

Carnivorous Sheep: It will happen the moment Roffles dances. Give the people what they want Roffles! Stop dodging lil' SCV!

Roffles: Thanks to Shuttle failing (pretty normal really), CSheep has no choice but to grudgematch vs me. Ima have to give him a handicap or two to make it close really. The guy's like bronze level at SC2, which is equivalent to keyboard rank in BW. However, that'll have to wait until after I dance, which I have planned for the next couple of weeks. I've set plans for it to come out on post 9999.

Thanks for your time~ Any last words to say before ending this interview?

Carnivorous Sheep: SKT bad, KT bad, STX Proleague Champs.

Roffles: To all you delusional STX fans out there, why the hell do you even root for this shitty team? Your team has no terrans, no competent zergs, and a protoss who fails when he succumbs to pressure. Why do you even bother rooting for these losers? Do you like being heartbroken? Do you like witnessing failure? I'd jump ship if I were you, cause SKT's gonna pummel STX into oblivion, two nights in a row.


As TL security hustles the two fanboys out of the building before they start smacking each other upside the head with the fire extinguishers, it's time for you to pick your side in the upcoming battle, the last stepping stone before the ultimate stage: the Grand Final against KT Rolster.


This Proleague update was brought to you by Team Liquid's PL 2009-10 coverage team - heyoka, pangshai, harem, snowdrift86, Mystlord, IntoTheWow, and special guests flamewheel and Kwark. Many thanks to keit as usual for the stellar graphics!
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
July 31 2010 02:19 GMT
#2
I'd just like to take this opportunity to say...

S
K
T

Sorry CSheep, we're gonna own you ezpz.
AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
Felby
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway81 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 02:25:39
July 31 2010 02:25 GMT
#3
thats probably the awesomest aladdin bunkie ive ever seen

and SKT FIGHTING
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 02:27:03
July 31 2010 02:26 GMT
#4
Reading Roffles/Carn Sheep's opinion on Outsider and Hwasin being brought up reminded me of STX Masters Finals! S1: Hwasin v Hyuk, hahaha.

Great article though.
SKT1 Fighting!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
July 31 2010 02:29 GMT
#5
Just for the record, I'd like to make it clear that my interview was tampered with.


Roffles
And SKT is like crippled cause of an injury (attained honorably in battle obviously, no shame), which can heal. STX is like mentally crippled, something that will never leave them. It's one of those "I may be drunk, but in the morning I'll be sober, but you'll still be ugly" kind of things.

Shoudl actually be:

CSheep:
And STX is like crippled cause of an injury (attained honorably in battle obviously, no shame), which can heal. SKT is like mentally crippled, something that will never leave them. It's one of those "I may be drunk, but in the morning I'll be sober, but you'll still be ugly" kind of things.

Pathetic SKT fanboys have to resort to such lowly tactics to disguise the deficiencies of their peon team.
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 02:31:27
July 31 2010 02:30 GMT
#6
SKT1 easy.

Love the front page picture lol, and great write-up
Roro is going on my team next fantasy PL
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Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
July 31 2010 02:34 GMT
#7
Pure versus Bisu from day 1, was extreme, but it went a bridge too far in the late game.

I'm still really torn who I'm cheering for tonight, I'm a bit of SKT1 fan, but STX are the underdogs, and between them and KT they are the only ones that can stop SKT from taking the crown again.

Thank you for the great writeup guys, I really love the massive proleague updates, they ooze hard work and passion.

SSKTTX1 Hwaiting!
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GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
July 31 2010 02:34 GMT
#8
CSheep and Roffles are so violent
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 02:38:17
July 31 2010 02:37 GMT
#9
The misattribution has been corrected.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 31 2010 02:38 GMT
#10
If STX vs SKT produces games on the level of shittiness that was WeMade vs SKT, I will not be writing about them.

Instead I'll be looking for pictures of kittens.
snowdrift you rascal.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
July 31 2010 02:40 GMT
#11
On July 31 2010 11:38 flamewheel wrote:
If STX vs SKT produces games on the level of shittiness that was WeMade vs SKT, I will not be writing about them.

Instead I'll be looking for pictures of kittens.
snowdrift you rascal.


STX 4-0 x2 will be great games, don't worry.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9719 Posts
July 31 2010 02:42 GMT
#12
i cant think of anyone on stx who can manage to give us a good game. oh well.
boomer hands
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
July 31 2010 02:44 GMT
#13
Tension, tension..... I really don't care who wins as long as Bisu wins all his games lol. That being said I would go with SKT to win so that Bisu can have more opportunities to play in the finals.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
July 31 2010 02:45 GMT
#14
HYPE!

now who's making that LR...
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
July 31 2010 02:46 GMT
#15
That was a hilarious interview. All of Roffles responses were pure golden comedy. I was laughing while reading the whole thing.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 31 2010 02:48 GMT
#16
On July 31 2010 11:45 hyst.eric.al wrote:
HYPE!

now who's making that LR...

No MSPaint for you tonight!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
July 31 2010 02:48 GMT
#17
yea baby lets sheeet on stx~
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
July 31 2010 02:49 GMT
#18
I think WeMade did show on Day 2 that we can beat SKT or any team if we bring our A game. Hell, Baby and Mind played like complete ass, throwing away great chances, and we still brought it to ace. Still, this was our best chance and it's sad that so many players just crumbled under pressure.
darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
July 31 2010 02:49 GMT
#19
Since I had no initial preference, the way I decided who to root for depended on the group of fanboys I would love to see crushed more if their team was to lose. I've always disliked SKT1 and have been fairly appreciative towards STX, but CSheep's blind faith in a team that is sucking worse than ever is making me lean towards SKT. However, here is to STX in proving me wrong . Either way, this is a win-win situation for me.

Roffles, why you gotta hate on Effort man? =(
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
July 31 2010 02:49 GMT
#20
I think I'm rooting for STX but if they win and KT roflstomps them in the finals I'll be pissed.
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